The Lies of Jeremy Bamber

[abs]

To Sheila I think it would hace sounded VERY strange if Jeremy had asked her to pray with him. He was not religous, and of course she knew that!

Why would it make it seem that Sheila had shot her family by placing her in her parent´s bedroom? I don´t get that. I would think that if you were to stage somebody´s suicide, you would have them in their own room - or in her children´s (perhaps not room in there, I don´t know.) But her parent´s bedroom is still an odd choice to me . especially if he had to drag her in there.

[starryian]

To Sheila I think it would hace sounded VERY strange if Jeremy had asked her to pray with him. He was not religous, and of course she knew that!

Why would it make it seem that Sheila had shot her family by placing her in her parent´s bedroom? I don´t get that. I would think that if you were to stage somebody´s suicide, you would have them in their own room - or in her children´s (perhaps not room in there, I don´t know.) But her parent´s bedroom is still an odd choice to me . especially if he had to drag her in there.

I would think that it was very strange at all. Bamber could have literally told her anything at this point. He could have told her he had found religion and to pray with him - anything. Bamber is a very plausible, cunning liar and could have convinced a drowsy Sheila of anything he wanted. We must also remember that Sheila would have seen the body of June so it is plausible that the prayers were for her.
The suicide in the bedroom is another attempt by Bamber to make it clear who committed the murders. An overstatement just like so many of his actions that night and weeks later. Bamber obviously thought that if police find the body of Sheila in her room there may have been questions as to her complicity in the murders even though she may have been found with a rifle. To be found in the same room as a victim would have left police with a very powerful and damaging image.

[goatboy]

Regarding Bamber's psycopathy or lack of it, hasn't it been documented that before his trial the defence team arranged for an expert to analyse him to prove he was not a psycopath, only for said expert to instead come to the conclusion that Bamber was a textbook case?

[John]

Regarding Bamber's psycopathy or lack of it, hasn't it been documented that before his trial the defence team arranged for an expert to analyse him to prove he was not a psycopath, only for said expert to instead come to the conclusion that Bamber was a textbook case?

If there was such a Report I am quite sure the Defence would want to withhold it.  At the end of the day the follwoing seems to be all we have:

The defence lawyers remained bullish in Jeremy's presence, but in private they were mostly gloomy. A week before the trial opened the defence team held a case conference at Rivlin’s chambers and the meeting ended with Edmund Lawson hurrying away in search of some gin and three glasses. An eminent psychiatrist had just expressed his opinion that Jeremy exhibited several classic symptoms of a murdering psychopath.

DAVID SHAW'S "AN INNOCENT MAN"

[starryian]

Regarding Bamber's psychopathy or lack of it, hasn't it been documented that before his trial the defence team arranged for an expert to analyse him in the hope that his report would clearly state that jeremy Bamber was as normal as anyone else. However, the defence team were horrified when they read the report which actually stated that it was his opinion that Mr Bamber was undoubtedly a psychopath. He went on further to add 'if ever there was a psychopath, then Jeremy Bamber is it'
This was quoted in Roger Wilkes study of the case 'Blood Relations' The psychiatrist's report somehow became public after the trail.

[abs]

Regarding Bamber's psychopathy or lack of it, hasn't it been documented that before his trial the defence team arranged for an expert to analyse him in the hope that his report would clearly state that jeremy Bamber was as normal as anyone else. However, the defence team were horrified when they read the report which actually stated that it was his opinion that Mr Bamber was undoubtedly a psychopath. He went on further to add 'if ever there was a psychopath, then Jeremy Bamber is it'
This was quoted in Roger Wilkes study of the case 'Blood Relations' The psychiatrist's report somehow became public after the trail.

Do you know where this report may be reviewed?

[Andrea]

Yes, thats correct, Ian.

[starryian]

Regarding Bamber's psychopathy or lack of it, hasn't it been documented that before his trial the defence team arranged for an expert to analyse him in the hope that his report would clearly state that jeremy Bamber was as normal as anyone else. However, the defence team were horrified when they read the report which actually stated that it was his opinion that Mr Bamber was undoubtedly a psychopath. He went on further to add 'if ever there was a psychopath, then Jeremy Bamber is it'
This was quoted in Roger Wilkes study of the case 'Blood Relations' The psychiatrist's report somehow became public after the trail.

Do you know where this report may be reviewed?

I am not sure Abs, have a look in the references section of Roger Wilkes book (I haven't got a copy handy) it will tell you in there.

[John]

I wasn't quite sure where to put this post or what heading to put it under as we have seen so many similar over the years.  Anyway, here goes.

This is the first sentence taken from Jeremy's last update on his official website dated 31 May 2012.

Please excuse the bad grammar.   I quote...

"We have all been really busy since the CCRC closing my case and a lot of new evidence has come to light."


To be honest I haven't stopped laughing.   


http://jeremybamber.blogspot.co.uk/

[ActualMat]

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I remain positive now that the case is out of the hands of the CCRC, it is up to a judge to decide if the case should go to an appeal court based on the new evidence."


Er........what?

[starryian]

"
I remain positive now that the case is out of the hands of the CCRC, it is up to a judge to decide if the case should go to an appeal court based on the new evidence."


Er........what?

Exactly Mat. It is delusion time for the blue forum. It reminds me a little of the scene in Hitler's bunker at the end of the Second World War when the Russians had 300,000 men closing in on him on all sides. Hitler is convinced that some mysterious, non-existent army is going to come and save Berlin. "We are now fighting back on all fronts and victory will be ours" Hitler stated just as Red Army rockets were landing outside the bunker and T34 tanks we rampaging towards the Reichstag building. Just plain delusional thinking. The blue forum are now in the Twilight Zone bunker.   8-)(--)

[Angelo222]

"
I remain positive now that the case is out of the hands of the CCRC, it is up to a judge to decide if the case should go to an appeal court based on the new evidence."


Er........what?

Exactly Mat. It is delusion time for the blue forum. It reminds me a little of the scene in Hitler's bunker at the end of the Second World War when the Russians had 300,000 men closing in on him on all sides. Hitler is convinced that some mysterious, non-existent army is going to come and save Berlin. "We are now fighting back on all fronts and victory will be ours" Hitler stated just as Red Army rockets were landing outside the bunker and T34 tanks we rampaging towards the Reichstag building. Just plain delusional thinking. The blue forum are now in the Twilight Zone bunker.   8-)(--)

The thing I love about this forum is the diversity of opinions and the high level and quality of the serious discussions which can run alongside the frivolous and the more light hearted topics.  I see more and more people joining us for all sorts of reasons and long may it last.  I also think we have merely scraped the surface of the whole justice debate so there is lots more to do.  I for one look forward to doing my bit for justice and to helping those vulnerable victims whereever and whoever they may be.

This forum is quite unique in that it exposes the guilty as well as the innocent. A thoroughly good job all round.

[Dillon]

More rational and considered posts. Far more credible then the crude invective flowing around on the other place. I think we could perhaps offer Mr Teskowski some friendly advice to make his forum a closed one so that their inane behaviour is not exposed to public view. Then they could happily function as a " virtual family" congratulating each other, discussing the cost of vet bills, wine and other important issues without having to feel paranoid about this forum.   

[puglove]

More rational and considered posts. Far more credible then the crude invective flowing around on the other place. I think we could perhaps offer Mr Teskowski some friendly advice to make his forum a closed one so that their inane behaviour is not exposed to public view. Then they could happily function as a " virtual family" congratulating each other, discussing the cost of vet bills, wine and other important issues without having to feel paranoid about this forum.

It's certainly closed to me, Dillon!! I just posted "ho ho ho" the other night and got banned for life!!

[Dillon]

Congratulations !