What is an 'internet troll'?

[stephen25000]

By bringing a dead woman into the discussion on a thread which is dedicated to internet trolling ... you appear to be reinforcing the connection.
That whenever her name is mentioned it includes the soubriquet TROLL cannot be comforting to the family she took the decision to leave behind ... perhaps as Lace has suggested ...it is time to allow this woman to Requiescat in pace.

I know who the trolls are.

Brenda Leyland committed no crimes.

[stephen25000]

Not everyone has the same motivations for finding out who I am

And it would be nice if you were one who did not.



But the clues they have given out

 *&*%£



The Police are aware.

How do we know that ?

Have you broadcast your name and address ?

[Miss Taken Identity]

By bringing a dead woman into the discussion on a thread which is dedicated to internet trolling ... you appear to be reinforcing the connection.
That whenever her name is mentioned it includes the soubriquet TROLL cannot be comforting to the family she took the decision to leave behind ... perhaps as Lace has suggested ...it is time to allow this woman to Requiescat in pace.

Brenda was joyfully 'outed as a nasty troll'  in the MSN  BY people like you who support the McCANNS.  Not happy about that? well if the show fits...

[sadie]

How do we know that ?

Have you broadcast your name and address ?

No, it has been ferreted out.


Anyway, stephen, I am off now.


Loads to do

Take care

[sadie]

Brenda was joyfully 'outed as a nasty troll'  in the MSN  BY people like you who support the McCANNS.  Not happy about that? well if the show fits...

I dont think Brietta did ... and neither did I.


But not knowing her vulnerability, I would have happily reported her based on what I have heard that she kept saying.

I hate bullies.

[stephen25000]

No, it has been ferreted out.


Anyway, stephen, I am off now.


Loads to do

Take care

Likewise Sadie.

Time for the Ashes.

[Lace]

Wrong.

CAan you prove I have supported every post he has made ?

You really mustn't lie Lace.

As to the '.........', it is known which forums they post on.

You never posted that you disagreed with this poster,  sometimes you joined in with this poster,  I am not lying.

Stephen you know what I am talking about don't try and say otherwise.

Stop bringing the dossier into every discussion about trolls,  this dossier as you know was compiled because the person/s were worried about the escalating  threats made to the McCann's,  if you listened to the video,  the person said that they were worried in case someone carried out one of the threats,  you don't know who is reading twitter Stephen,  someone could have gotten it into his/her head that something needed to be done against the McCann's and have acted on one of the threats.

No doubt if threats like these were said about say Amaral for instance,  then someone would do something about it.

As for Brenda Leyland she was mentally unbalanced she had attempted suicide before,   it is sad that she found companionship with a group of people who spent their time, threatening and abusing the McCann family,  she felt needed no doubt,  egged on by these people and awarded with their praise.

Who knows if she would have committed suicide if the dossier hadn't been compiled.   Could be that something could have gone wrong on one of the forums or twitter one of the so called friends could have argued with her [actually did some turn against her?]    and that could have been enough to send her into despair.   Also she had family problems,  neighbour problems,   we can only speculate.

What I find disgusting though is that this woman is being used to fight battles,  when she should be left to RIP her family should be respected too.

[G-Unit]

I see things differently to you.

Brenda bullied anonymously.  She proved herself to be weak by doing that and taking her own life, when she realised that the world would know who said all the awful things that she did.

She could smack out the vilifications, but she couldn't take it that the world would know that she was responsible.


Very sad that she was vulnerable.  But the fact fremains that what she did was morally wrong and had she not taken her life, who knows if the Police might have prosecuted her.


After someone dies, easiest and cheapest  for the police to not persue it.

A bully uses physical strength or some sort of influence to intimidate weaker people or to force them to do something. Brenda Leyland relied on neither physical strength nor influence, so not a bully.

She did nothing criminal, so suggesting that the police may have prosecuted her had she lived is completely incorrect. I hope you're not trying to start a myth Sadie.

Absolutely anyone can post on the internet anonymously. Some will be vulnerable, but they probably don't think they are. It's best to give everyone the benefit of the doubt in my opinion just in case. That's why I prefer not to question people's intelligence or their moral fibre. I don't know them or their circumstances so I will challenge what they say, but won't attack them as people.

[Brietta]

Brenda was joyfully 'outed as a nasty troll'  in the MSN  BY people like you who support the McCANNS.  Not happy about that? well if the show fits...

It has never been my practice to speak ill of the dead (with obvious exclusions such as Mengistu Haile Mariam) so you will not pull me into any such discussion ... that may be the problem with trolls, they have no standards and no manners, they don't really mind who they malign ... the more vulnerable the better they like it.

They will always be with us.
What is particularly despicable is when they organise themselves into a pack for no other reason than to lambaste chosen victims in any which way they can.

[G-Unit]

It has never been my practice to speak ill of the dead (with obvious exclusions such as Mengistu Haile Mariam) so you will not pull me into any such discussion ... that may be the problem with trolls, they have no standards and no manners, they don't really mind who they malign ... the more vulnerable the better they like it.

They will always be with us.
What is particularly despicable is when they organise themselves into a pack for no other reason than to lambaste chosen victims in any which way they can.

Please define your meaning of the word 'troll'. Unless you do that it's not clear who you're referring to.

[Alfred R Jones]

A bully uses physical strength or some sort of influence to intimidate weaker people or to force them to do something. Brenda Leyland relied on neither physical strength nor influence, so not a bully.

She did nothing criminal, so suggesting that the police may have prosecuted her had she lived is completely incorrect. I hope you're not trying to start a myth Sadie.

Absolutely anyone can post on the internet anonymously. Some will be vulnerable, but they probably don't think they are. It's best to give everyone the benefit of the doubt in my opinion just in case. That's why I prefer not to question people's intelligence or their moral fibre. I don't know them or their circumstances so I will challenge what they say, but won't attack them as people.

Do you not believe it is possible to bully and intimidate someone via social media? 

[Eleanor]

We all know that this is happening, and has been for eight years now.  Whether or not it is a punishable offence is entirely beside the point.  It is a disgusting way in which to carry on.

Personally, I believe that Brenda Leyland was a Troll, but there is always more to this behaviour than first appears.  They all appear to have mental health issues and very sad and lonely lives.  And I feel sorry about that.

[Alfred R Jones]

We all know that this is happening, and has been for eight years now.  Whether or not it is a punishable offence is entirely beside the point.  It is a disgusting way in which to carry on.

Personally, I believe that Brenda Leyland was a Troll, but there is always more to this behaviour than first appears.  They all appear to have mental health issues and very sad and lonely lives.  And I feel sorry about that.

There is no doubt whatsoever that Brenda engaged in bullying behaviour, not least towards a woman she believed to be an OC nanny.  Her behaviour was despicable in this regard, and generally unpleasant in many other respects.  She was a foolish woman who paid the ultimate price for the shame she brought upon herself and her family.  Sad but true.

[sadie]

A bully uses physical strength or some sort of influence to intimidate weaker people or to force them to do something. Brenda Leyland relied on neither physical strength nor influence, so not a bully.

She did nothing criminal, so suggesting that the police may have prosecuted her had she lived is completely incorrect. I hope you're not trying to start a myth Sadie.

Absolutely anyone can post on the internet anonymously. Some will be vulnerable, but they probably don't think they are. It's best to give everyone the benefit of the doubt in my opinion just in case. That's why I prefer not to question people's intelligence or their moral fibre. I don't know them or their circumstances so I will challenge what they say, but won't attack them as people.

so suggesting that the police may have prosecuted her had she lived is completely incorrect. I hope you're not trying to start a myth Sadie.


Now I dont remember saying that Gunit, but I suppose, no you mention it, that it is possible that the police might have prosecuted her..



You are not trying to start a myth that I did say it, are you Gunit?

Cos if you are, the marriage is off 

[Eleanor]

There is no doubt whatsoever that Brenda engaged in bullying behaviour, not least towards a woman she believed to be an OC nanny.  Her behaviour was despicable in this regard, and generally unpleasant in many other respects.  She was a foolish woman who paid the ultimate price for the shame she brought upon herself and her family.  Sad but true.

I am just distressed by the fact that she was distressed.  I would have supported her had I known, even though I totally disagreed with her behaviour.  There are always things you can say or do when someone needs help.
I have never walked away from anyone, even when I was tarred with the same brush by association.  And believe me, I do know what I am talking about.