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Offline Brietta

Re: Sunday Times sued by McCanns
« Reply #150 on: October 12, 2014, 10:22:31 PM »
Coz they are the ones leaving no stone unturned...?

Hmmm ... interesting response ... not.

The people who tried to ensure that these efits and any other publicity about Madeleine McCann would never see the light of day when they organised campaigns to have the CW programme pulled … are the people who are foaming at the mouth (exclusively at Madeleine’s parents – not the police who had been given copies) at the idea they hadn’t been publicised.

Something a bit Alice in Wonderland about that mentality …

Just how essential were these efits to the reopened investigation … a situation brought about only because her parents indeed left no stone unturned to have it happen?

Did we have a queue of people lining up to declare “I am Spar Smithman”?

Did the police arrest or question anyone on the strength of them … that remains to be seen … but I doubt it?

Some people don't let logic get in the way of something - anything fortifying an opportunity to indulge in some McCann baiting ... to whom they ignore that the ST had to pay damages because of their libellous article.

Don't think they would have done that ... if they hadn't had to.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Sunday Times sued by McCanns
« Reply #151 on: October 12, 2014, 10:24:16 PM »
Why are the British and Portuguese police leaving stones unturned then?

Because at the time of the report the Portuguese had archived the case and The Met had no remit to investigate?
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Sunday Times sued by McCanns
« Reply #152 on: October 12, 2014, 11:03:07 PM »
Hmmm ... interesting response ... not.

The people who tried to ensure that these efits and any other publicity about Madeleine McCann would never see the light of day when they organised campaigns to have the CW programme pulled … are the people who are foaming at the mouth (exclusively at Madeleine’s parents – not the police who had been given copies) at the idea they hadn’t been publicised.

Something a bit Alice in Wonderland about that mentality …

Just how essential were these efits to the reopened investigation … a situation brought about only because her parents indeed left no stone unturned to have it happen?

Did we have a queue of people lining up to declare “I am Spar Smithman”?

Did the police arrest or question anyone on the strength of them … that remains to be seen … but I doubt it?

Some people don't let logic get in the way of something - anything fortifying an opportunity to indulge in some McCann baiting ... to whom they ignore that the ST had to pay damages because of their libellous article.

Don't think they would have done that ... if they hadn't had to.

Are you saying the McCann organisation did not have the Smithman e-fit?
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Brietta

Re: Sunday Times sued by McCanns
« Reply #153 on: October 12, 2014, 11:09:20 PM »
Are you saying the McCann organisation did not have the Smithman e-fit?

            ???      &%+((£     ???
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline faithlilly

Re: Sunday Times sued by McCanns
« Reply #154 on: October 12, 2014, 11:53:17 PM »
The McCanns could have chosen to make the efits of Smithman available to the public, as the did with Cooperman, Victoria-Beckham-alikie etc, at anytime. The archiving of the process hadn't stopped them before. The fact that there no official investigation in progress had not stopped them before either.

The bald truth is that for their own reasons they chose not to and there is absolutely no getting away from that.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

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Re: Sunday Times sued by McCanns
« Reply #155 on: October 13, 2014, 10:24:31 AM »
And suddenly all this nonsense about 'confidentiality clauses' is knocked neatly into a cocked-hat.

Of course there were confidentiality clauses stopping their agents from making public information willy-nilly, just as the McCanns, themselves, (rightly) didn't feel they could gainsay the police by making public e-fits that came into their possession while there was no live and on-going investigation, at least without say-so of the police.

The McCanns would have been remiss in their duty not to draw up confidentiality clauses preventing their agents from making public willy-nilly arising from their investigations.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Sunday Times sued by McCanns
« Reply #156 on: October 13, 2014, 10:36:30 AM »
And suddenly all this nonsense about 'confidentiality clauses' is knocked neatly into a cocked-hat.

Of course there were confidentiality clauses stopping their agents from making public information willy-nilly, just as the McCanns, themselves, (rightly) didn't feel they could gainsay the police by making public e-fits that came into their possession while there was no live and on-going investigation, at least without say-so of the police.

The McCanns would have been remiss in their duty not to draw up confidentiality clauses preventing their agents from making public willy-nilly arising from their investigations.



We all watched the documentary on the CONMAN ... and we are supposed to accept without question anything emanating from that quarter ... just as long as it excoriates the McCanns.
« Last Edit: October 21, 2014, 01:01:51 AM by John »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Sunday Times sued by McCanns
« Reply #157 on: October 13, 2014, 10:43:32 AM »
We all watched the documentary on the CONMAN ... and we are supposed to accept without question anything emanating from that quarter ... just as long as it excoriates the McCanns.

Thats the way the logic works.  Just so long as they are saying the "right" things. 

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Sunday Times sued by McCanns
« Reply #158 on: October 13, 2014, 11:18:55 AM »
And suddenly all this nonsense about 'confidentiality clauses' is knocked neatly into a cocked-hat.

Of course there were confidentiality clauses stopping their agents from making public information willy-nilly, just as the McCanns, themselves, (rightly) didn't feel they could gainsay the police by making public e-fits that came into their possession while there was no live and on-going investigation, at least without say-so of the police.

The McCanns would have been remiss in their duty not to draw up confidentiality clauses preventing their agents from making public willy-nilly arising from their investigations.


Halligen certainly was prosecuted.
The spiel was certainly swallowed hook line sinker and halfway down the rod too.
Remember this? and of course the Mark Hollingsworth article in The Evening Standard.

Secret A-Team in hunt for Maddie Daily Star (no longer available online)

By Jerry Lawton
14th August 2008

Desperate Kate and Gerry McCann have forked out £500,000 on an "A-Team" of former top spooks to find missing daughter Madeleine.

The couple now have "a global operation" of dozens of retired FBI, CIA and even MI5 agents dedicated to solving the mystery of her disappearance.

The top secret team has been given six months to solve the riddle.

Doctors Kate and Gerry, both 40, have vowed to keep up the search for five-year-old Madeleine after the latest sighting at a Belgian bank was ruled out.

And the couple, from Rothley, Leics, have been reassured their new team of private eyes will follow up every lead around the world.

Their spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: "There is a global operation working for Kate and Gerry.

"They are internationally-based with components in Britain, America, Europe and other countries where sightings have been made."

The new team, appointed three months ago, is half way through a six-month contract.

Mr Mitchell explained: "A sum of £500,000 has been committed to them from the Find Madeleine Fund.

"They have been on board for a few months and are on a six-month contract.

"For security reasons we can't go into detail of the experts involved but it would not be wrong to say some are former military and police personnel with a degree of expertise."

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"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Sunday Times sued by McCanns
« Reply #159 on: October 13, 2014, 11:41:06 AM »
Yes, they were taken in by a fantasist and fraudster.  Like many others.  Including US government departments.   

Offline faithlilly

Re: Sunday Times sued by McCanns
« Reply #160 on: October 13, 2014, 11:54:28 AM »
Yes, they were taken in by a fantasist and fraudster.  Like many others.  Including US government departments.   

But it was Exton, a former undercover police officer who worked on MI5 operations, and not Halligen who spoke to the Times. Why on earth would he lie ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Eleanor

Re: Sunday Times sued by McCanns
« Reply #161 on: October 13, 2014, 11:58:18 AM »

Wasn't Exton done for shoplifting?

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Sunday Times sued by McCanns
« Reply #162 on: October 13, 2014, 12:02:48 PM »
Wasn't Exton done for shoplifting?

Indeed he was, as was Lady Isobel Barnett (for those old enough to remember).
But Oakley (they were called something else at the start) sure fooled the hell out of the "A Team" of Kennedy & Mitchell.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Sunday Times sued by McCanns
« Reply #163 on: October 13, 2014, 12:38:37 PM »
            ???      &%+((£     ???

I can only assume that you think they didn't have the e-fits because I can see I reason not to publicise them. There is no law would prevent them publicising them? No BS about active investigations, if you have an e-fit which your PIs have said is critical, why would you not distribute it to all and sundry.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Sunday Times sued by McCanns
« Reply #164 on: October 13, 2014, 01:01:52 PM »
Yes, they were taken in by a fantasist and fraudster.  Like many others.  Including US government departments.   

Really? I thought he was indicted for turning over a commodities company and their lawyers?
I can't find anything on conning US Government departments out of long green folding stuff. No doubt you you will have a cite for that?
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey