Kate McCann admits in her book that private criminal investigations in Portugal were illegal.

[ferryman]

What exactly does Portuguese law have to say about private investigations and official police enquiry?

I know Carana says she's not come across anything in the penal code that prohibits private investigations run in parallel with police ones into the same matter.

But it just seems, to me, intuitively right that the national police force of any country wouldn't like it ...

[Mr Gray]

What exactly does Portuguese law have to say about private investigations and official police enquiry?

I know Carana says she's not come across anything in the penal code that prohibits private investigations run in parallel with police ones into the same matter.

But it just seems, to me, intuitively right that the national police force of any country wouldn't like it ...

From what I can see....there are no criminal PIs in portugal...this is what is illegal..thats why the mccanns had to look to spain

[Eleanor]

From what I can see....there are no criminal PIs in portugal...this is what is illegal..thats why the mccanns had to look to spain

Interesting.  What is a Criminal Private Investigator?   I thought all PIs would investigate anything.

Obviously, no Police Force would want PIs getting in the way.  But six months had passed, and Amaral had been sacked by then.  And The McCanns were Arguidos.  Had they no right to try to find out what happened to their daughter when no one else was even remotely interested?

[stephen25000]

Interesting.  What is a Criminal Private Investigator?   I thought all PIs would investigate anything.

Obviously, no Police Force would want PIs getting in the way.  But six months had passed, and Amaral had been sacked by then.  And The McCanns were Arguidos.  Had they no right to try to find out what happened to their daughter when no one else was even remotely interested?

I'm sorry but that makes no sense.

Merely because the mccanns were made arguido and arguida repsectively, does not mean the PJ weren't interested in finding what happened to Madeleine.

[Eleanor]

I'm sorry but that makes no sense.

Merely because the mccanns were made arguido and arguida repsectively, does not mean the PJ weren't interested in finding what happened to Madeleine.

Well that was polite.  Thank you, Stephen.

The PJ were not looking anywhere else other than at The McCanns at the time  Why else make them Arguidos?

[stephen25000]

Well that was polite.  Thank you, Stephen.

The PJ were not looking anywhere else other than at The McCanns at the time  Why else make them Arguidos?

They were still trying to solve the mystery of madeleine's disappearance.

[Eleanor]

They were still trying to solve the mystery of madeleine's disappearance.

Still trying to pin it on Madeleine's parents, don't you mean?

Or is that why this "Illegal" nonsense suddenly appeared?

Can't have the suspects trying to clear their own names.

[slartibartfast]

Well that was polite.  Thank you, Stephen.

The PJ were not looking anywhere else other than at The McCanns at the time  Why else make them Arguidos?

They needed to make them Arguidos so that they could ask them the difficult questions. It doesn't mean they aren't investigating other leads. If course Arguido status does seem to get blown out of all proportion, it is very similar to being questioned under caution in the UK.

[Mr Gray]

I think the mccanns upset amaral when they refused to co operate...or confess...as amaral likes to call it

[slartibartfast]

I think the mccanns upset amaral when they refused to co operate...or confess...as amaral likes to call it

I think if you had said "the McCanns increased Amaral's suspicions when they refused to cooperate." Then you would have had fairly widespread agreement.

[Mr Gray]

I think if you had said "the McCanns increased Amaral's suspicions when they refused to cooperate." Then you would have had fairly widespread agreement.

I said what I intended to say..

[Alice Purjorick]

A "crime" has been committed in Portugal. There are no investigative agencies in Portugal suitable to hire so one from a neighbouring country is hired. What is the rationale behind the thinking that the agency hired will not carry out investigations at the location of the "crime". It would be bizarre not to.
Which party knew what and did what is a jolly jape of a guessing game my dears but logic says the crime scene would have been investigated by the PI's other wise as my uncouth partner would say "they were merely p**s**g in the wind".

[Alfred R Jones]

A "crime" has been committed in Portugal. There are no investigative agencies in Portugal suitable to hire so one from a neighbouring country is hired. What is the rationale behind the thinking that the agency hired will not carry out investigations at the location of the "crime". It would be bizarre not to.
Which party knew what and did what is a jolly jape of a guessing game my dears but logic says the crime scene would have been investigated by the PI's other wise as my uncouth partner would say "they were merely p**s**g in the wind".

Did The McCanns PIs investigate the crime scene?  What form did their investigations take?  Who, at the crime scene did they interrogate?  Sincere questions, to which I don't know the answers, perhaps you do.

[Miss Taken Identity]

quote" amaral has told us what the pj thought..it was the parents...they were not looking anywhere else"unquote

I don't recall the PJ or Amaral saying "it was the parents" What they were concerned about was the confusion of stories from the tapas group.


It is quite clear that the PJ and Amaral suspected that some kind of accident happened and did wonder if the parents hid the body.  The dogs idea was that of the UK police.

The word accident could imply anything; abduction by burglars, Maddie leaving the building to look for her parents and going missing, falling from  the sofa banging her head, taking prescription drugs thinking they were sweets... No one in Portugal accused the parents of murdering their daughter.

Team McCann knew the PI's were breaking the law by investigating a criminal investigation. oh yes Technically... Gerry loves that word. Technically it was like sitting in your back garden...hmmm yuhu

[ferryman]

quote" amaral has told us what the pj thought..it was the parents...they were not looking anywhere else"unquote

I don't recall the PJ or Amaral saying "it was the parents" What they were concerned about was the confusion of stories from the tapas group.


It is quite clear that the PJ and Amaral suspected that some kind of accident happened and did wonder if the parents hid the body.  The dogs idea was that of the UK police.

The word accident could imply anything; abduction by burglars, Maddie leaving the building to look for her parents and going missing, falling from  the sofa banging her head, taking prescription drugs thinking they were sweets... No one in Portugal accused the parents of murdering their daughter.

Team McCann knew the PI's were breaking the law by investigating a criminal investigation. oh yes Technically... Gerry loves that word. Technically it was like sitting in your back garden...hmmm yuhu

The PJ suspected murder!