Britain is ruined!

[a.baker]

Rotherham isn't a one off sadly. My husband is currently counselling a young girl who is almost ready to go to the police over muslims grooming and abusing young white girls in the Croydon area. It seems its everywhere.

[Tim Invictus]

It is everywhere Amanda and god only knows how many 1000's of victims there actually are! There are a lot of blind and ignorant people, never exposed to the reality of what is actuallyhappening all over the country (and Europe) who are more worried about the civil rights of the s..mbags who are racially profiling our children than doing a thing or saying a word to oppose these abhorrent lowlifes!

[Alfred R Jones]

So you think it's ok convicted murderers are allowed into the country do you? To murder again! I suppose you have no problem with the literally 100's of Pakistani child grooming gangs specifically targetting underage whitr British girls? You ok with honour killings, female genital mutilation, acid attacks, muslim no go areas, school radicalisation, etc. etc?

Never mind the murder of Lee Rigby, the 7/7 bombings, dozens of foiled terrorist plots, illict drug epidemic, muggings, gun crime, prison overcrowding and violence, NHS at breaking point, housing crisis ..... shall I go on?

Personally I think our soldiers in the world wars wouldn't have bothered if they could see what has happened to their country in the last couple of generations! It's a disgrace!

Hysterical.  You obviously can't read either.

[Tim Invictus]

Hysterical.  You obviously can't read either.

You're just like Eleanor Alf; neither of you address or challenge any statement but just dismiss everything said with literally pointless derision! Perhaps it's because you both know everything I have said is the true state of affairs in Britian today!

If anything I have said is 'hysterical' and I 'can't read either' then do yourself, and any credibility you wish to have ,a favour and tell the thread exactly where I am wrong!

I fully concede and accept that the vast majority of immigrants are not jihadists nor child groomers, nor do they endorse or encourage such abhorrent behaviour. That is the only point you apologists can make but that does not detract for one second that these crimes are a direct threat to any decent society and they are virtually exclusive to the immigrant population!

[Holly Goodhead]

Hysterical.  You obviously can't read either.

Oh Alfred...I feel a swoon coming on...you look so damn cute.

Do we have any verifiable hard data re the UK immigrant population?  Eg % in prison population, % increase in GDP from immigrant population etc

Also what is the definition of 'immigrant'? 

It is easy to get carried away with tabloid headlines but as far as I can see there are some real serious issues here as highlighted by other posters.

[Andrea]

You're just like Eleanor Alf; neither of you address or challenge any statement but just dismiss everything said with literally pointless derision! Perhaps it's because you both know everything I have said is the true state of affairs in Britian today!

If anything I have said is 'hysterical' and I 'can't read either' then do yourself, and any credibility you wish to have ,a favour and tell the thread exactly where I am wrong!

I fully concede and accept that the vast majority of immigrants are not jihadists nor child groomers, nor do they endorse or encourage such abhorrent behaviour. That is the only point you apologists can make but that does not detract for one second that these crimes are a direct threat to any decent society and they are virtually exclusive to the immigrant population!

Timbo, i agree with what you have said. On a happier note, a young British Jihadist has been killed in Syria by an American airstrike. Happy days, 1 down. Better off dead over there than back on the streets over here.

[Tim Invictus]

Timbo, i agree with what you have said. On a happier note, a young British Jihadist has been killed in Syria by an American airstrike. Happy days, 1 down. Better off dead over there than back on the streets over here.

One down only 400 or so more to go. I wonder if Alfred is upset hearing the fate of one of his fine upstanding 'British' friends?

I note on the news today 9 'Brits' have been arrested on 'suspicion of encouraging terrorism'! I do wonder what atrocity is coming next; the french jihadist who gunned down 4 jews in a Brussels museum is also accused of raping a woman in Syria then slitting her throat. This after he had decapitated the woman's baby in front of her!

No problem with that Alfred and Eleanor?

President Putin is absolutely spot on when he says Western Europe has committed cultural suicide!

[Tim Invictus]

9 'British' muslim radical s..m arrested today (including the vile Choudray) for encouraging terrorism!

French mountain guide kidnapped and beheaded in Algeria ... needless to say by muslim radical s..m.

Plot by muslim radical s..m to bomb New York & Paris subways foiled today.

'British' muslim s..m videoed beheading two Americans and one Brit in Syria identified today.

Just another day in Islam ... Alf and Eleanor will no doubt be enraged by my racist review of today's terror news! 

[Andrea]

Islam, the religion of peace that is always at war.

Peaceful my arse.

[Tim Invictus]

Islam, the religion of peace that is always at war.

Peaceful my arse.

Careful Andrea, if you even talk about it you're  a racist!

[Holly Goodhead]

Perhaps we should have another thread re potential military action in Iraq?

Just listening to BBC News 24.  DC claiming ISIS are psychopaths and EM claiming religious ideology.  Imo it is clearly the latter and on par with Nazism - political ideology. To blame psychopathy on Islamic fundamentalism is nonsense. 

The reason ISIS are so dangerous is that they are here, there and everywhere.  With the Nazis their whereabouts were to a large degree known. 

A theory was put forward explaining how the Nazis were able to orchestrate and inflict such horrors and brutality which was based on obedience to an authority figure:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

For those who subscribe to this theory the worrying thing is that as far as ISIS goes obedience to an authority figure is a non-existent being ie prophet Muhammad  (shocked emoticon required).

[Alfred R Jones]

So you think it's ok convicted murderers are allowed into the country do you? To murder again! I suppose you have no problem with the literally 100's of Pakistani child grooming gangs specifically targetting underage whitr British girls? You ok with honour killings, female genital mutilation, acid attacks, muslim no go areas, school radicalisation, etc. etc?

Never mind the murder of Lee Rigby, the 7/7 bombings, dozens of foiled terrorist plots, illict drug epidemic, muggings, gun crime, prison overcrowding and violence, NHS at breaking point, housing crisis ..... shall I go on?

Personally I think our soldiers in the world wars wouldn't have bothered if they could see what has happened to their country in the last couple of generations! It's a disgrace!

Here is proof that you are unable to read:

From my post:
 Whilst I agree that more should be done to ensure that convicted criminals are not allowed to set foot in the country, please don't use this case for political ranting. 

From your post above in reply to mine:

 So you think it's ok convicted murderers are allowed into the country do you?

The rest of your post is just more hysterical strawman guff.  I await your apology with breath unbated.

[Tim Invictus]

Here is proof that you are unable to read:

From my post:
 Whilst I agree that more should be done to ensure that convicted criminals are not allowed to set foot in the country, please don't use this case for political ranting. 

From your post above in reply to mine:

 So you think it's ok convicted murderers are allowed into the country do you?

The rest of your post is just more hysterical strawman guff.  I await your apology with breath unbated.

I do apologise for taking little note of your original post. When you get time off from tree hugging in blinkers perhaps you can be more specific about what I have said that is 'hysterical'? And do try and avoid the obvious 'the vast majority of immigrants aren't terrorists'!

[Alfred R Jones]

I do apologise for taking little note of your original post. When you get time off from tree hugging in blinkers perhaps you can be more specific about what I have said that is 'hysterical'? And do try and avoid the obvious 'the vast majority of immigrants aren't terrorists'!

You went into a hysterical rant at me without even properly bothering to read what I wrote or understand my real views, simply because I suggested that using the sad case of Alice Gross as a vehicle for bashing all immigrants was a bit, well, not on.  Have a bit of respect, both for this missing child and for the vast number of immigrants who live in this country who don't rape, torture, kill and behead.  I know I'm asking too much, silly me.

[Tim Invictus]

You went into a hysterical rant at me without even properly bothering to read what I wrote or understand my real views, simply because I suggested that using the sad case of Alice Gross as a vehicle for bashing all immigrants was a bit, well, not on.  Have a bit of respect, both for this missing child and for the vast number of immigrants who live in this country who don't rape, torture, kill and behead.  I know I'm asking too much, silly me.

Oh so I am 'using' the frightening disappearance of Alice Gross purely to bash immigration and I have no respect for her at all! And don't flatter yourself that you caused AN hysterical rant from me; we have already established I hadn't bothered to read you original post properly and your latest effort would only be as highly insulting as you wish if I gave a monkeys for your opinion! Unfortunately for you, I don't!

And perhaps it's you who should 'learn to read'! I told you three times not to bother with your only accepted 'vast majority' argument and yet as predicted that is all you had to say. Not a single word about the literally 1000's of underage white girls being groomed and raped by muslim men .... obviously not a problem you care about as you are more interested in defending the abusers' place in British society! You obviously have absolutely no respect for these 1000's of British child victims!

It's the politically correct pygmies, too scared to call a spade a spade, who have destroyed Britain!