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Offline Anna

Re: Shrien Dewani trial commences in Capetown.
« Reply #90 on: November 09, 2014, 01:03:54 PM »
First of all can I thank Anna again for posting the transcripts and the video links.  I must admit I haven't been able to keep up with proceedings so thanks to posters for their updates.

Can I ask anyone who is following the case in its entirety what they think of the evidence so far?


You are welcome John,
but I am having difficulty copying the data with this new LT

I will endeavour to do quick run through of the trial highlights. I hope any corrections will be made, where I am wrong.

I can not yet commit myself to express what I feel as it is still early days.
There is nothing much worth mentioning before Tonga took the stand
 Last week  or week before? it was reported that Dewani’s lawyer thought that  Dewani would walk free. There has been lot of evidence since then that is damning IMO.

I think that Tonga’s evidence was very revealing and it does sway my opinion away from previous doubts. Tonga was adamant that the defence accounts were all lies, which he said repeatedly. Because of the time that has passed a few details were unclear to him...but I thought irrelevant in the big picture of things.
A repeat of Pistorius tactics by the defence, I fear.

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Cousin of Anni says that she was uncomfortable with Dewani and wanted a divorce. She had thrown her engagemaent ring back at him during a disagreement over wedding plans

Bisexual?
The Judge proved to be disinterested in the sexual persuasion of dewani and the meeting for such that occurred before their marriage.
The male prostitute only proved that Dewani was not  purely heterosexual

Qwaba
Says that it was a hijack that went wrong and the  gun went off by accident….A bit muddled, but the man was very sick.

Tonga
The Taxi driver Tonga, said that he had not told the truth in his first statement to police
He still insists that Dewani paid him to set up the killing and is repeatedly calling Dewani a liar “All lies” he says.

The defence was calling Tonga a liar and also say that he was setting up Dewani to take the blame.


Defence  say that the bag  Given to Tonga (shown on CCTV) contained a Thank you card, because Dewani had requested that he set up a helicopter ride as a surprise for Annie.

Tonga said he didn’t know any pilots, so how could he arrange a helicopter flight.

 Defence say that  Tonga carried the bag as if there was something in it, despite Tonga, having put the the money in his pocket and suggested it was the card that Dewani had given him.

Tomba said that there was no card in the bag and it was just a stiff plastic bag.

The Judge had to ask Tonga to calm down and understood his frustration at the defence questioning


A video was shown as you will see, on previous page of Dewani talking to Tonga on the morning after Annie was killed.
Tonga said that he wanted to know if the job was done,,,,,,,
Dewani asked a cleaner to leave and give them privacy
Dewani is looking round to see if anyone else is in the room and Tonga  says that he told him there is a camera in the room. He looks up freezes……………See the video on previous page.

Police
Police witness said that he had a thank you card, but not money as was suggested by defence.
He said Dewani refused a counsellor because he could smell alcohol
The police officer said…. “but he is a priest”
He also said that Dewani had said nothing about a helicopter trip.


There is some dispute about who hid the ring in the taxi.
According to the police officer.


Middle man
The middle man …Hotel receptionist
 For his evidence he will be given (indemnity), but the Judge is not happy with this arrangement.

The middle man said that Tonga contacted him and said Dewani wanted his partner killed and he needed help with a hitman etc.

The middleman wanted to know how it would be done. He was not  directly involved in the killing, but needed the money.
He introduced Tonga to the hit man. Qwabe…….The one who died.

He was muddled when questioned and asked for a rest ……….Then he wept.


MItchell.
A prisoner serving time in prison with Tonga has testified after informing the Dewani lawyer, that the murderer told him that it was a kidnapping gone wrong and ended up being a murder.

Tonga said it was nothing, but prison talk
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This is as I remember, but if you are reading and find a detail incorrect  I would appreciate corrections  and adding of any detail of importance that is missed.


“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Shrien Dewani trial commences in Capetown.
« Reply #91 on: November 09, 2014, 02:11:49 PM »
First of all can I thank Anna again for posting the transcripts and the video links.  I must admit I haven't been able to keep up with proceedings so thanks to posters for their updates.

Can I ask anyone who is following the case in its entirety what they think of the evidence so far?

Yes thank you again Anna for all the updates.

I haven't spent the time necessary to come to a firm conclusion but on the surface I think the case against SD seems weak.  In fact I see many similarities with JB's case so perhaps you will not want to rely on my views!

I struggle to comprehend a chartered accountant by profession arriving in a country he seems to have no prior connection with, or contacts in, and arranges his new wife's murder via a chance meeting with a taxi driver.  The sum agreed was something like a couple of hundred pounds.  SD was known to be a perfectionistic and yet all this seems to have been arranged on the back of a fag packet.  What was he expecting for circa £200?  By comparison some 250k was spent on the wedding.  I think it was a robbery and possibly a rape that went wrong. 

I think people are swayed by SD's lifestyle.  I would imagine by most peoples' standards the thought of a newly wed attractive young man, with an equally attractive young wife, continuing to get his rocks off with an overweight, balding, plain looking (politically correct word for ugly) middle aged German man for some pain and pleasure is a bit unfathomable  &%+((£  Plus the continual viewing of gay sub porn.  I agree with the judge though I think this is all irrelevant.

Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Anna

Re: Shrien Dewani trial commences in Capetown.
« Reply #92 on: November 09, 2014, 02:29:08 PM »
Yes thank you again Anna for all the updates.

I haven't spent the time necessary to come to a firm conclusion but on the surface I think the case against SD seems weak.  In fact I see many similarities with JB's case so perhaps you will not want to rely on my views!

I struggle to comprehend a chartered accountant by profession arriving in a country he seems to have no prior connection with, or contacts in, and arranges his new wife's murder via a chance meeting with a taxi driver.  The sum agreed was something like a couple of hundred pounds.  SD was known to be a perfectionistic and yet all this seems to have been arranged on the back of a fag packet.  What was he expecting for circa £200?  By comparison some 250k was spent on the wedding.  I think it was a robbery and possibly a rape that went wrong. 

I think people are swayed by SD's lifestyle.  I would imagine by most peoples' standards the thought of a newly wed attractive young man, with an equally attractive young wife, continuing to get his rocks off with an overweight, balding, plain looking (politically correct word for ugly) middle aged German man for some pain and pleasure is a bit unfathomable  &%+((£  Plus the continual viewing of gay sub porn.  I agree with the judge though I think this is all irrelevant.

Thank you Holly
It is a difficult one, but the recent evidence and video, have me wondering why Dewani was meeting the Taxi driver in a Hotel the morning after her murder. I also couldn't get my head around ,him going shopping whilst Anni's body was going through a traditional ceremony with the family (except him).
Why would Tongo, lie................What would he gain from saying he arranged the killing(which he had not been fully paid for)?
 It is complicated.
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline puglove

Re: Shrien Dewani trial commences in Capetown.
« Reply #93 on: November 09, 2014, 02:52:13 PM »
Yes thank you again Anna for all the updates.

I haven't spent the time necessary to come to a firm conclusion but on the surface I think the case against SD seems weak.  In fact I see many similarities with JB's case so perhaps you will not want to rely on my views!

I struggle to comprehend a chartered accountant by profession arriving in a country he seems to have no prior connection with, or contacts in, and arranges his new wife's murder via a chance meeting with a taxi driver.  The sum agreed was something like a couple of hundred pounds.  SD was known to be a perfectionistic and yet all this seems to have been arranged on the back of a fag packet.  What was he expecting for circa £200?  By comparison some 250k was spent on the wedding.  I think it was a robbery and possibly a rape that went wrong. 

I think people are swayed by SD's lifestyle.  I would imagine by most peoples' standards the thought of a newly wed attractive young man, with an equally attractive young wife, continuing to get his rocks off with an overweight, balding, plain looking (politically correct word for ugly) middle aged German man for some pain and pleasure is a bit unfathomable  &%+((£  Plus the continual viewing of gay sub porn.  I agree with the judge though I think this is all irrelevant.



www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc
Jeremy Bamber kicked Mike Tesko in the fanny.

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Shrien Dewani trial commences in Capetown.
« Reply #94 on: November 09, 2014, 03:09:54 PM »


www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc

OMG perhaps there's something wrong with my thinking? 8)><(

Some amazing similarities with JB's case.  If SD is acquitted I'll do a thread.  If he's found guilty I will keep quiet revaluate my position on JB!

May I ask what Myster's views are on this case?
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Anna

Re: Shrien Dewani trial commences in Capetown.
« Reply #95 on: November 09, 2014, 04:50:36 PM »
A few reports that might help with understanding what happened in court



“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline Anna

Re: Shrien Dewani trial commences in Capetown.
« Reply #96 on: November 09, 2014, 04:56:44 PM »
OMG perhaps there's something wrong with my thinking? 8)><(

Some amazing similarities with JB's case.  If SD is acquitted I'll do a thread.  If he's found guilty I will keep quiet revaluate my position on JB!

May I ask what Myster's views are on this case?

Please don't cry Holly.
 I think a thread with comparisons to JB would be a good idea..............Look forward to that if he is acquitted, that is.
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline Myster

Re: Shrien Dewani trial commences in Capetown.
« Reply #97 on: November 09, 2014, 05:28:54 PM »
OMG perhaps there's something wrong with my thinking? 8)><(

Some amazing similarities with JB's case.  If SD is acquitted I'll do a thread.  If he's found guilty I will keep quiet revaluate my position on JB!

May I ask what Myster's views are on this case?
Not been following it Holls, because I was so disappointed watching Pistorius get off that I expect the Dewani trial to go the same way.

And if you really think Shren Dewani's good-looking then I'm a fat balding beer-bellied gay escort!
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Tim Invictus

Re: Shrien Dewani trial commences in Capetown.
« Reply #98 on: November 10, 2014, 12:48:18 AM »
Cut and dried
Open and shut
Banged to rights
Guilty as sin
There's more chance of Bamber being innocent or SAS 'Gav' actually existing than Dewani being innocent ... imho!

Offline Anna

Re: Shrien Dewani trial commences in Capetown.
« Reply #99 on: November 10, 2014, 01:05:05 PM »
Part 1


  Nov 10, 2014 12:33 
By Sam Adams
 
10:38 am


Mbolombo: 'They met to discuss how she was going to be killed"



The scene where Anni Dewani was murdered in Cape Town, South Africa (Pic: Getty)
The scene where Anni Dewani was murdered in Cape Town, South Africa (Pic: Getty)
 

Van Zyl asks Mbolombo whether he arranged a time for his meeting with Qwabe.

He replies that he didn't.

Van Zyl: "Why did you text Qwabe shortly after this call?"

Mbolombo said he was telling him that Zola Tongo "said he will be on his way to Khayelitsha and asked if Zola told him."

Van Zyl: "What did he say?

Mbolombo: "He said Zola hadn't told him yet. I said that we must meet but I have to go to work late afternoon."

Van Zyl asks why he said "we must meet?"

Mbolombo: "Because Zola and Abongile [Qwabe] didn't know each other and I had to introduce them.

Van Zyl asks Mbolombo what was going to be discussed?

Mbolombo: "I think the manner in which the later would be killed."



10:09 am


Mbolombo: 'They wanted gloves so their fingerprints didn't get on vehicle'

Van Zyl questions Mbolombo over he alleged knowledge of a motor vehicle.

Mbolombo said that no-one told him about a motor vehicle "other than Abongile [killer Mziwamadoda Qwabe] saying they need gloves so that their fingerprints were not on the vehicle."

Van Zyl said that means that Qwabe knew there was going to be a vehicle involved.

Mbolombo: "I'd say that."

Van Zyl said: "Did you ask him?"

Mbolombo replies that he didn't ask him.

Van Zyl: "You see Tongo says at that time he didn't know what was going to happen, that the person had to be killed."

Mbolombo replied that what Tongo said, "was said on his behalf, and I won't answer to that."

Mbolombo said "I am answering on my behalf."



9:54 am


Van Zyl: 'Did you know it was going to be a hijacking?'



 
Trial: Dewani and Anni had only been married a few weeks when she was killed
 

Van Zyl is pressing Mbolombo over his alleged role in the planning of Anni's murder.

He asks Mbolombo whether he knew there was going to be a hijacking?

Mbolombo replies: "I knew when Zola came to fetch me at work."

VZ: "We're talking about 10:30 that morning."

Mbolombo said that he didn't know at that point.

Van Zyl: "Mr Mbolombo, how was this woman going to be killed. What did you know at 10:30 that morning."

Mbolombo said he knew that Abongile "and others wanted gloves to hide their fingerprints. That's what I knew. "



9:43 am


Mbolombo 'they needed gloves to hide fingerprints'



 
Gunman: Qwabe (left), Dewani (top right) and Anni
 

Mbolombo is discussing meeting with Zola Tongo in Khayelitsha township.

He said he knew Zola was coming to meet "and they needed gloves to hide fingerprints."

Van Zyl: "Did you know it was going to be a hijacking?"

MM: "I knew when Zola came to fetch me at work."

VZ: "We're talking about 10:30 that morning.

MM: I didn't know then."

Mbolombo repeated that what he knew was that 'Abongile' and others wanted gloves to hide their fingerprints.



9:28 am


Van Zyl questions Mbolombo about texts he sent to Qwabe



Millionaire Shrien Dewani
Marriage: Shrien with his wife Anni, 28. She was murdered as the couple honeymooned in South Africa
 

Defence barrister Van Zyl is questioning Mbolombo about a text conversation he had with Qwabe.

He asks Mbolombo whether he remembers the conversation.

Mbolombo: "Those are call back messages."

Van Zyl: "And then Qwabe calls you and spoke for 51 secs. Is it during this call that he asked you for gloves?"

Mbolombo: "I'd say that."

Van Zyl said that "means he wanted at least two pairs of gloves, I presume."

Mbolombo said he was sure about that but I know they wanted gloves.

Van Zyl: "You say they. Who are they?

Mbolombo replies that he was referring to Qwabe.

Van Zyl asks why Mbolombo would refer to Qwabe as 'they?'

Mbolombo: "Let's just say it's the manner in which I spoke."



9:19 am


Mbolombo: 'The gloves were to hide the fingerprints'




Noble/Draper The taxi that Anni Dewani was shot dead inside in 2010

Killing: Taxi Anni Dewani was shot dead inside
 

Mbolombo said he was having a conversation with Zola Tongo.

Mbolombo: "I just cannot remember the time. I was telling Tongo what Abongile said that you must look for gloves.

"The gloves were going to be used to hide fingerprints."

Van Zyl asks Mbolombo what Tongo said in response to this.

Mbolombo: "He said he was going to try."

Van Zyl: "This phone call was made at 16:02. Would you agree with that?"

Mbolombo: "I agree."

Van Zyl said: "Let's call it 4pm. When did Qwabe ask you about gloves?"

MM: "He asked me about that in the morning at about 10:30."



9:05 am


Van Zyl grills Mbolombo over Tongo




PA Mziwamadoda Qwabe

Mziwamadoda Qwabe: One of the men convicted of murdering Anni
 

Van Zyl is continuing to grill Mbolombo.

He is asking Mbolombo about an alleged conversation he had with Zola Tongo. 

Van Zyl: "You told the court that Saturday in the car, Mr Tongo told you that this is not the first time he did this in South Africa.

"And it should look like a hijacking. You remember this?"

Mbolombo replies that this is correct.

Van Zyl asks whether this was before or after the call he received from the accused to which he said "I'm on my way".

Mbolombo said it was "before Zola received that call."

Van Zyl asks Mbolombo whether he is very sure of this "because Mr Tongo didn't tell the court that in evidence."

Mbolombo: "It's pretty clear he didn't tell the truth.

VZ: "The accused has never been in the country before."

Mbolombo: "I'm just saying something that I was told by Tongo."



8:47 am


Van Zyl: 'So you just made the name Abongile up?'



Anni with her cousin Sneha Mashru one of the main prosecution witnesses.
Anni with her cousin Sneha Mashru, who is one of the main prosecution witnesses
 

Mbolombo is still on the stand being questioned by defence barrister Van Zyl about his use of the name Abongile for Qwabe:

Van Zyl says to Mbolombo: "You used the name, you had to stick to it right through?

Mbolombo: "It's not like that, My Lady.

Van Zyl: "So it was just a name you made up? That's the name you gave police and the name you used.

Mbolombo said that is correct.

Van Zyl asks him whether there is any reason "why you kept on using that name even though his name is Mziwamadoda Qwabe?"

Mbolombo: "There is no particular reason for keeping on with that name, but since I started using it, I continued using it."



8:36 am


Van Zyl: 'Were you trying to protect Qwabe?'



Shrien Dewani and Zola Tongo
Trial: Shrien Dewani and Zola Tongo
 

Dewani's defence barrister Francois Van Zyl is continuing to question Mbolombo about his use of the name Abongile during his evidence.

Van Zyl: "You told the police that after your discussion with Tongo, you gave the number of "someone I know as Abongile."

MM: "That is correct."

VZ: "When you told the police that, was that not an attempt on your part to protect Qwabe?"



8:27 am


Judge: 'So you made his name up'



 
Gunman: Qwabe (left), Dewani (top right) and Anni
 

Dewani's defence barrister Francois Van Zyl is still grilling Monde Mbolombo.

VZ: But why not call him by his real name?

MM: Since I used his name in the first statement, Abongile, and when I referred in court, they asked me. I said yes.

Judge Jeanette Traverso: Where did you get the name Abongile from? Is it something you made up?

MM: Since it was some time since the two of us met, there was a certain guy, I didn't remember his name so I added an 'A' to save his number.

Traverso: So you made it up?

MM: Yes.



8:12 am


Mbolombo is back on the stand

Mbolombo is back on the stand.

Leigh-Anne Jansen reports from court:

Dewani's defence barrister Francois Van Zyl (VZ) said: "Just a few loose ends, when you made your first statement to police, you referred to Qwabe as Abongile.




Mbolombo: "That's correct.

VZ: "And you called him Abongile in all your statements.

MM: "Correct.

VZ: "Qwabe says he's never been called Abongile. He doesn't know the name.

MM: "When I met him at the beach, it was a long time since we saw each other, so I didn't want to ask him what his real name is.



8:01 am


Mbolombo 'warned to tell truth'




Gallo Images / Barcroft Shrien Dewani arrives at the Western Cape High Court

Shrien Dewani arrives at the Western Cape High Court
 

Mbolombo, who was given indemnity against prosecution during a previous trial connected to Anni's death, when the now deceased Xolile Mngeni was convicted of Anni's murder.

Mngeni died two weeks ago while serving 18 years for his part in the killing.

But Judge Jeanette Traverso said she was not convinced that that necessarily applies to every matter in Dewani's trial.

The witness was warned he would have to be truthful and convincing in his evidence, otherwise he may face serious charges.

As such, he admitted lying previously, both during earlier statements and the Mngeni trial.



7:42 am


Mbolombo revealed conversation with killer



Shrien and Anna Dewani CCTV footage from hotel released in 2012
Shrien and Anna Dewani CCTV footage from hotel released in 2012
 

Mbolombo told the court that it was he who connected the driver with one of the killers, Mziwamadoda Qwabe, who he referred to as Abongile. Qwabe pleaded guilty to her murder in August 2012 and was sentenced to 25 years in prison.

Describing a conversation the pair had at the hotel he worked at, he said: "I said to him there's a guy here, Zola, who is looking for someone to do a job. He enquired what kind of job.

"I said he is looking for a hitman. Zola was at reception. There were people at reception who understood Xhosa, and because this conversation relates to a hitman, I didn't want them to hear.

"I called Abongile because I thought of the conversation at the beach and people he was with. I didn't expect that he would do the job himself."



7:28 am


Mbolombo 'discussed money for alleged hit'



 
Case: Dewani (left) and Anni with her cousin Sneha Mashru (right)
 

Last week the Dewani Mbolombo told the hearing in Cape Town that he had been promised a share of the 15,000 rand (roughly £850) Dewani allegedly paid for the hit, and that he had discussed the money with Tongo before hand.

Answering questions yesterday, Mbolombo said: "As we were having this conversation, he informed me that he will place the money in the cubbyhole [of the couple's taxi].

"At the time when all of this happened, I was in financial problems, so we were not thinking how precious a person's life was.

"In my language, there is a saying that no price can be put on a life. We fell into this trap because we were thinking about money, not how precious a life is."



7:14 am


Monde Mbolombo to take the stand




PA CCTV still of Monde Mbolombo on the phone to Zola Tongo, as the the BBC programme investigates the death of 28-year-old Anni Dewani

Footage: CCTV still of Monde Mbolombo allegedly on the phone to Zola Tongo on the BBC's Panorama programme
 

The middle-man accused of helping arrange the murder of honeymoon bride Anni Dewani broke down in tears under questioning today.

Monde Mbolombo, the man accused of finding hit men to kill Anni in South Africa, was on the stand during Shrien Dewani's trial for the second day.

While being cross examined by defence lawyer Francois Van Zyl, Mbolombo told the judge he was 'tired' and becoming confused.

Mbolombo is giving evidence under the threat of further prosecution for his role in the killing despite previously having been given idenmnity.



7:02 am


Trial continues this morning

The trial of British honeymoon murder suspect businessman Shrien Dewani continues today.

Today in Western Cape High Court is due to feature the cross-examination of a hotel receptionist who played a role in the murder of Dewani's wife Anni Hindocha

Dewani's lawyer Francois van Zyl started cross-examining Monde Mbolombo, on Friday.

Mbolombo admitted last week that he had lied about various details in his previous statements and testimony.

Dewani is accused of plotting the murder of Anni during their honeymoon in South Africa in 2010.

She was shot dead when their car was ambushed in Cape Town.

Shrien returned to the UK following the tragedy but was extradited to face charges of orchestrating her killing.

He has pleaded not guilty to the five counts against him, maintaining that the couple were the victims of a hijacking on November 13, 2010.

Anni's body was found in an abandoned shuttle taxi in Khayelitsha the following day.

The State alleges Dewani paid R15 000 to arrange the hijacking and murder.
      

 





“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline John

Re: Shrien Dewani trial commences in Capetown.
« Reply #100 on: November 10, 2014, 01:24:54 PM »
Many thanks again for the brief summary of the case Anna. 

What strikes me is that if it had simply been a hijacking gone wrong there would not be all these characters involved with Dewani.  And furthermore, had Dewani agreed at the outset to face the issues head-on instead of deliberately obstructing the South African authorities I would have considered the case at least suspicious.  As it is I feel he does have a case to answer.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Anna

Re: Shrien Dewani trial commences in Capetown.
« Reply #101 on: November 10, 2014, 02:23:15 PM »
Part 2 Monday 10th nov

reading from bottom up


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/shrien-dewani-trial-live-updates-4601912


 
Shrien Dewani trial: Live updates from court as honeymoon murder case continues
 

   


  Nov 10, 2014 13:59 
By Sam Adams
 

The British millionaire is on trial accused of plotting the murder of his wife Anni during their honeymoon in South Africa in 2010

1:59 pm


Mbolombo: 'Dewani knew everything from start to finish'



 
 

Defence barrister Francois Van Zyl is continuing to cross examine Monde Mbolombo.

He asks Mbolombo whether Tongo had told him they would hijack the car and drop Shrien Dewani and Anni?

Mbolombo: "Not in the car. It was Saturday evening. I don't know what time."

Van Zyl said he had information that there was an idea between all of the plotters "excluding Mr Dewani" to take this Anni for ransom.

Mbolombo said "it was not like that at all."

Van Zyl said Shrien Dewani "will say he was not involved in a conspiracy to kill his wife."

Mbolombo replied that he wanted to also tell the court that Dewani is lying.

"He knows everything from start to finish."



1:36 pm


Van Zyl: 'You knew the lady would be killed'



 
Trial: Dewani and Anni had only been married a few weeks when she was killed
 

Defence barrister Van Zyl asks whether Mbolombo tried to find out if the killing had taken place.

Molombo said he tried to make contact on the Sunday.

Van Zyl said: "I'm talking about Saturday night. You knew the lady would be killed."

Mbolombo said he doesn't deny that.

Van Zyl asks him if anyone had reported to him whether the operation had been a "success."

Mbolombo said "no." He said he did not try to find out on the Saturday evening, even though he wanted to know what had happened.

Molombo told the court that he had agreed that if the police asked him any questions he would say "I don't know."

When asked whether he had discussed placing the blame on Shrien Dewani he said no.

Van Zyl asks him whether he had anything to do with the arrangements to have the Anni Dewani killed?

Mbolombo: "That's correct, because Tongo told me."



1:12 pm


Van Zyl to Mbolombo: 'You were very much in charge'




Getty Shrien Dewani arrives at the Western Cape High Court

Trial: Shrien Dewani is on trial for murder in Cape Town
 

Shrien Dewani's defence barrister Francois Van Zyl puts it to Mbolombo that he knew that on Saturday afternoon (November 13, 2010) the car Shrien Dewani and Anni were travelling in would be hijacked and a woman taken and killed.

Van Zyl disputes Mbolombo's story that he had spoken by phone with taxi driver Zola Tongo while Tongo was in a restaurant with the Dewanis.

Mbolomo replies that what he said "in relation to time is the truth."

Van Zyl said: "What I am saying is that you, sir, were very much in charge."

Mbolombo agrees with him.



12:33 pm


Van Zyl quizzed Mbolombo about the day of the murder




Enterprise news and pictures Anni Dewani

Shooting: Shrien Dewani is on trial accused of murdering wife Anni Dewani (pictured)
 

Van Zyl is quizzing Mbolombo about the day of the murder.

Van Zyl: "Can you tell the court, the call when [taxi driver Zola Tongo] told you he's with the couple [Shrien and Anni Dewani] at the restaurant. When was that call made?"

Mbolombo said it was late in the evening and that he couldn't remember the exact time.

Van Zyl: "I do not see a call where you called Tongo other than [6.38pm] where he could explain he's sitting at a table with the couple."

Mbolomo said he did receive a call where Tongo told him that.

"I'm not sure if he made the call or I made the call," Mbolombo said.



12:19 pm


Mbolombo: 'We were talking about planning to kill this woman'




PA Mziwamadoda Qwabe

Mziwamadoda Qwabe: One of the men convicted of murdering Anni
 

Shrien Dewani's defence barrister Francois Van Zyl resumes his cross-examination of state witness Monde Mbolombo.

Mbolombo admitted before lunch that he had made efforts to ensure the killing went ahead.

Van Zyl asks him what was said during the phone calls between him and convicted killer Mziwamadoda Qwabe.

Mbolombo: "As I mentioned, I won't be able to say exactly what was said, but it was about the planning to kill this woman."

Addressing Mbolombo, Judge Jeannette Traverso said: "the very first day you took the stand, I put it to you that you decided to take a leading role in this.

"You said yes you took a leading role. Did you maintain this leading role throughout?"

Mbolombo said that this was correct.

Van Zyl said the calls confirm that Mbolombo had a leading role in the plot.

"I don't dispute that," Mbolombo said.



11:53 am


Mbolombo: 'It was a matter of MUST that it happened that Saturday'

Mbolombo said what he knew was that "it was a matter of MUST - that it [the killing] had to happen that Saturday."

Traverso: "I'm going to ask you the last time. Who said it was a matter of must?"

"Tongo," Mbolombo replied.

Referring to a phone call between Mbolombo and Qwabe, Van Zyl said: "It's that thing we talked about, it must happen today."

Van Zyl: "What were you referring to?"

Mbolombo: "What I was saying is this lady had to be killed on that day, Saturday."

Van Zyl asked Molombo why he said that to Qwabe at that time.

Molombo: "Maybe he had doubts, that's why."

Shrien Dewani's trial continues.



11:51 am


Recap on this morning's session

The alleged 'link man' in the plot to murder Anni Dewani has told a court how he made sure the killing took place.

Former hotel receptionist Monde Mbolombo made the chilling admission this morning during the ongoing trial of British millionaire Shrien Dewani.

Dewani is accused of plotting the murder of his wife Anni during their honeymoon in South Africa in 2010. She was shot dead when their car was ambushed in Cape Town.

Three men, taxi driver Zola Tongo, Mziwamadoda Qwabe and Xolile Mngeni, 23, were jailed for Anni's murder.

Mbolombo struck a deal with prosecutors in the cases of others involved in the plot.




PA CCTV still of Monde Mbolombo on the phone to Zola Tongo, as the the BBC programme investigates the death of 28-year-old Anni Dewani




Under cross-examination this morning by Dewani's defence barrister Francois Van Zyl, Mbolombo detailed his conversation with Tongo, about the plan to kill Anni.

Mbolombo: "That's what I asked him long ago, on the way to my work. I asked him why it was necessary that it happens that night."

Mbolombo said he told Tongo it must happen on Saturday.

Van Zyl tells Mbolombo that this suggests he was "taking control" of the plot. "You were giving instructions," he said.

Mbolombo agreed with this and said "I was making sure the job was done. Since there was money to be received, I wanted to make sure it happened."

Judge Jeanette Traverso asked Mbolombo whether he was only going to get money after it happened?

Mbolombo said what he knew was that "it was a matter of MUST - that it had to happen that Saturday."

Traverso: "I'm going to ask you the last time. Who said it was a matter of must?"

"Tongo," Mbolombo replied.



11:11 am


Van Zyl: 'You were taking control here, giving instructions'



 
 

Shrien Dewani's defence barrister Francois Van Zyl continued to grill state witness Mbolombo before lunch.

He asked Mbolombo when he discussed Anni's murder with Tongo?

Mbolombo: "That's what I asked him long ago, on the way to my work. I asked him why it was necessary that it happens that night."

Van Zyl: "In the car, that Saturday afternoon, sir, Tongo was explaining to you, I presume that there was going to be a false hijacking that night. Did he say what time?"

Mbolombo said he told Tongo it must happen on Saturday.

Van Zyl tells Mbolombo that he was "taking control here. You were giving instructions."

Mbolombo agreed with this and said "I was making sure the job was done."

"Since there was money to be received, I wanted to make sure it happened."

Judge Traverso asked whether he was only going to get money after it happened?

Mbolombo said what he knew was that "it was a matter of MUST, that it had to happen that Saturday."

Traverso: "I'm going to ask you the last time. Who said it was a matter of must?"

Mbolombo: "Tongo."

Traverso: When?

Mbolombo: "When we were driving to my work, My Lady."



11:01 am


Mbolombo: 'I said this lady had to be killed on Saturday'



 
Holiday: Shrien and Anni Dewani at their hotel
 

Mbolombo has been questioned by Van Zyl on his alleged role in the planning of Anni's murder.

Referring to his contact with Zola Tongo and Qwabe - Van Zyl said: "Your contact was mainly driven by curiosity. That right?

Mbolombo said that is correct.

Referring to a phone call between Mbolombo and Qwabe, Van Zyl said: "It's that thing we talked about, it must happen today."

Van Zyl: "What were you referring to?"

Mbolombo: "What I was saying is this lady had to be killed on that day, Saturday."

Van Zyl asked Molombo why he said that to Qwabe at that time.

Molombo: "Maybe he had doubts, that's why."

Van Zyl: "But you were not involved in the arrangements, as I understand you. That was between Qwabe and Tongo, right?

Mbolombo said that is correct.

Van Zyl asked Mbolombo why he told Qwabe "at about 21:30" that the job had to be done?

Mbolombo said this is what was discussed between him and Tongo.

"He told me that this must happen that Saturday night."



10:42 am


Lunchtime recap part 2



 
 

Mbolombo replied: "I excluded whatever involved me."

Care home tycoon Dewani, 34, from Westbury-on-Trym, is on trial for allegedly plotting with Tongo, Mziwamadoda Qwabe and gunman Xolile Mngeni to kill Anni while they were on their honeymoon.

He has pleaded not guilty to charges including kidnapping, murder and defeating the ends of justice.

He claims the couple were hijacked as Tongo was driving them through Gugulethu in his minibus on Saturday November 13. He was released unharmed and Anni was driven away. She was found shot dead in the abandoned minibus in Khayelitsha the next morning.

Tongo is serving an 18-year jail term while Qwabe is part-way through a 25-year sentence for their roles in the murder. Mngeni was serving life in jail for firing the shot that killed Anni but died in prison from a brain tumour on October 18.

Prosecutors claim Dewani conspired with others to stage the hijacking, offering them 15,000 rand - less than £1,000 at the 2010 exchange rate.

But Dewani maintains that Tongo helped him organise a surprise helicopter trip for Anni for 15,000 rand and that he knew nothing about his wife's planned kidnap and murder.

Dewani denies all charges.

The trial, which is listed to last until mid-December, continues.



10:40 am


Lunchtime recap part 1




PA CCTV still of Monde Mbolombo on the phone to Zola Tongo, as the the BBC programme investigates the death of 28-year-old Anni Dewani

Footage: CCTV still of Monde Mbolombo allegedly on the phone to Zola Tongo on the BBC's Panorama programme
 

A hotel receptionist dubbed "the link man" in a plot to murder the wife of a millionaire from the Bristol area on their honeymoon has admitted inconsistencies in his evidence to a South African court.

Monde Mbolombo admitted he attempted to "protect himself" when giving varied accounts about apparent "hit money" involved in the death of Anni Dewani, 28, in a rough suburb of Cape Town in November 2010.

Mbolombo was told that he may no longer be immune from prosecution, having struck a deal with prosecutors in the cases of others involved in the plot.

Three men have already been convicted. Bristol-based entrepreneur Shrien Dewani is currently on trial for the murder.

Mbolombo told Western Cape High Court he would give the whole truth during this testimony after admitting he had lied in two statements and in previous disclosures to minimise his role in Anni's murder.

During his evidence-in-chief on Thursday he said he spoke to his accomplice, shuttle taxi driver Zola Tongo, about the possibility of a 5000 rand (£280) commission.

Defence counsel Francois van Zyl asked why this was not mentioned in his third statement which he gave in September this year, and which was said to be the "correct" one.

Mbolombo said it must have slipped his mind and that he had attempted to protect himself at the time.

Mr van Zyl asked: "Isn't the true explanation just that you are a liar?"



10:38 am


Mbolombo: 'They met to discuss how she was going to be killed"



The scene where Anni Dewani was murdered in Cape Town, South Africa (Pic: Getty)
The scene where Anni Dewani was murdered in Cape Town, South Africa (Pic: Getty)
 

Van Zyl asks Mbolombo whether he arranged a time for his meeting with Qwabe.

He replies that he didn't.

Van Zyl: "Why did you text Qwabe shortly after this call?"

Mbolombo said he was telling him that Zola Tongo "said he will be on his way to Khayelitsha and asked if Zola told him."

Van Zyl: "What did he say?

Mbolombo: "He said Zola hadn't told him yet. I said that we must meet but I have to go to work late afternoon."

Van Zyl asks why he said "we must meet?"

Mbolombo: "Because Zola and Abongile [Qwabe] didn't know each other and I had to introduce them.

Van Zyl asks Mbolombo what was going to be discussed?

Mbolombo: "I think the manner in which the later would be killed."




« Last Edit: November 10, 2014, 02:37:55 PM by Anna »
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline Anna

Re: Shrien Dewani trial commences in Capetown.
« Reply #102 on: November 10, 2014, 02:28:43 PM »
Many thanks again for the brief summary of the case Anna. 

What strikes me is that if it had simply been a hijacking gone wrong there would not be all these characters involved with Dewani.  And furthermore, had Dewani agreed at the outset to face the issues head-on instead of deliberately obstructing the South African authorities I would have considered the case at least suspicious.  As it is I feel he does have a case to answer.

Yes it appears that way John and the middle man says that Dewani knew all about it from start to finish...The only loophole is the Scene of the crime evidence and the taxi had not been thoroughly examined as they used a different car with slight seating differences to do measurements etc there was also a ballistic discrepency.

« Last Edit: November 10, 2014, 02:49:03 PM by Anna »
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline Amazon

Re: Shrien Dewani trial commences in Capetown.
« Reply #103 on: November 10, 2014, 04:45:42 PM »
Cut and dried
Open and shut
Banged to rights
Guilty as sin
There's more chance of Bamber being innocent or SAS 'Gav' actually existing than Dewani being innocent ... imho!

Have you been watching Tim?  I won't pass judgement as to whether he is or isn't guilty but as far as I can see, unless the prosecution pull something good out of the bag, on the evidence so far, SD could be found NG without even going on the stand! He's not like Pistorius, who couldn't really avoid giving testimony. SD's version, on the face of it, is reasonably possibly true (read his plea statement). All the prosecution have really attacked it with so far is the testimony of his alleged co conspirators, who have all either been already convicted of lying in this matter or in the case of Mbolombo, has admitted during testimony here, that he lied at a previous trial, despite it being a condition of his immunity!

Yes there are some things that don't make  lot of sense and there a few questions that could do with answering (like why did it take him 3 years to come up with the helicopter theory) but a bit of shifty behaviour on CCTV cameras and refusing to return to SA to stand trial does not a murderer make - well, it doesn't convict one, put it that way.

I wouldn't have returned to SA if I was accused of anything, and I have never broken the law in my life! I don't think it should be to his detriment that he didn't. Corruption is rife everywhere in SA including the CJS and justice cant be guaranteed for anyone (unless friends of Zuma lol).

More to come of course!
« Last Edit: November 10, 2014, 04:49:45 PM by Amazon »

Offline Anna

Re: Shrien Dewani trial commences in Capetown.
« Reply #104 on: November 10, 2014, 05:52:00 PM »
News and A few reminders
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Todays news from SA


who was Anni


Anni's text messages to family

Ceremony not attended



“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato