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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Is SY all it's cracked up to be ?
« Reply #30 on: August 25, 2014, 06:47:31 PM »
Hogan-Howe is the openly supportive leader. I doubt if even a Detective Inspector nearing retirement would openly disagree with the Commissioner.
And why do you suppose Hogan-Howe is supportive of the McCanns - is he "in on it"? 

stephen25000

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Re: Is SY all it's cracked up to be ?
« Reply #31 on: August 25, 2014, 07:04:48 PM »
So for those members of the police force who think that the 'abduction' was made up, what do you say to them ?
« Last Edit: August 29, 2014, 02:11:15 PM by John »

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is SY all it's cracked up to be ?
« Reply #32 on: August 25, 2014, 07:24:04 PM »
So for those members of the police force who think that the 'abduction' was made up, what do you say to them ?

you will always be a mere bobby on the beat

stephen25000

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Re: Is SY all it's cracked up to be ?
« Reply #33 on: August 25, 2014, 07:27:14 PM »
you will always be a mere bobby on the beat

Very droll. @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(*

Offline Carana

Re: Is SY all it's cracked up to be ?
« Reply #34 on: August 25, 2014, 07:27:30 PM »
So for those members of the police force who think that the 'abduction' was made up, what do you say to them ?

Aside from Amaral and some of his team members, which officers involved in the investigation(s) think that?

stephen25000

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Re: Is SY all it's cracked up to be ?
« Reply #35 on: August 25, 2014, 07:28:54 PM »
Aside from Amaral and some of his team members, which officers involved in the investigation(s) think that?

Why don't you ask them ?

and I wasn't just referring to those in Portugal either. 8(0(*
« Last Edit: August 29, 2014, 02:11:31 PM by John »

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Is SY all it's cracked up to be ?
« Reply #36 on: August 25, 2014, 09:44:52 PM »
Are there any instances of people in England still behind bars despite it being proved that that the person(s) convicted had first had the sh!t beaten out of them by Scotland Yard Officers?

Oh come now good sir where has your head been ?
from wikipedia
"The convictions of the Maguire Seven were quashed in 1991. The court held that members of the London Metropolitan Police beat some of the Seven into confessing to the crimes and withheld information that would have cleared them"

Now check out the Birmingham 6, The Guildford 4 and the Maguires to see what the British police are capable of the Met included.
Whilst they do not remain behind bars they were in for a goodly time having been beaten and tortured before having heir convictions declared unsafe.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is SY all it's cracked up to be ?
« Reply #37 on: August 25, 2014, 09:47:20 PM »
Oh come now good sir where has your head been ?
from wikipedia
"The convictions of the Maguire Seven were quashed in 1991. The court held that members of the London Metropolitan Police beat some of the Seven into confessing to the crimes and withheld information that would have cleared them"

Now check out the Birmingham 6, The Guildford 4 and the Maguires to see what the British police are capable of the Met included.
Whilst they do not remain behind bars they were in for a goodly time having been beaten and tortured before having heir convictions declared unsafe.

you don't understand the difference do you...in Portugal convictions are never unsafe...and if you believe that you are a banana

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Is SY all it's cracked up to be ?
« Reply #38 on: August 26, 2014, 12:39:45 PM »
you don't understand the difference do you...in Portugal convictions are never unsafe...and if you believe that you are a banana
I don't see the point  of your post. Please enlighten a poor deluded old lady.
Did  the British police beat the defendants in the cases I mentioned or not? Were The Met involved in one case or not?
Ferryman asked for examples I gave them.
But of course it will all be different in the Humpty Dumpty, Topsy Turvy world of McFan lala land.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Is SY all it's cracked up to be ?
« Reply #39 on: August 26, 2014, 12:49:52 PM »
you don't understand the difference do you...in Portugal convictions are never unsafe...and if you believe that you are a banana

I think the Hislop quote may go over a few heads. 

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is SY all it's cracked up to be ?
« Reply #40 on: August 26, 2014, 12:50:35 PM »
I don't see the point  of your post. Please enlighten a poor deluded old lady.
Did  the British police beat the defendants in the cases I mentioned or not? Were The Met involved in one case or not?
Ferryman asked for examples I gave them.
But of course it will all be different in the Humpty Dumpty, Topsy Turvy world of McFan lala land.

...you are in denial....miscarriages of justice happen in every country..in the Uk we accept this and compensate the victims...in Portugal it is not admitted...Portuguese justice pretends it never makes mistakes..
« Last Edit: August 29, 2014, 05:13:55 PM by John »

Offline Carana

Re: Is SY all it's cracked up to be ?
« Reply #41 on: August 26, 2014, 12:54:02 PM »
Why don't you ask them ?

and I wasn't just referring to those in Portugal either. 8(0(*

I'm aware that there's some woman apparently on the Met force who didn't agree with the expenditure at the time of budget cutbacks.

But my question concerns who - among those who actually have access to all of the files and who are active in the review / investigation teams - is against this investigation?
« Last Edit: August 27, 2014, 12:31:39 PM by John »

Offline jassi

Re: Is SY all it's cracked up to be ?
« Reply #42 on: August 26, 2014, 03:12:49 PM »
I'm aware that there's some woman apparently on the Met force who didn't agree with the expenditure at the time of budget cutbacks.

But my question concerns who - among those who actually have access to all of the files and who are active in the review / investigation teams - is against this investigation?

Since when do turkeys vote for Christmas ?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Brietta

Re: Is SY all it's cracked up to be ?
« Reply #43 on: August 26, 2014, 03:21:47 PM »
I'm aware that there's some woman apparently on the Met force who didn't agree with the expenditure at the time of budget cutbacks.

But my question concerns who - among those who actually have access to all of the files and who are active in the review / investigation teams - is against this investigation?

She was not a serving officer; a politician? on the police board, I believe, for the City of London.

I think it is evident that those working on the case from the Met are convinced of its value; I think it would be possible to make the same observation for the PJ as their review resulted in the recommendation to re-open the case.
« Last Edit: August 29, 2014, 02:13:25 PM by John »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is SY all it's cracked up to be ?
« Reply #44 on: August 27, 2014, 08:59:52 PM »
...who can forget the fiasco, a year later, of the Forest Gate raid in which hundreds of officers swooped on an East London street, claiming one of the homes was a base for the manufacture of deadly chemicals? During the raid Mohammed Abdul Kahar was shot at close range inside his own home. As they frantically back-pedalled when not even so much as an asprin was found, police had plenty of words to say about the shooting of an innocent man but “sorry” was not one of them – until officers were ordered to apologise for the botched raid.[/font]

Why does ridley not tell the truth...the police were looking for bomb making materials and acting on specific intelligence...the police did not find any bomb making chemicals but interestingly they did find several hundred pornographic images of children on the  arrested mans laptop
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