Shrien Dewani trial commences in Capetown.

[Eleanor]

I would have thought that his best option to cover his hidden life style would have been to stay married to what appears to have been a compliant woman who was aware that he had problems.

[Holly Goodhead]

I have been sort of watching this.  And what a farce it seems to me.  The minute one of the perpetrators get's a reduced sentence for dobbing in the husband, you have to wonder if in fact the husband was guilty.

I tend to agree Eleanor.  I see so many similarities with the case of Jeremy Bamber.  Perhaps I'm just a bleeding heart liberal but I don't think so.

[Anna]

I would have thought that his best option to cover his hidden life style would have been to stay married to what appears to have been a compliant woman who was aware that he had problems.

From what I have read, she didn't want to stay married to him.

[Holly Goodhead]

I would have thought that his best option to cover his hidden life style would have been to stay married to what appears to have been a compliant woman who was aware that he had problems.

Agree.  Many years ago I had a gay next door neighbour.  He was in his 50's and I was in my 20's.  He told me he had more affairs with married men with children than gay guys!  I have no reason to disbelieve him. 

[Holly Goodhead]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2834226/Revealed-CCTV-shows-Shrien-Dewani-narcissist-hiding-deep-tensions-wife-honeymoon-murder.html

[Eleanor]

I thought  that these people often had arranged marriages.  So not necessarily in love, as it were.  So I don't know why there should be a kerfuffle about the lack of public displays of affection.  I don't particularly like public displays anyway.  And all this Body Language is just a pseudo science to me.

This comment is not intended to be Racist.  I have nothing against arranged marriages if both parties are willing.

[John]

Something happened in SA which scared and worried Anni sufficiently to warrant her telephoning her parents in Bristol just hours before she was murdered.  She wasn't able to reveal what it was at the time for some reason. 

[Holly Goodhead]

I thought  that these people often had arranged marriages.  So not necessarily in love, as it were.  So I don't know why there should be a kerfuffle about the lack of public displays of affection.  I don't particularly like public displays anyway.  And all this Body Language is just a pseudo science to me.

This comment is not intended to be Racist.  I have nothing against arranged marriages if both parties are willing.

I don't think all Hindu marriages are arranged?  I don't believe the Dewanis' marriage was arranged.  From what I've read both sets of parents seem pretty liberal.  AD grew up and was educated to degree level (engineering) in Sweden.  She then worked for Ericsson, the Swedish telecoms company, as an engineer.  I don't think she was a 'little woman'.

Apparently one of the things they argued about was her spending habits.  I wonder if she would have married SD had he not been wealthy and able to provide her and any children (apparently they were trying to conceive) with a certain lifestyle?   

[Eleanor]

I don't think all Hindu marriages are arranged?  I don't believe the Dewanis' marriage was arranged.  From what I've read both sets of parents seem pretty liberal.  AD grew up and was educated to degree level (engineering) in Sweden.  She then worked for Ericsson, the Swedish telecoms company, as an engineer.  I don't think she was a 'little woman'.

Apparently one of the things they argued about was her spending habits.  I wonder if she would have married SD had he not been wealthy and able to provide her and any children (apparently they were trying to conceive) with a certain lifestyle?

So neither of them were going to be perfect.

I simply cannot see any good reason for why he would want her bumped off.  He was what he was but decided to marry her.  He didn't have to, unless he wanted some sort of cover.  In which case, why have her bumped off.

"Let's get married because I am as queer as a coot.  And then we can go on honeymoon to South Africa, where I will meet a taxi driver on the first day there, and arrange to have you bumped off."

It hardly seems likely.

[Eleanor]

PS.  Wasn't there some mad African Police person who decided Dewani was guilty right at the beginning?  Or am I imagining things?

[Holly Goodhead]

So neither of them were going to be perfect.

I simply cannot see any good reason for why he would want her bumped off.  He was what he was but decided to marry her.  He didn't have to, unless he wanted some sort of cover.  In which case, why have her bumped off.

"Let's get married because I am as queer as a coot.  And then we can go on honeymoon to South Africa, where I will meet a taxi driver on the first day there, and arrange to have you bumped off."

It hardly seems likely.

Agreed.  He was also known as a perfectionist.  If he was going to orchestrate AD's demise surely he would have planned it a bit better.  And what would he expect for some £200 apparently the amount paid for the dirty deed.  By comparison he spent 25k on an engagement ring and 250k on the wedding. 

[Eleanor]

Agreed.  He was also known as a perfectionist.  If he was going to orchestrate AD's demise surely he would have planned it a bit better.  And what would he expect for some £200 apparently the amount paid for the dirty deed.  By comparison he spent 25k on an engagement ring and 250k on the wedding.

That's a lot of money to spend if you are going to get someone murdered.  Why bother at all?

[lane99]

...The minute one of the perpetrators get's a reduced sentence for dobbing in the husband, you have to wonder if in fact the husband was guilty.

Tongo is the only one who had direct knowledge of Dewani initiating the murder.  And Tongo actually got an INCREASED, not reduced, sentence for bringing Dewani's name into it.  Which is a very strong indication that Tongo's story is true.  To believe Tongo is framing Dewani, you have to believe he was so anxious to do so that he was willing to frame himself in the process.  There's a first time for everything, but rather unlikely, to say the least.
 

Meanwhile, the police did a very good job on this case.  They solved Anni's murder within a couple of days.

As the the trial, without question the evidence adduced by the state clearly points to Dewani's involvement in a murder conspiracy.  So, short of a travesty of justice, his application for discharge will be denied.

[Matthew Wyse]

Tongo is the only one who had direct knowledge of Dewani initiating the murder.  And Tongo actually got an INCREASED, not reduced, sentence for bringing Dewani's name into it.  Which is a very strong indication that Tongo's story is true.  To believe Tongo is framing Dewani, you have to believe he was so anxious to do so that he was willing to frame himself in the process.  There's a first time for everything, but rather unlikely, to say the least.
 

Meanwhile, the police did a very good job on this case.  They solved Anni's murder within a couple of days.

As the the trial, without question the evidence adduced by the state clearly points to Dewani's involvement in a murder conspiracy.  So, short of a travesty of justice, his application for discharge will be denied.

Wasnt he the one who claimed that Dewani boasted of involvement in the other murder of a doctor in very similar circumstances?   

http://m.facebook.com/Justice4Anni/posts/811269188923976

[Matthew Wyse]

Another point I hadnt picked up on was Tongo testified that there had been an earlier attempt to murder Anni but that it had failed and went unnoticed.  If Tongo was telling a load of porkies why bother to introduce an elaborate second scheme when he had no need to do so?


http://www.sabc.co.za/news/a/cfc4ab8046156cde8cc4ae96e5573d3a/Tongo%E2%80%99s-testimony-exanimated-in-Dewani-trial-20140411