Author Topic: The Pedras Brancas building and Smithman's route.  (Read 55766 times)

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Offline misty

Re: The Pedras Brancas building and Smithman's route.
« Reply #90 on: September 15, 2014, 01:34:34 AM »
One of the UK newspaper reports about the "why did you bring her here?" conversation did claim it was overheard outside that R 25 Abril address.
However I think that particular newspaper is mistaken on that location detail. And this conversation sounds like it is indoors not outdoors IMO.

I suggest that the source of the report still has a major axe to grind with one SM. IMO.

Offline pegasus

Re: The Pedras Brancas building and Smithman's route.
« Reply #91 on: September 15, 2014, 02:05:14 AM »
I suggest that the source of the report still has a major axe to grind with one SM. IMO.
I understand what you're saying, but IMO  the "why did you ..." conversation is not connected to him and therefore it must have occured at some other location. 

Offline misty

Re: The Pedras Brancas building and Smithman's route.
« Reply #92 on: September 15, 2014, 02:45:06 AM »
I understand what you're saying, but IMO  the "why did you ..." conversation is not connected to him and therefore it must have occured at some other location. 

Which R d Abril address are you referring to? No. 14?

Offline pegasus

Re: The Pedras Brancas building and Smithman's route.
« Reply #93 on: September 15, 2014, 03:37:06 PM »
Which R d Abril address are you referring to? No. 14?
I was referring to number 4. Only because a couple of newspaper reports (incorrectly IMO) placed the conversation outside that address. The arguido release makes it obvious IMO that it was not there.
You mentioned a different address, number 14, which is immediately nextdoor to clinic, and is mentioned in the files in two contexts IIRC.
« Last Edit: September 15, 2014, 06:00:27 PM by pegasus »

Offline misty

Re: The Pedras Brancas building and Smithman's route.
« Reply #94 on: September 17, 2014, 06:56:45 PM »
I was referring to number 4. Only because a couple of newspaper reports (incorrectly IMO) placed the conversation outside that address. The arguido release makes it obvious IMO that it was not there.
You mentioned a different address, number 14, which is immediately nextdoor to clinic, and is mentioned in the files in two contexts IIRC.

Thank you.
Wish I still had the copy of that "engineering works" application for Sr. Marreiros.....I'm sure it was no. 14 Rua 25 de Abril.......back in Dec. 2010.
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Offline pegasus

Re: The Pedras Brancas building and Smithman's route.
« Reply #95 on: September 20, 2014, 01:55:31 AM »
Thank you.
Wish I still had the copy of that "engineering works" application for Sr. Marreiros.....I'm sure it was no. 14 Rua 25 de Abril.......back in Dec. 2010.
If you look at the clinic, 14 is just left of it. Possibly multiple flats? I don't think it's of any relevance at all. In the files there are samples sent for testing listed with this address (although that might mean outside in the street I don't know). Also IMO this might be an address SH/KM/AC were meaning to contact as part of their investigation?
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Offline sadie

Re: The Pedras Brancas building and Smithman's route.
« Reply #96 on: September 20, 2014, 12:54:41 PM »
If you look at the clinic, 14 is just left of it. Possibly multiple flats? I don't think it's of any relevance at all. In the files there are samples sent for testing listed with this address (although that might mean outside in the street I don't know). Also IMO this might be an address SH/KM/AC were meaning to contact as part of their investigation?
I am sorry to be a pest, but I dont know who you mean by SH/KM/AC.   Could you please enighten me. 

I am assuming that we are talking about the red and white Luz Doc clinic on the N.W. corner of R.d'Escola and R.25 Abril?

Offline pegasus

Re: The Pedras Brancas building and Smithman's route.
« Reply #97 on: September 20, 2014, 07:28:56 PM »
I am sorry to be a pest, but I dont know who you mean by SH/KM/AC.   Could you please enighten me. 

I am assuming that we are talking about the red and white Luz Doc clinic on the N.W. corner of R.d'Escola and R.25 Abril?
1. S.Hubbard, K Mccann, A.Cowley, for example see http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2009/05/mccanns-pressure-and-harass-ocean-club.html , this was genuine investigation re the tapas bookings.
2. Yes that's right, the clinic is number 12.
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Offline Anna

Re: The Pedras Brancas building and Smithman's route.
« Reply #98 on: September 20, 2014, 07:41:26 PM »
It was suggested at one time on here, that it could have been a burglary gone wrong or a car accident to maddie and that someone was trying to get her to medical help and then,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
« Last Edit: September 20, 2014, 07:54:43 PM by Anna »
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline pegasus

Re: The Pedras Brancas building and Smithman's route.
« Reply #99 on: September 20, 2014, 07:59:31 PM »
It was suggested at one time on here, that it could have been a burglary gone wrong or a car accident to maddie and that someone was trying to get her to help and then,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
When seen by A.Smith, the man had already passed the clinic and crossed Rua 25 Abril.

Offline Anna

Re: The Pedras Brancas building and Smithman's route.
« Reply #100 on: September 20, 2014, 08:05:04 PM »
When seen by A.Smith, the man had already passed the clinic and crossed Rua 25 Abril.

I didnt say that it was the man in Smith sighting. I am not comvinced of smithman
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline pegasus

Re: The Pedras Brancas building and Smithman's route.
« Reply #101 on: September 20, 2014, 08:21:12 PM »
I didnt say that it was the man in Smith sighting. I am not convinced of smithman
Ok now I understand what you are saying.
But this particular premises is not open in the evenings/nights - if you need an emergency doctor in the evening/night you have to phone.

Offline Anna

Re: The Pedras Brancas building and Smithman's route.
« Reply #102 on: September 20, 2014, 08:26:03 PM »
Ok now I understand what you are saying.
But this particular premises is not open in the evenings/nights - if you need an emergency doctor in the evening/night you have to phone.

OK Thanks again. It would be open friday, sat and sun,
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline pegasus

Re: The Pedras Brancas building and Smithman's route.
« Reply #103 on: September 20, 2014, 10:29:30 PM »
OK Thanks again. It would be open friday, sat and sun,
However, in defence of your idea: a non-local might be aware it was there, but unaware it was shut at night, so might go anyway.

Offline sadie

Re: The Pedras Brancas building and Smithman's route.
« Reply #104 on: September 21, 2014, 12:07:46 PM »
1. S.Hubbard, K Mccann, A.Cowley, for example see http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2009/05/mccanns-pressure-and-harass-ocean-club.html , this was genuine investigation re the tapas bookings.
2. Yes that's right, the clinic is number 12.
Thanks Pegasus