Mark Warner Holidays and Ocean Club Resorts had a duty of care towards their guests.

[Mr Moderator]

I don't suppose we could possibly keep On Topic, could we?

They had better and welcome to the team Eleanor.  Any backchat just let me know.

[Eleanor]

Thank You.  Everyone, that is.

[Mr Moderator]

This is neither the place nor the time to discuss last nights disgraceful shananagans and as for you David, eliciting sympathy on the basis of a false story about your wife was beneath contempt.  Have you heard the story of the boy who cried wolf?

[Mr Gray]

I feel MW were  negligent in not warning their guests

[stephen25000]

I feel MW were  negligent in not warning their guests

Pay attention davel.......................


1.Mark Warner provided a free evening creche -

the McCanns chose not to use it.

2.Mark Warner provided a babysitting service by fully qualified staff at a nominal fee -

 the McCann's chose not to use it

3.Mark Warner provided a takeaway service from the tapas restaurant -

 the McCann's chose not to use it.

4.Mark warner provided self-catering accomodation for those preferring to stay home and cater for themselves -

the McCann's chose not to use it.

5.Mark Warner provided accommodation which had locks to all doors and windows -

 the McCann's chose to leave a door unlocked and never checked the windows.

6.Mark Warner did not provide a 'listening service' as they felt the layout of the resort made this an unsafe and unsuitable option -

 the McCann's not only decided to operate their own version, they also asked for a discount because of it.

7.The McCann's blamed Mark Warner for supposedly leaving a book containing their request for a table every night to facilitate the neglect of their children at a reception desk where it might be read by others -

yet freely informed complete strangers that they had left their children home alone while they were out dining.

8.The McCann supporters say Mark Warner should have warned them about attacks on other children -

 yet most of these attacks were not reported at the time and were not in PdL. Regardless, the McCanns had decided to operate their own, unsafe listening system before they even left the UK and without ascertaining whether the area was safe, or knowing the location of their accommodation.

9.Mark Warner only made one mistake - failing to immediately alert social services when they became aware of what the McCanns were doing. However, they could hardly be expected to know the McCanns were leaving a door open. They provided the McCanns and their hangers-on with thousands of pounds of free accommodation and thousands of pounds of free childcare. They engaged expert help for them and immediately flew out counsellors to work with the couple. '

[slartibartfast]

I feel MW were  negligent in not warning their guests

I can just see the brochure...

Come to the xyz hotel, Westminster, enjoy the restaurant, pool, fitness centre and other amenities.

Local Crime

Homicide   4
Rape   202
Other Sexual offences 412
Robbery (Person)   2,308
Robbery (Business)   84
Burglary Residential   1,426
Burglary Non-Residential   2,344
Gun Crime   56
Motor Vehicle Crime   3,527
Domestic Crime   1,297

[Mr Gray]

Pay attention davel.......................


1.Mark Warner provided a free evening creche -

the McCanns chose not to use it.

2.Mark Warner provided a babysitting service by fully qualified staff at a nominal fee -

 the McCann's chose not to use it

3.Mark Warner provided a takeaway service from the tapas restaurant -

 the McCann's chose not to use it.

4.Mark warner provided self-catering accomodation for those preferring to stay home and cater for themselves -

the McCann's chose not to use it.

5.Mark Warner provided accommodation which had locks to all doors and windows -

 the McCann's chose to leave a door unlocked and never checked the windows.

6.Mark Warner did not provide a 'listening service' as they felt the layout of the resort made this an unsafe and unsuitable option -

 the McCann's not only decided to operate their own version, they also asked for a discount because of it.

7.The McCann's blamed Mark Warner for supposedly leaving a book containing their request for a table every night to facilitate the neglect of their children at a reception desk where it might be read by others -

yet freely informed complete strangers that they had left their children home alone while they were out dining.

8.The McCann supporters say Mark Warner should have warned them about attacks on other children -

 yet most of these attacks were not reported at the time and were not in PdL. Regardless, the McCanns had decided to operate their own, unsafe listening system before they even left the UK and without ascertaining whether the area was safe, or knowing the location of their accommodation.

9.Mark Warner only made one mistake - failing to immediately alert social services when they became aware of what the McCanns were doing. However, they could hardly be expected to know the McCanns were leaving a door open. They provided the McCanns and their hangers-on with thousands of pounds of free accommodation and thousands of pounds of free childcare. They engaged expert help for them and immediately flew out counsellors to work with the couple. '

sorry for not replying sooner..been out with the wife and children....yes Mw would have explained all the things on offer but they forgot to tell the mccanns about the services of the local burglars...I dint expect or care if you agree with me...I think MW were negligent

[stephen25000]

sorry for not replying sooner..been out with the wife and children....yes Mw would have explained all the things on offer but they forgot to tell the mccanns about the services of the local burglars...I dint expect or care if you agree with me...I think MW were negligent

The fundamental mistakes were made by the mccanns.

They were in a foreign country and did not have one iota of common sense.

[pegasus]

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and:
!0. MW allowed children of all ages to eat at the Millennium and Tapas restaurants with their parents.
 

[jassi]

What time of evening did the Tapas start serving meals?

[stephen25000]

and:
!0. MW allowed children of all ages to eat at the Millennium and Tapas restaurants with their parents.

Thanks for the addition Pegasus.

[pegasus]

Thanks for the addition Pegasus.

Yes and there was no minimum age - the Tapas restuarant even provided highchairs in the evenings so that children too young to be sat on normal chairs could eat there - kids as young as 11months ate evening meal there.

[stephen25000]

Yes and there was no minimum age - the Tapas restuarant even had highchairs available in the evenings so that children too young to be sat on normal chairs could eat there.

That, is from my experience how European families come together for meals.

The children aren't trundled off to bed and ignored.

[Mr Gray]

That, is from my experience how European families come together for meals.

The children aren't trundled off to bed and ignored.

young children ages 2 and 3 can get totally bored in restaurants

[pegasus]

That, is from my experience how European families come together for meals.
The children aren't trundled off to bed and ignored.

Yes, that is the norm for european families (whether english or portuguese).