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Offline jassi

Re: Is SY all it's cracked up to be ?
« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2014, 05:04:15 PM »
I suppose that when your leader is supportive of something, it would be a brave minion who would go against him.
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Is SY all it's cracked up to be ?
« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2014, 05:05:25 PM »
Quote from: jassi on August 25, 2014, 05:04:15 PM
I suppose that when your leader is supportive of something, it would be a brave minion who would go against him.
Who do you believe to be the supportive leader and who the timorous wee minion in this instance?
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Offline Brietta

Re: Is SY all it's cracked up to be ?
« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2014, 05:08:56 PM »
Quote from: davel on August 25, 2014, 04:32:29 PM
It doesn't really matter because if someone undertook a huge study that proved SY was the best Stephen and others wouldn't accept it...it's basically  attempt to discredit anyone who supports the McCanns

Spot on: if the Met was investigating the Drs McCann and their friends there are those who would be proclaiming them from the rooftops.
They are still having difficulty coming to terms with the fact that neither the Met nor the PJ are the least bit interested in Madeleine's parents.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is SY all it's cracked up to be ?
« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2014, 05:11:28 PM »
Quote from: Brietta on August 25, 2014, 05:08:56 PM
Spot on: if the Met was investigating the Drs McCann and their friends there are those who would be proclaiming them from the rooftops.
They are still having difficulty coming to terms with the fact that neither the Met nor the PJ are the least bit interested in Madeleine's parents.

and that their  hero amaral got it all wrong
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stephen25000

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Re: Is SY all it's cracked up to be ?
« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2014, 05:15:45 PM »
Quote from: davel on August 25, 2014, 04:20:02 PM
You will find a massive list of complaints against every force in every country in the world...simple

i.e. No better or no worse than any other one.

However, mccann supporters put them on a pedestal they don't deserve, due to their vested interest in the 'investigation'.

 8((()*/
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Is SY all it's cracked up to be ?
« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2014, 05:16:57 PM »
Someone made reference to the Jill Dando case and Barry George recently and claimed that this was being used to discredit Op Grange as Redwood is common to both.  I would say there is no need to discredit them as they have managed that all on their own.  And with Redwood retiring soon who will carry the can then?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is SY all it's cracked up to be ?
« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2014, 05:17:53 PM »
Quote from: stephen25000 on August 25, 2014, 05:15:45 PM
i.e. No better or no worse than any other one.

However, mccann supporters put them on a pedestal they don't deserve, due to their vested interest in the 'investigation'.

 8((()*/

I don't think they are perfect but a lot better than some
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Is SY all it's cracked up to be ?
« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2014, 05:19:34 PM »
Quote from: stephen25000 on August 25, 2014, 05:15:45 PM
i.e. No better or no worse than any other one.

However, mccann supporters put them on a pedestal they don't deserve, due to their vested interest in the 'investigation'.

 8((()*/
If the Met are "no worse" than the PJ then presumably you treat both forces with equal respect, and when both forces make it clear that they are investigating individuals other than the McCanns you should be able to deal with that in an adult way, rather than delude yourself into thinking that secretly they are building a case against them.  Can you try just for once to be mature enough to accept this?
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stephen25000

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Re: Is SY all it's cracked up to be ?
« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2014, 05:30:40 PM »
Quote from: Alfred R Jones on August 25, 2014, 05:19:34 PM
If the Met are "no worse" than the PJ then presumably you treat both forces with equal respect, and when both forces make it clear that they are investigating individuals other than the McCanns you should be able to deal with that in an adult way, rather than delude yourself into thinking that secretly they are building a case against them.  Can you try just for once to be mature enough to accept this?

Can you also say that the PJ got it wrong the first time with 100% certainty, and if so , what is your evidence for that ?


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ferryman

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Re: Is SY all it's cracked up to be ?
« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2014, 05:34:18 PM »
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Is SY all it's cracked up to be ?
« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2014, 05:38:31 PM »
Quote from: stephen25000 on August 25, 2014, 05:30:40 PM
Can you also say that the PJ got it wrong the first time with 100% certainty, and if so , what is your evidence for that ?


The PJ got it wrong the first time, of that I am 100% certain. My evidence for that is that after many months of subjecting the McCanns to the closest scrutiny they found no evidence against them and are now pursuing other avenues of enquiry.  Now, it takes someone with a mature and logical mind to accept this as the reality of the situation - I have one, now the questions is -  do you?
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Re: Is SY all it's cracked up to be ?
« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2014, 05:47:59 PM »
Another of those reports seems to relate to something that was 12 years old ...

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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Is SY all it's cracked up to be ?
« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2014, 06:17:10 PM »
Quote from: Alfred R Jones on August 25, 2014, 05:38:31 PM
The PJ got it wrong the first time, of that I am 100% certain. My evidence for that is that after many months of subjecting the McCanns to the closest scrutiny they found no evidence against them and are now pursuing other avenues of enquiry.  Now, it takes someone with a mature and logical mind to accept this as the reality of the situation - I have one, now the questions is -  do you?

It wasn't really the closest scrutiny was it, on the night of the 3rd of May/ morning of the 4th for instance, when Kate was out opening a big ol dumpster type bin in the early hours, they weren't being scrutinised then.

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Offline jassi

Re: Is SY all it's cracked up to be ?
« Reply #28 on: August 25, 2014, 06:24:33 PM »
Quote from: Alfred R Jones on August 25, 2014, 05:05:25 PM
Who do you believe to be the supportive leader and who the timorous wee minion in this instance?

Hogan-Howe is the openly supportive leader. I doubt if even a Detective Inspector nearing retirement would openly disagree with the Commissioner.
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I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is SY all it's cracked up to be ?
« Reply #29 on: August 25, 2014, 06:25:59 PM »
Quote from: jassi on August 25, 2014, 06:24:33 PM
Hogan-Howe is the openly supportive leader. I doubt if even a Detective Inspector nearing retirement would openly disagree with the Commissioner.

nearing retirement he can speak his mind...doesn't need promotion now
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