The Smith sighting revisited.

[pathfinder73]

Is there a word missing there?  ........  family?

I bet his nose was a lot longer at the end of that interview than at the beginning.  Not a single mention of the fact that apart from his wife none of the rest of the Smith family agreed with their father, and even he wasn't certain.

Can't you read?

"The Smith family [Irish witnesses] is available to make a formal recognition. We had already contacted the Smith family, from Ireland, whose patriarch was prepared to travel to the Algarve, to give a new statement and for a formal recognition"

[Angelo222]

Always remembering that the Smiths have an apartment in Praia da Luz so returning for them was never going to be a problem.

[pegasus]

Always remembering that the Smiths have an apartment in Praia da Luz so returning for them was never going to be a problem.

He 50% owned the apartment so would have to plan ahead when to use it to fit in around the other owner and possibly rental bookings too. Also better for PJ to have them near Portimao.

[Eleanor]

Can't you read?

"The Smith family [Irish witnesses] is available to make a formal recognition. We had already contacted the Smith family, from Ireland, whose patriarch was prepared to travel to the Algarve, to give a new statement and for a formal recognition"

Who said that?  How can 60 to 80% be formal recognition?  Every body carries a child like that.

[Benice]

Can't you read?

"The Smith family [Irish witnesses] is available to make a formal recognition. We had already contacted the Smith family, from Ireland, whose patriarch was prepared to travel to the Algarve, to give a new statement and for a formal recognition"

The implication being that all the Smith family thought it was Gerry- even though Martin Smith said that apart from his wife none of the rest of the family agreed with him and he wasn't 100% sure himself.      But then IIRC this is the man who said in an interview that Jane Tanner was present at the 'confrontation' meeting with Murat.   That wasn't true either.

[pegasus]

... Amaral interview ...
GA: When I left Portimão, on the 1st of October, I left on the 2nd but on the 1st we were arranging for those witnesses to come to Portugal. We already had permission from the national director, all that was left to do was to choose a hotel for them to stay and to schedule a date. After I left I know it took several months until the witness was heard, which happened around January or February this year, I don't know, through a rogatory letter or a request for assistance under international cooperation.

So
Monday 1st October: Mr Amaral is completing the arrangements for the Irish witnesses to fly to portugal again.
Tuesday 2nd October morning: Mr Amaral is removed from the case.

[pegasus]

We know from one of the younger members of the group of witnesses, that the man was wearing a long-sleeved black jacket or coat.

If this man was carrying a child illicitly (which is what most abduction theories AND most occultation theories are united in claiming), why did he not undo or take off his black jacket/coat and partly conceal the child with it?

[Eleanor]

We know from one of the younger members of the group of witnesses, that the man was wearing a long-sleeved black jacket or coat.

If this man was carrying a child illicitly (which is what most abduction theories AND most occultation theories are united in claiming), why did he not undo or take off his black jacket/coat and partly conceal the child with it?

Perleaze, don't distract me any further.  I don't think anyone has said anything about a jacket.

Okay, suppose they did.  Was Gerry wearing a jacket?

[Brietta]

How credible are the efits if they were produced by the Smiths?

Dr Amaral’s investigation didn’t require them in May 2007. 

Probably because Martin, Peter and Aoife Smith all said they would be unable to identify the man whose face they had not seen when he passed them in the darkness.

Yet over one year later they were able to produce almost photographic images of the man whose face they had not seen.

[misty]

Does anyone know if there was another night-creche between 5a & where Smithman was  seen?

[Benice]

Perleaze, don't distract me any further.  I don't think anyone has said anything about a jacket.

Okay, suppose they did. Was Gerry wearing a jacket?

No - according to the files he was wearing a light brown 'polar' top. 

(I presume that is a translation error or typo and should be 'polo') 

[pathfinder73]

How credible are the efits if they were produced by the Smiths?

Dr Amaral’s investigation didn’t require them in May 2007. 

Probably because Martin, Peter and Aoife Smith all said they would be unable to identify the man whose face they had not seen when he passed them in the darkness.

Yet over one year later they were able to produce almost photographic images of the man whose face they had not seen.

Martin Smith said SY have talked to the family on two separate occasions in an 18 month period before reopening the case with the Portuguese. And he was prime suspect on the CW special and Tannerman buried. Go figure.

[pathfinder73]

No - according to the files he was wearing a light brown 'polar' top. 

(I presume that is a translation error or typo and should be 'polo')

— Adds further that his son TA*** was questioned in Ireland and said that the individual was dressed in a long-sleeved coat/jacket, black in colour, and that the child was barefoot. (Peter Smith)

What's this black item on the sofa?

[Brietta]

Martin Smith said SY have talked to the family on two separate occasions in an 18 month period before reopening the case with the Portuguese. And he was prime suspect on the CW special and Tannerman buried. Go figure.

Did he happen to say why he could not describe the man's features a fortnight after seeing him ... but apparently had perfect recall more than a month later?

Why did Dr Amaral's investigation fail to get such excellent images? 

[pathfinder73]

Did he happen to say why he could not describe the man's features a fortnight after seeing him ... but apparently had perfect recall more than a mont later?

Why did Dr Amaral's investigation fail to get such excellent images?

Ask SY.