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Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #1110 on: March 01, 2015, 07:25:27 PM »
Well if she didn't buy it and there is no proof of purchase....  8(0(*

I gather Helium has gained popularity (sic) as suicide method du jour.  Quick, painless, and without the hyprecapnic alarm response caused by O2 / CO2 imbalance.

So it is not impossible for even the Star to be on the right track.   

Offline Anna

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #1111 on: March 01, 2015, 07:29:54 PM »
I gather Helium has gained popularity (sic) as suicide method du jour.  Quick, painless, and without the hyprecapnic alarm response caused by O2 / CO2 imbalance.

So it is not impossible for even the Star to be on the right track.   

So the evidence would be there in the room, for the police and last inquest?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #1112 on: March 01, 2015, 07:34:33 PM »
I gather Helium has gained popularity (sic) as suicide method du jour.  Quick, painless, and without the hyprecapnic alarm response caused by O2 / CO2 imbalance.

So it is not impossible for even the Star to be on the right track.   

spot on...Many of us have experienced the hypercapnic alarm response when having gas to have a tooth extracted as children...as I pointed out last night this is because the anaesthetist turns down  the oxygen level to speed the induction of anaesthesia up...it is most unpleasant as many will remember. Helium does not cause this unpleasant response and asphyxiation is quick and not unpleasant...


Offline Mr Gray

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #1113 on: March 01, 2015, 07:36:29 PM »
So the evidence would be there in the room, for the police and last inquest?

If Brenda was discovered by a member of staff...with a bag over her head and a tank of "balloon gas" next to her it would be quite possible that it was  a member of staff that leaked the story

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Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #1114 on: March 01, 2015, 07:37:31 PM »
I gather Helium has gained popularity (sic) as suicide method du jour.  Quick, painless, and without the hyprecapnic alarm response caused by O2 / CO2 imbalance.

So it is not impossible for even the Star to be on the right track.   

I can't see even the Star printing this, If it's not true. If they have I hope they are sued by the family.
Just can't see anyone but the family having this information, before the inquest is finished. It does say recorded by Leicester Coroners Court.

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Offline Anna

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« Reply #1115 on: March 01, 2015, 07:47:57 PM »
If Brenda was discovered by a member of staff...with a bag over her head and a tank of "balloon gas" next to her it would be quite possible that it was  a member of staff that leaked the story

Of course, but to only one newspaper? And the article states "As one of the listed inquests"? Maybe someone attending the inquest, such as you said. a Hotel worker on duty at the time.
 
I didn't mind gas when having a tooth pulled, but then I am needle phobic .
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Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #1116 on: March 01, 2015, 07:57:53 PM »
Of course, but to only one newspaper? And the article states "As one of the listed inquests"? Maybe someone attending the inquest, such as you said. a Hotel worker on duty at the time.
 
I didn't mind gas when having a tooth pulled, but then I am needle phobic .

you almost certainly had Relative Analgesia which is at least 30 per cent oxygen...same as gas and air and quite a pleasant experience

Offline Eleanor

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #1117 on: March 01, 2015, 08:05:02 PM »
Of course, but to only one newspaper? And the article states "As one of the listed inquests"? Maybe someone attending the inquest, such as you said. a Hotel worker on duty at the time.
 
I didn't mind gas when having a tooth pulled, but then I am needle phobic .

I did.  It was horrible.  And I was never quite out anyway.  I felt everything.  But I suppose it was better than being wide awake.

Who knows who leaked it?  Bloody disgraceful.  Someone needs to do something about this.

Offline Anna

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« Reply #1118 on: March 01, 2015, 08:14:34 PM »
I did.  It was horrible.  And I was never quite out anyway.  I felt everything.  But I suppose it was better than being wide awake.

Who knows who leaked it?  Bloody disgraceful.  Someone needs to do something about this.

Well if this information was leaked, I hope the culprit has been warned since. It is not the sort of info to be released casually,
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Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #1119 on: March 01, 2015, 08:16:31 PM »
I did.  It was horrible.  And I was never quite out anyway.  I felt everything.  But I suppose it was better than being wide awake.

Who knows who leaked it?  Bloody disgraceful.  Someone needs to do something about this.

The leaks are no surprise.

Then how do you stop people leaking, especially if almost certainly money is involved ?

Time will tell if it is true about the Helium.

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #1120 on: March 01, 2015, 08:19:59 PM »
So the evidence would be there in the room, for the police and last inquest?

If it was suicide, then I imagine it would.  Unless the Marriott Hotel chambermaids are more efficient at tidying up than they usually are. 

Offline Anna

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #1121 on: March 01, 2015, 08:26:03 PM »
If it was suicide, then I imagine it would.  Unless the Marriott Hotel chambermaids are more efficient at tidying up than they usually are.

I believe the police were the first to enter the room, after a call from the Hotel. Maybe wrong though.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #1122 on: March 01, 2015, 08:29:20 PM »
I believe the police were the first to enter the room, after a call from the Hotel. Maybe wrong though.

The hotel wouldn't have called the police without entering the room first.....they wouldn't call the police simply because the door wasn't answerred

Offline Anna

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #1123 on: March 01, 2015, 08:38:25 PM »
The hotel wouldn't have called the police without entering the room first.....they wouldn't call the police simply because the door wasn't answerred

They do have master keys, but what if a "Do not disturb" sign was on her door and they had learnt who she was via television news? The register would have her name on it, too. We really don't know yet, how it came about .
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #1124 on: March 01, 2015, 08:43:00 PM »
They do have master keys, but what if a "Do not disturb" sign was on her door and they had learnt who she was via television news? The register would have her name on it, too. We really don't know yet, how it came about .

anything is possible..but more than likely if a maid wanted to clean a room and got no reply ...may have thought she was out...