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Offline faithlilly

Re: Social worker who attended the scene later told police she was suspicious.
« Reply #60 on: July 20, 2014, 10:22:34 PM »
Quote from: Brietta on July 20, 2014, 10:17:57 PM
How do we know what it is alleged Dr McCann told her?

It's recorded in Yvonne Martin's statement. Or is she a liar as well as unprofessional ?

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- She identified herself and presented her credentials and immediately began talking to the mother of the missing child as she was visibly upset with the situation.

- During the conversation the mother told her that she did not understand why a couple had abducted'
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Carana

Re: Social worker who attended the scene later told police she was suspicious.
« Reply #61 on: July 20, 2014, 10:30:13 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on July 20, 2014, 10:03:43 PM
And your thoughts on Kate telling her Madeleine had been abducted by a couple ?

By all accounts, Kate was still in a total panic and no one knew who this YM person was.

What did Kate actually say to her? Kate may have assumed that more than one person was involved for whatever reason.



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Offline faithlilly

Re: Social worker who attended the scene later told police she was suspicious.
« Reply #62 on: July 20, 2014, 10:31:59 PM »
Just a thought.

What are the chances of two witnesses who are unknown to each other, both giving statements which expressed concern over the same individual in a group of nine having inappropriate thoughts with regard to children ?
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Social worker who attended the scene later told police she was suspicious.
« Reply #63 on: July 20, 2014, 10:39:20 PM »
Quote from: Carana on July 20, 2014, 10:30:13 PM
By all accounts, Kate was still in a total panic and no one knew who this YM person was.

What did Kate actually say to her? Kate may have assumed that more than one person was involved for whatever reason.

I can't imagine that not knowing who someone is would make you say something that had no foundation in fact.

A couple is not how you would describe two or more abductors, you would say a couple of. A couple is much more specific.
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Carana

Re: Social worker who attended the scene later told police she was suspicious.
« Reply #64 on: July 20, 2014, 10:42:58 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on July 20, 2014, 10:31:59 PM
Just a thought.

What are the chances of two witnesses who are unknown to each other, both giving statements which expressed concern over the same individual in a group of nine having inappropriate thoughts with regard to children ?

How many people thought that they'd seen Gerry and or Kate at various locations where the PJ eventually established that they weren't?

None of these "thoughts" passed on to the police would normally have been in the public domain.
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Offline pegasus

Re: Social worker who attended the scene later told police she was suspicious.
« Reply #65 on: July 20, 2014, 10:43:09 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on July 20, 2014, 10:03:43 PM
And your thoughts on Kate telling her Madeleine had been abducted by a couple ?
There is an interesting passage in KM's book - about a couple - who had supposedly been checked out
(Source: "Madeleine" by K Mccann, page 114)

"I remember Gerry and me exchanging quizzical looks after the FLOs tried to explain how one couple had been ruled out of the enquiry. We asked them if they were comfortable with this decision, there was an awkward pause before they replied 'No, not really'.

I wonder if that is the same couple as in the suspicion which KM told YM?
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Offline Carana

Re: Social worker who attended the scene later told police she was suspicious.
« Reply #66 on: July 20, 2014, 10:46:03 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on July 20, 2014, 10:39:20 PM
I can't imagine that not knowing who someone is would make you say something that had no foundation in fact.

A couple is not how you would describe two or more abductors, you would say a couple of. A couple is much more specific.

What did she actually state in English?
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Offline pegasus

Re: Social worker who attended the scene later told police she was suspicious.
« Reply #67 on: July 20, 2014, 10:49:23 PM »
Quote from: Carana on July 20, 2014, 10:46:03 PM
What did she actually state in English?
YM statement 12 Jun 2007
"the mother told her that she did not understand why a couple had abducted her daughter."

YM statement 13 Jun 2007
"she found it strange that Kate told her that her daughter had been taken by a couple"

YM statement 14 Nov 2007
"Kate told her that the child had been taken by a couple"
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Social worker who attended the scene later told police she was suspicious.
« Reply #68 on: July 20, 2014, 10:50:43 PM »
Quote from: pegasus on July 20, 2014, 10:43:09 PM
There is an interesting passage in KM's book - about a couple - who had supposedly been checked out
(Source: "Madeleine" by K Mccann, page 114)

"I remember Gerry and me exchanging quizzical looks after the FLOs tried to explain how one couple had been ruled out of the enquiry. We asked them if they were comfortable with this decision, there was an awkward pause before they replied 'No, not really'.

I wonder if that is the same couple as in the suspicion which KM told YM?

I can't imagine Kate would have known about any people of interest at just after 9am on the 4th of May Pegasus.
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Brietta

Re: Social worker who attended the scene later told police she was suspicious.
« Reply #69 on: July 20, 2014, 10:53:23 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on July 20, 2014, 10:31:59 PM
Just a thought.

What are the chances of two witnesses who are unknown to each other, both giving statements which expressed concern over the same individual in a group of nine having inappropriate thoughts with regard to children ?

Just another thought ... in this instance, the type of person whose self importance appears to circumvent decency by causing alarm and even more upset at a time of immeasurable distress for the parents of a missing child ...

At this moment, the witness notices that the couple began to have doubts about her capacity and she immediately showed them her official documents and credentials issued by the British government to calm them down. http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/YVONNE-WARREN-MARTIN.htm
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"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline faithlilly

Re: Social worker who attended the scene later told police she was suspicious.
« Reply #70 on: July 20, 2014, 10:54:15 PM »
Quote from: pegasus on July 20, 2014, 10:49:23 PM
YM statement 12 June 2007
"During the conversation the mother told her that she did not understand why a couple had abducted her daughter."
.

If as Carana claimed, Kate meant a couple of people rather than a couple, why would she not understand that ?
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Social worker who attended the scene later told police she was suspicious.
« Reply #71 on: July 20, 2014, 11:00:30 PM »
Quote from: Brietta on July 20, 2014, 10:53:23 PM
Just another thought ... in this instance, the type of person whose self importance appears to circumvent decency by causing alarm and even more upset at a time of immeasurable distress for the parents of a missing child ...

At this moment, the witness notices that the couple began to have doubts about her capacity and she immediately showed them her official documents and credentials issued by the British government to calm them down. http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/YVONNE-WARREN-MARTIN.htm

Not sure what point you are trying to make Brietta.

Two professionals, unknown to each other, both make similar claims about one individual and his inappropriate behaviour with regard to children. Surely that is beyond coincidence ?
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline pegasus

Re: Social worker who attended the scene later told police she was suspicious.
« Reply #72 on: July 20, 2014, 11:05:57 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on July 20, 2014, 10:50:43 PM
I can't imagine Kate would have known about any people of interest at just after 9am on the 4th of May Pegasus.
I think it is possible this may be connected with a couple who (if a UK paper reported correctly) may have entered the apartment evening 2nd May in response to crying?
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Offline Brietta

Re: Social worker who attended the scene later told police she was suspicious.
« Reply #73 on: July 20, 2014, 11:07:10 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on July 20, 2014, 11:00:30 PM
Not sure what point you are trying to make Brietta.

Two professionals, unknown to each other, both make similar claims about one individual and his inappropriate behaviour with regard to children. Surely that is beyond coincidence ?

"She adds that, after having spoken to the McCann couple, she spoke to the resort manager, and after identifying herself, asked him whether there had been a break-in in the apartment where the child was, to which he replied no but that the door was open as were the window blinds, which, according to Kate, should have been closed but were found open."

WHAT ???  >@@(*&)
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"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Carana

Re: Social worker who attended the scene later told police she was suspicious.
« Reply #74 on: July 20, 2014, 11:13:41 PM »
Quote from: pegasus on July 20, 2014, 10:43:09 PM
There is an interesting passage in KM's book - about a couple - who had supposedly been checked out
(Source: "Madeleine" by K Mccann, page 114)

"I remember Gerry and me exchanging quizzical looks after the FLOs tried to explain how one couple had been ruled out of the enquiry. We asked them if they were comfortable with this decision, there was an awkward pause before they replied 'No, not really'.

I wonder if that is the same couple as in the suspicion which KM told YM?

I don't think so. Perhaps wrongly, but I'd assumed that that referred to the Polish couple.
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