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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #945 on: September 30, 2014, 02:03:21 PM »
Firstly as I have said already I have not written a review but from what I can see there are nearly as many good reviews as there is bad so why is the book still not selling ?

Secondly how could the broadsheets criticise Summers book without suggesting that his research was bad and his conclusions faulty ? A catch 22 for the broadsheets and best avoided altogether.

As to Kate's book still selling, that simply proves that the public are more interested in misery memoirs than re examinations of cold cases, nothing more.
The last time I looked the book had 2.5 stars, thanks to the efforts of the campaign against the book. I'm sure you'd agree that is hardly encouraging to the casual peruser of titles to buy.

Are you for real re: your second point??  Of course the papers could criticise the book for being poorly researched and badly written without writing anything libellous about the McCanns.  You really do believe that everyone in the world, including the media, secretly thinks the McCanns dunnit but are afraid to say so don't you?  Just how deluded are you?


Alfred R Jones

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #946 on: September 30, 2014, 02:10:34 PM »
What was found that pointed to the couple or friends' guilt?  Nothing.  So why wouldn't the authors say so?  Would you rather they say "although nothing was found to point at their guilt, we still think they dunnit, just because"?
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #947 on: October 01, 2014, 07:47:24 PM »
Another piece of slight of hand from our favourite authors when trying to explain why Gerry and Wilkins had not seen Tanner :

'It was already fairly dark- Tanner recalled the 'orangey' effect of the street lighting. The trio's memories were fuzzy on precisely where they had been standing or which way the had been standing as they chatted'

Nothing 'fuzzy' about Wilkins memory when giving his statement to the Leicestershire police on the 31st October 2007 

'He eventually made his way along Rua Dr Francisco toward the direction of Rua Dr Agostinho. At this time he was walking on the right side of the road passing the Tapas bar area to his left. He noticed the bad street lighting and although it was not completely dark there was enough light to see clearly. As he approached the corner of the McCanns apartment, he saw Gerry appear from the area of the gate. He crossed the road and engaged in general conversation with Gerry. At this time they were stood with Gerry's back to the building near to the gate and Jeremy facing him. Rua Dr Agostino was about 10-15 meters to his right and the pathway leading to the front of the apartment blocks about 5 meters to his left.
He was adamant that he did not see any one else in the area. When spoken to in reference to Jane Tanner walking by, he again stated that he saw no one. He also stated that he did not see or hear anyone to his right. He was aware of the recent picture in the papers re the person with a child wrapped in a blanket and in a males arms allegedly walking across the junction to his right but again stated that he did not see any one.'

Or indeed in the Tapas timeline handed to the PJ on the 10th May 2007.

'2115: JT leaves table, and sees GM talking with fellow resident ("Jez" Wilkins) outside the patio gate of 5A. The two were standing just up the hill from the gate towards Rua A. da Silva Road. She did not speak to GM as she passed. '

The question also has to be asked that if the lighting was so bad in the street that Wilkins couldn't see Tanner within two feet of him, as the author postulates, how could Tanner see so clearly the pattern on the child's pyjamas who was being carried many more feet away ?

So much for investigative churnalism eh !!

According to Summers and Swann  "....she[Jane Tanner] had seen a man cross the road just yards from the McCann's apartment. It had not yet been completely dark and she had been able to see him fairly well.". Chapter 2 toward the end.
Just quoting like.make of it what you will. Not that it's very important, DCI Redwood having "greased" Tannerman The Abductor about a year ago and all.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #948 on: October 03, 2014, 08:15:40 PM »
Oh god the tape has completed the loop and Alfred is banging on again about corruption and torturing for which those heathen Portugee are peculiar (To nick a style from Bret Harte)
We heard you the first time round pal and weren't impressed then.
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #949 on: October 05, 2014, 09:37:56 AM »
Web trolls unleash vile attacks on Irish-based Maddie authors
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Published 05/10/2014 | 02:30


Anthony Summers and Robyn Swan, authors of Looking for Madeline. Photo: Michael MacSweeney/Provision

A vicious internet campaign has been unleashed against the Irish-based authors of a book about the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.


Anthony Summers and his wife, Robbyn Swan, have been subjected to a campaign of vile and sinister abuse, mostly via Facebook and Twitter, because their investigative book, Looking for Madeleine, vindicates her parents, Gerry and Kate McCann.

The veteran investigative reporters - who have written eight award-winning biographies between them - were taken aback by the personal nature of the online attacks.

"My daughter burst into tears over some of the things she read online. She was worried that her friends might read and believe the things that had been written about me," Robbyn told the Sunday Independent.

Robbyn and Anthony were tipped off during their two- year-long research for the book on Madeleine's disappearance in Portugal seven years ago that they too could become targets if their work was perceived as verifying the McCanns' account of what happened.

"As far as the internet trolls are concerned, we were informed about a week before our book came out that we should be very careful and alert to the possibility that our book would become a target for these people," said Robbyn.

"Sure enough, within days before the book was published it was being reviewed - despite the fact people couldn't have seen the book."

One of the Twitter trolls at the centre of vile comments about the McCanns, @sweepyface, also organised an internet campaign of negative reviews of the book. The authors, who live in west Waterford, say there is no evidence to link the McCanns with Madeleine's disappearance.

ANALYSIS PAGE 20

"The truth is that there isn't any such evidence," Anthony said. "The stuff on the internet is pure malicious drivel. I use those words carefully - malicious drivel. It is spew - it not about free speech. There were loathsome things said. This is an embattled couple who have vulnerable children. The very fact that vicious people are saying they should be hurt. . . it has the potential to trigger some fool to do something. So people should be extraordinarily careful here."

The couple have written or co-written eight bestselling books on Richard Nixon, Marilyn Monroe, J Edgar Hoover and JFK.

They were also shortlisted for the prestigious Pulitzer Prize for their 2011 book, The Eleventh Day which set out to tell "the full story of 9/11 and Osama bin Laden".

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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #950 on: October 05, 2014, 09:39:31 AM »
"Pure, malicious drivel" is how Anthony Summers sums up the online so-called evidence against the McCanns and he's not wrong. 

Offline Benice

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« Reply #951 on: October 05, 2014, 10:00:03 AM »
"Pure, malicious drivel" is how Anthony Summers sums up the online so-called evidence against the McCanns and he's not wrong.

They are despicable lynchmobbers IMO - some of whom will no doubt regard the following as something to crow about.

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The veteran investigative reporters - who have written eight award-winning biographies between them - were taken aback by the personal nature of the online attacks.

"My daughter burst into tears over some of the things she read online. She was worried that her friends might read and believe the things that had been written about me," Robbyn told the Sunday Independent.
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The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

stephen25000

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #952 on: October 05, 2014, 10:05:24 AM »
"Pure, malicious drivel" is how Anthony Summers sums up the online so-called evidence against the McCanns and he's not wrong.

The result of poor book sales.

Summers and Swan of course came up with nothing new, just rehashed material.

Very original.

Nice to see more people now looking at the PJ files for themselves.

Making their own minds up, without the 'assistance' of 'S and S'.


Offline Mr Gray

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #953 on: October 05, 2014, 10:15:41 AM »
The result of poor book sales.

Summers and Swan of course came up with nothing new, just rehashed material.

Very original.

Nice to see more people now looking at the PJ files for themselves.

Making their own minds up, without the 'assistance' of 'S and S'.

So how many books have been sold?...the answer is you don't know

stephen25000

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #954 on: October 05, 2014, 10:22:48 AM »
So how many books have been sold?...the answer is you don't know

Well give the figures then. 8((()*/


Offline Benice

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #955 on: October 05, 2014, 10:24:45 AM »
The result of poor book sales.

Summers and Swan of course came up with nothing new, just rehashed material.

Very original.

Nice to see more people now looking at the PJ files for themselves.

Making their own minds up, without the 'assistance' of 'S and S'.

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The veteran investigative reporters - who have written eight award-winning biographies between them - were taken aback by the personal nature of the online attacks.  Unquote


Yeah right.  Anyone can see that unlike your good self  - it's obvious that the authors must have completely misread the files - or didn't have the brains to understand them.

Mega wishful thinking on your part IMO Stephen.


The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #956 on: October 05, 2014, 10:29:03 AM »
Well give the figures then. 8((()*/

I've no idea and neither do you. You are the one saying sales are poor...what are they...you don't know

stephen25000

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #957 on: October 05, 2014, 10:32:10 AM »
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The veteran investigative reporters - who have written eight award-winning biographies between them - were taken aback by the personal nature of the online attacks.  Unquote


Yeah right.  Anyone can see that unlike your good self  - it's obvious that the authors must have completely misread the files - or didn't have the brains to understand them.

Mega wishful thinking on your part IMO Stephen.

What new theories have they come up with ?

Answer.........NONE.

What was achieved by writing the book ?

Answer............NOTHING.

What was the point in writing the book ?

Answer.......THERE WASN'T.

However, they received an advance for the book. 8((()*/


stephen25000

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Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #958 on: October 05, 2014, 10:38:05 AM »
I've no idea and neither do you. You are the one saying sales are poor...what are they...you don't know

Is it in the Amazon top 100 book sales ?

NOPE.

Top 200 maybe ?

Offline Benice

Re: Summers & Swan - A new book - Looking For Madeleine
« Reply #959 on: October 05, 2014, 10:41:12 AM »
Is it in the Amazon top 100 book sales ?

NOPE.

Top 200 maybe ?

I didn't buy the book from Amazon - who you seem to think is the only outlet.   It's not.

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal