Author Topic: Kate McCann admits in her book that private criminal investigations in Portugal were illegal.  (Read 128301 times)

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Alfred R Jones

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That is the 'thinking' which I find totally inexplicable.


You know that the Police have decided you are guilty.

So you ignore your lawyer and do everything you can to aid and abet your own arrest - even though you know that you are innocent and that the real perpetrator is still free.

What sane person would do that?   It makes no sense.
It doesn't make sense, but that doesn't matter to those whose favourite pastime is judging the McCanns and finding them wanting in every aspect.

Offline Angelo222

round and round we go, making the same accusations.  I could argue again (for the thousandth time that the McCanns DID co-operate up until the point where it became clear the PJ were only interested in resolving the case by prosecuting the McCanns for hiding their child's body) but what would be the point, really?  You're never going to have it are you?  You're always going to claim that if it were you in that position you would have fully co-operated with a police force whose only interest was throwing you in the slammer!

You post some crap these days Alfred. It is a detectives job to explore all options but the McCanns thought they were above all that and decided to take the anti option.  No cooperation...  ...hire their own people   ...do their own thing.

Let's face it, even the gullible British public can see that now!!
« Last Edit: January 27, 2016, 02:38:05 AM by John »
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Alfred R Jones

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You post some crap these days Alfred. It is a detectives job to explore all options but the McCanns thought they were above all that and decided to take the anti option.  No cooperation...
Thanks for your critique of my posts, always nice to have a moderator insult one's posts. 

The detectives may well have explored all options but by the time they had made the McCanns arguidos they had discarded all options but one.  Now, of course we know you would have been fully co-operative in such a situation, which may have resulted in you being put on remand for a year or two, pending a court case which may have dragged on for another year or two, only for your innocence to have been "finally proved".  Weirdly the McCanns chose not to go down that route and decided to channel their resources into pursuing their child's abductor and to hell with the law that stood between them and taking such action.  Weirdly too, I beleive they made the right choice.  Apologies in advance for posting "some crap" again, but that happens to be my view.

Offline Angelo222

Thanks for your critique of my posts, always nice to have a moderator insult one's posts. 

The detectives may well have explored all options but by the time they had made the McCanns arguidos they had discarded all options but one.  Now, of course we know you would have been fully co-operative in such a situation, which may have resulted in you being put on remand for a year or two, pending a court case which may have dragged on for another year or two, only for your innocence to have been "finally proved".  Weirdly the McCanns chose not to go down that route and decided to channel their resources into pursuing their child's abductor and to hell with the law that stood between them and taking such action.  Weirdly too, I beleive they made the right choice.  Apologies in advance for posting "some crap" again, but that happens to be my view.

Believe it or not they made the WRONG choice.  Seven years on Madeleine is still lost regardless of what you perceive to be the right choice.

One man's crap is another mans fantasy.
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Offline Benice

You post some crap these days Alfred. It is a detectives job to explore all options but the McCanns thought they were above all that and decided to take the anti option.  No cooperation...

Let's face it, even the gullible British public can see that now!!

Apart from Kate taking her lawyer's advice and not answering questions on one occasion - what other instances are there when they refused to co-operate?    You make it sound as if this was something which happened from day one.   

IIRC Kate was at the police station for around 11 hrs the day before  - being interrogated by th PJ.      Can you explain why anyone would perceive that to be a clear case of her  'not co-operating'  IYO?




The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Alfred R Jones

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Believe it or not they made the WRONG choice.  Seven years on Madeleine is still lost regardless of what you perceive to be the right choice.

One man's crap is another mans fantasy.
So your opinion is right and mine wrong is it?  Maybe, but only in your opinion! 

Can you please tell me how the Portuguese police would have found Madeleine if Kate HAD answered questions like "Did you manage to sleep?" and "Is it true you called Sky News?" or if the McCanns and their friends had taken part in a reconstruction? 

Offline Carana

In this country they call it 'attempting to pervert the course of justice', don't know the Portuguese equivalent but I am sure Montclair or Luz will help you out.

I have no problem that 'attempting to pervert the course of justice' would be an offence. What did the PIs actually do that would have constituted such an offence?

Offline sadie

It is illegal to undertake private investigations in a criminal case while official investigations are ongoing. The McCanns knew this but went ahead anyway.  What does that tell us about them?
It tells us that they were desperate to find Madeleine.  They knew that no one was searching for her any more.  She was being ignored.   Left to what ever fate beheld her.



YOU have already made it plain that you would have done YOUR OWN search


And you have vociferously criticized The Mccanns for not giving up their life in the UK to tramp around PT searching.



Let's have some consistency Angelo.... instead of the constant criticism of everything the Mccanns did and do.

What you are doing is duplicitous.

Offline slartibartfast

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That is the 'thinking' which I find totally inexplicable.


You know that the Police have decided you are guilty.

So you ignore your lawyer and do everything you can to aid and abet your own arrest - even though you know that you are innocent and that the real perpetrator is still free.

What sane person would do that?   It makes no sense.

It would have brought an incredible amount of publicity to the case and hence aided the search for Madeleine....
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Alfred R Jones

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It would have brought an incredible amount of publicity to the case and hence aided the search for Madeleine....
What would have brought an incredible amount of publicity to the case that the McCanns didn't do but should have?
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Offline slartibartfast

What would have brought an incredible amount of publicity to the case that the McCanns didn't do but should have?

Read the thread.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Read the thread.

could be difficult as three days of posts have been deleted

Offline Mr Moderator

could be difficult as three days of posts have been deleted

Reassigned, not deleted.  Off topic posts...   8(0(*
« Last Edit: January 27, 2016, 02:38:31 AM by John »

Alfred R Jones

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Read the thread.
I've read it and the answer is not clear, so to save further ado why not just tell us?

Offline John

In her book called Madeleine, Kate McCann admits that the employing of private investigators to undertake investigations in Portugal was 'technically illegal'.   Given that this renders the McCanns technically criminal by their own admission are they really so different from Amaral?


From Madeleine.

"Our first investigators, the Spanish company Método 3, began working for us in October. With private investigations technicaly ilegal in Portugal, we felt the closest we could get would be a firm from somewhere on the Iberian Peninsula, which would have the advantage of familiarity with local systems, culture and geography and the best network of contacts in the region."

Technically illegal?  You couldn't make it up if you tried.   @)(++(*
« Last Edit: January 27, 2016, 02:38:38 AM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.