The Pedras Brancas building and Smithman's route.

[sadie]

IMO.....
1 & 2 are black & white.
 Number 3 leads you into the grey areas of how the dogs could be correct in only McCann related areas but effectively failed in all other non-McCann related areas. That issue is compounded if Madeleine was, in fact, removed by an abductor & taken towards the seafront.
I just can't see an innocent explanation for the VRD alerts to Sean's T-shirt & shorts when the other not-so-random alerts are factored in to the intelligence gathered during the dogs' deployment.

Only an idea, but how about if Kate had cuddled him one day after work and Cadavar odour which had contaminated her clothes had then passed on to Seans T shirt.

And most clothhes packed were clean but a few were worn a little before.  It would be a mammoth task having sufficient freshly laundered clothes, along with all the other things that kids need, ready to pack for three little ones.



But let's not forget, Eddie was double trained.  He marked 1) Cadavaer odour and 2) the dried blood from a living person.



We have no proof that Keela checked this T shirt, and identified dried living blood , or not.  Without her check, we don't know if Eddie was identifying cadaver odour or the remains of dried blood from a living person


So he could have been marking the dried blood of a living person.  Soys are always grazing themselves.



We just dont know, do we ?

[misty]

Only an idea, but how about if Kate had cuddled him one day after work and Cadavar odour which had contaminated her clothes had then passed on to Seans T shirt.

And most clothhes packed were clean but a few were worn a little before.  It would be a mammoth task having sufficient freshly laundered clothes, along with all the other things that kids need, ready to pack for three little ones.



But let's not forget, Eddie was double trained.  He marked 1) Cadavaer odour and 2) the dried blood from a living person.



We have no proof that Keela checked this T shirt, and identified dried living blood , or not.  Without her check, we don't know if Eddie was identifying cadaver odour or the remains of dried blood from a living person


So he could have been marking the dried blood of a living person.  Soys are always grazing themselves.



We just dont know, do we ?

IMO it's highly unlikely Sean's T-shirt/shorts & Kate's trousers were either stored together at home or beside each other in a suitcase, exclusive of all other clothing. I thought we'd kinda almost agreed a few years ago that Sean's t-shirt was in the laundry pile on the wardrobe shelf shown in the crime scene photos taken overnight 3rd/4th May. IMO there was no contamination on Sean's clothing prior to 4th May.

[Robittybob1]

IMO it's highly unlikely Sean's T-shirt/shorts & Kate's trousers were either stored together at home or beside each other in a suitcase, exclusive of all other clothing. I thought we'd kinda almost agreed a few years ago that Sean's t-shirt was in the laundry pile on the wardrobe shelf shown in the crime scene photos taken overnight 3rd/4th May. IMO there was no contamination on Sean's clothing prior to 4th May.

What about if those items were under the suitcase that was thought to have a cadaver in it while in the wardrobe shelf?

[misty]

What about if those items were under the suitcase that was thought to have a cadaver in it while in the wardrobe shelf?

In that scenario, I would have expected more of the dirty laundry on the  lower shelf to have been contaminated & anything that was subsequently packed in the case to have also been heavily contaminated.

[Robittybob1]

In that scenario, I would have expected more of the dirty laundry on the  lower shelf to have been contaminated & anything that was subsequently packed in the case to have also been heavily contaminated.

When I say under I mean directly under the suitcase and on the same shelf, not on the shelf below.

[misty]

When I say under I mean directly under the suitcase and on the same shelf, not on the shelf below.

I don't see any clothing immediately under the suitcase itself in the crime scene photos.

[Robittybob1]

I don't see any clothing immediately under the suitcase itself in the crime scene photos.

I bet you can put a suitcase on a shelf with two small items of clothing under it, and they can be entirely hidden by the size of the case.

[misty]

I bet you can put a suitcase on a shelf with two small items of clothing under it, and they can be entirely hidden by the size of the case.

Of course that's possible but it can't be verified by the crime scene photo.

[Robittybob1]

Of course that's possible but it can't be verified by the crime scene photo.

Remember what Mark Rowley said "all theories have to remain open".  If it is not possible to prove either way both options remain viable. The items may or may not have been under the suitcase.

[misty]

Remember what Mark Rowley said "all theories have to remain open".  If it is not possible to prove either way both options remain viable. The items may or may not have been under the suitcase.

Sean's red t-shirt was in the laundry pile on the lower shelf. Somewhere on the forum is a discussion during which Pegasus showed this to be a fact.
I'd just like to know how a stranger who'd abducted Madeleine could have contaminated Sean's clothing by either picking him up or by other means.

[The General]

I need to be careful what I say here otherwise I might inadvertently give away my theory and suspect(s) but imo the whole case can be unraveled by the following:

Anyone observing/hearing the McCanns exit/enter via the patio doors would know 5A was unlocked since the doors can't be locked externally.  This of course would not rule out the possibility an adult had entered earlier via the patio doors or front door and was inside the apartment whilst the McCanns were at tapas.  Any would be intruder would also need to be mindful of the fact the McCanns may have had a baby monitor in place.

Work it our for yourselves guys n gals 

Mrs Fenn!
O.M.G.
Did not see that coming!
It all fits, she went down there between 'checks' to get the kids to stop greetin'.

[Robittybob1]

Mrs Fenn!
O.M.G.
Did not see that coming!
It all fits, she went down there between 'checks' to get the kids to stop greetin'.

http://www.scotranslate.com/translate/scottish/greetin/1/532#.XT669PIza9U
"greetin' - Scottish to English
The English translation of "greetin'" is
1. crying
2. moaning"

[John]

I have removed the references to 'hugging a corpse' because they are a breach of the high standards we expect from contributors to this forum. There are ways to express oneself without resorting to crudity. Please take note!

[Robittybob1]

I have removed the references to 'hugging a corpse' because they are a breach of the high standards we expect from contributors to this forum. There are ways to express oneself without resorting to crudity. Please take note!

As you may know I explored the Jonbenet case around Christmas time 2018 and I was surprised but Patsy Ramsey lay on top of Jonbenet's cadaver in an act of reverence asking that Jesus raise her up as he did Lazarus.  Now that does seem bizarre  to most people but it is a documented fact.  IMO it stems from a story in the Old Testament where one of the prophets raised a child back to life after laying on top of the dead child.

So it might just be a thing that a deeply religious person will do when they recall what they had read in the past and do it themselves in desperation.

[John]

As you may know I explored the Jonbenet case around Christmas time 2018 and I was surprised but Patsy Ramsey lay on top of Jonbenet's cadaver in an act of reverence asking that Jesus raise her up as he did Lazarus.  Now that does seem bizarre  to most people but it is a documented fact.  IMO it stems from a story in the Old Testament where one of the prophets raised a child back to life after laying on top of the dead child.

So it might just be a thing that a deeply religious person will do when they recall what they had read in the past and do it themselves in desperation.

People do many things when their back is against the wall. Many including the GNR officers who witnessed it would consider the praying arab event strange but it happens.