Investigation into McCann internet trolls launched by police

[Carew]

You said:- 
"This is just another repetition of your views............to which you are entitled.
That`s all.
It does not negate what I posted any more than Davel`s mindless insults did."

I replied:-
It is my view ... but it is an informed view.

You replied:-
...........but does not really relate to my post, to which it was attached.


For future reference ... I will respond to posts as I see fit ... and as I am "entitled".

Unless I am missing something profound you have just given a prime example of a trolling technique which I find risible.  So be a good thing now ... and go off and troll someone who might appreciate it.

Oh don`t be so silly with your trolling - technique - analyses and attempted- put - downs !

The posts I mean are copied below...The reply you gave does not relate to my post..........That is all I meant.



*sighs*


Carew
You posted an article dated 14th Oct. 2013 which stated that Police were monitoring alleged online abuse.......such material was therefore already known to them, with the authorities presumably able to discern, research, trace and bring offenders to justice.

Your justifications and selected press articles do not alter the principle that Mrs Leyland had apparently not been interviewed by the police or labelled a troll, despite her material being already out there on view and "exposed" to scrutiny already, plus the police being in possession of your "dossier".

It was a wholly unofficial "research" and selective targeting of this one person by the dossier compilers via the press............. presumably because the official police "action" didn`t match what you wanted done.........(Is that about right?)

Yes I do have problems with .............(as you put it in your post above)............." people who have taken it upon themselves to act as judge, jury and executioner" whilst pontificating to others about upholding the law.



Brietta
I think that abusive tweets from a few obsessives represent the tip of the iceberg are not the real problem here. 

The hounding of the McCanns has been organised since Madeleine’s disappearance in 2007 and I think people have to ask themselves by whom and they should also ask themselves why.

They should examine their consciences carefully and ask themselves what Madeleine’s siblings have done that the trolls now feel free to openly include them not just as collateral damage but as objects of their spite.

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[ferryman]

No reason, Stephen.  I am a firm believer in article 10 of the ECHR.

1. Everyone has the right to freedom of expression. This right
shall include freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart
information and ideas without interference by public authority
and regardless of frontiers. This Article shall not prevent States
from requiring the licensing of broadcasting, television or cinema
enterprises.
2. The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it
duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities,
conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and
are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national
security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention
of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for
the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing
the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for
maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary.

It's such a bummer when you quote the whole thing.

Or at least, for some, it is ...

[Jean-Pierre]

I dont think any of the vocal posters on social media, on either side, actually present any real threat.

Anyone actually intent on taking actual action would not spend their time spouting off on twitter.

[faithlilly]

Charged and tried?

You wanted examples of intrusions into the McCanns' privacy that invoked the twins.

I've given you one.

Here's another:

An actual tweet.

Marina Johnson ‏@beemmjay2011 4m
Was Ameilie #McCann on the school bus with Sean and will @reallorraine be interviewing the bus driver?
10:58 AM - 15 Jul 2014 · Details
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I'm sure it is far from isolated.

I'm sorry but we only have Wright's word for the threat and that is far from objective. Don't you think that if such a thing had happened the guilty parties face would be all over the papers because to plot a kidnapping is a very serious offence and not one that would go unpunished .

As to the tweet, it seems, it was more questioning what Kate had claimed in court, that if they are twins why wasn't Amelia on the same bus as Sean. It was in no way spiteful or threatening.....well only to people who want it to be I suppose.

[ferryman]

I'm sorry ...

That was a good start.

But the rest of what you wrote wrecked that promising beginning.

You should be sorry but you clearly aren't ...

This was evidence given to a Portuguese court.

[faithlilly]

I'm sorry ...

That was a good start.

But the rest of what you wrote wrecked that promising beginning.

You should be sorry but you clearly aren't ...

This was evidence given to a Portuguese court.

And your point is ?

Tell me ferryman if someone had committed  the very serious crime of conspiracy to kidnap, especially a minor, why were they never charged as in the Beckham kidnap plot ?

 http://www.theguardian.com/media/2003/jun/08/newsoftheworld.pressandpublishing

[ferryman]

And your point is ?

Tell me ferryman if someone had committed  the very serious crime of conspiracy to kidnap, especially a minor, why were they never charged as in the Beckham kidnap plot ?

 http://www.theguardian.com/media/2003/jun/08/newsoftheworld.pressandpublishing

The right people have not yet been identified, just as the right abductors of Ben Needham have not been identified. 

I don't think, even you, regard Kerry Needham as implicated in anything to do with Ben's disappearance -- as, indeed, you shouldn't.

Malicious and groundless accusations against Kate and Gerry, by default, damages the twins.

How can it not?

Kate and Gerry are their mother and father.

[carlymichelle]

We are here to stop the spread of lies.

but why the mcanns are   grown adults they can defend themselves unlike maddie

[faithlilly]

The right people have not yet been identified, just as the right abductors of Ben Needham have not been identified. 

I don't think, even you, regard Kerry Needham as implicated in anything to do with Ben's disappearance -- as, indeed, you shouldn't.

Malicious and groundless accusations against Kate and Gerry, by default, damages the twins.

How can it not?

Kate and Gerry are their mother and father.

Can I interpret from your answer that there is no hard evidence that the twins were ever threatened with kidnap and all you have in response is some mawkish, subjective nonsense ?

[ferryman]

Can I interpret from your answer that there is no hard evidence that the twins were ever threatened with kidnap and all you have in response is some mawkish, subjective nonsense ?

We are talking about trolling activity that impinges on the twins.

I have given you two examples.

[Eleanor]

Can I interpret from your answer that there is no hard evidence that the twins were ever threatened with kidnap and all you have in response is some mawkish, subjective nonsense ?

These things were said.  Whether or not they were meant is impossible to tell.

[faithlilly]

We are talking about trolling activity that impinges on the twins.

I have given you two examples.

The two examples you have given do not seem to have impinged on the twins at all.

Tell me ferryman in your opinion why wasn't the writer of the kidnap threat on the 3as charged ?

[carlymichelle]

We are talking about trolling activity that impinges on the twins.

I have given you two examples.

shouldnt the mcanns be supervising what the twins look at online most normal parents  do

[faithlilly]

These things were said.  Whether or not they were meant is impossible to tell.

Really Eleanor then why weren't the perpetrators arrested ? Conspiracy to kidnap a minor is a very serious offence.

[carlymichelle]

Really Eleanor then why weren't the perpetrators arrested ? Conspiracy to kidnap a minor is a very serious offence.

faithlily   i dont understand why the supporters think they are   doing the   mcanns good they make the mcanns look worse  imo and the truth is the mccans   care nill about  their supporters  they dont even read  fb and twitter according to the  mcanns