Kate McCann admits in her book that private criminal investigations in Portugal were illegal.

[slartibartfast]

The PJ suspected murder!

Cite?

[Angelo222]

Where does it say in that passage that Metodo 3 actually investigated in Portugal?  Or that the McCanns condoned such investigations?

Metodo 3's efforts in Portugal are recorded for all to see. I suggest you read the thread dedicated to them.

[faithlilly]

Did The McCanns PIs investigate the crime scene?  What form did their investigations take?  Who, at the crime scene did they interrogate?  Sincere questions, to which I don't know the answers, perhaps you do.

Under judicial secrecy any witness who had given a statement would be breaking the law by repeating what they had told the police to the private investigators, resulting, we are told by Gerry, in a possible jail sentence of 2 years. Therefore it seems if Metido3 were not 'technically' breaking the law they were certainly coercing witnesses to.

[Angelo222]

Did The McCanns PIs investigate the crime scene?  What form did their investigations take?  Who, at the crime scene did they interrogate?  Sincere questions, to which I don't know the answers, perhaps you do.

Crime? What crime?? 8-)(--)

For the benefit of doubt me dears there is no proof that any crime ever occurred.  It is still an unfortunate statistic that the vast majority of child abductions and child murders involve a family member.

[ferryman]

Cite?

Mark Harrison's terms of reference, handed to him by the PJ:

This report considers solely the possibility that Madeleine McCann has been murdered and her body is concealed within the areas previously searched by Police in Zone 1 around Praia Da Luz. Other scenarios or possibilities may on request be considered and be subject of a further report.

(Mark Harrison)

[Mr Gray]

Crime? What crime?? 8-)(--)

For the benefit of doubt me dears there is no proof that any crime ever occurred.

Don't you think the fact that maddie is missing proves  a crime took place....can you give me a scenario which does not include a crime

[ferryman]

Crime? What crime?? 8-)(--)

For the benefit of doubt me dears there is no proof that any crime ever occurred.  It is still an unfortunate statistic that the vast majority of child abductions and child murders involve a family member.

What?

Madeleine's disappearance is proof of a crime.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Mr Amaral has NEVER said or written the parents murdered their daughter- Team McCann's victim sob story to gain money from vulnerable people.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Lol @ Kate's book...

She admits to telling a lie but, her supporters claim this was an ok nice kind of lie- all cutsie you know, she also said "Technically illegal activities" and her supporters say no .no it's not what you think...

Saint Kate. Blessed personally by the pope!

[ferryman]

Was it Brietta or Victoria a while back who produced from the files proof that the McCanns' private investigators shared with the PJ what they had found?

Odd, indeed, if what they did was illegal ...

[faithlilly]

Was it Brietta or Victoria a while back who produced from the files proof that the McCanns' private investigators shared with the PJ what they had found?

Odd, indeed, if what they did was illegal ...

The information passed to the PJ was from  a Spanish based helpline I believe, so technically not illegal.

It was their investigations on Portuguese soil that would concern the PJ.

[Alfred R Jones]

Crime? What crime?? 8-)(--)

For the benefit of doubt me dears there is no proof that any crime ever occurred.  It is still an unfortunate statistic that the vast majority of child abductions and child murders involve a family member.

So Madeleine's disappearance is not as a result of any criminal act then?  You must be of the"woke and wandered into a hole" persuasion then...

[John]

The Portuguese Code of Practice came in on 10 August 2007 but since Método 3 and Oakley were both based outside of Portugal neither complied with it.  Back in 2007 the Portuguese police were the only entity who could legally investigate crime since private investigators were not recognised by the judicial authorities. 

Kate McCann would have taken advice before writing in her book that private criminal investigations were technically illegal in Portugal thus why they employed one who was based in Spain.  She failed to expand on that statement however since to do so would have opened a much larger can of worms.

As stated previously, the illegality is not set by Statute under the Portuguese Penal Code but arises where there is interference in the official investigation. We know that witnesses were harangued and harassed by agents acting on behalf of the McCanns and that is where the damage was done.  They had in effect perverted the course of justice.

From Madeleine by Kate McCann

"Our first investigators, the Spanish company Método 3, began working for us in October. With private investigations technicaly ilegal in Portugal, we felt the closest we could get would be a firm from somewhere on the Iberian Peninsula, which would have the advantage of familiarity with local systems, culture and geography and the best network of contacts in the region."

Closest we could get?  What Kate McCann fails to recognise is that it is irrelevant where the pi's are based since any interference in an official investigation is tantamount to illegal activity under the Portuguese judicial system.  In the event however the point is academic since Método 3 did not restrict their activities to beyond Portugal's borders but undertook work paid for by the Madeleine Fund inside Portugal in direct opposition to the Portuguese Police.

Certainly worth repeating.  Método 3 did operate in Portugal, they even met with the Portuguese detectives and possibly even Amaral himself to discuss the case.  Little did they know then what M3's real agenda was.

[John]

Added

Antonio Martins, President of the National Association of Portuguese Judges, told the newspaper 24 Horas: "It is still up to the state to carry out criminal investigation. That kind of activity has no legal standing.

"Anything that results from private investigation has no substance."

Mr Martins said the private detectives and even the McCanns themselves could be accused of "obstruction of justice".


and...

Carlos Anjos, the head of Portugal's criminal police federation, added: "This can only be another diversion tactic from the McCanns. It is nothing but folklore.

"Portugal does not have legislation in this area. Private detectives who intervene in criminal cases cannot exist.

"The law only tolerates private detectives who gather information and only about matters of the private lives of certain people like extramarital relationships."

A separate police source warned that the involvement of investigators may not only be illegal but could have a detrimental effect on the inquiry.

The high ranking official told newspaper Correio da Manha: "If private investigators come here they will be running a serious risk of being arrested."

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1564121/Madeleine-McCann-police-fury-over-private-hunt.html


So there we had it from Antonio Martins, President of the National Association of Portuguese Judges and Carlos Anjos, the head of Portugal's criminal police federation, does anyone believe they are better placed to quote Portuguese Law?

And this too which one could say was from the horses mouth.

[Mr Gray]

And this too which one could say was from the horses mouth.

this article has been posted several times...it talks of "could be illegal" and "may be illegal"...no where does it says..."is illegal"