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Offline faithlilly

Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« on: October 25, 2014, 10:26:41 PM »
Thank you to A Brewer from the Amazon forum for his interesting post.


"A. Brewer says:
Police Coroner's Officers have very specific, but very wide ranging powers, when it comes to collecting and collating all the facts relating to a sudden premature death ready for presentation to the coroner at the inquest. It will be very telling to see the full extent of the inquiries and investigations undertaken by the Coroner's Officer responsible for the Brenda Leyland case, once the inquest resumes in December.

Just to clarify for those that may not be too au fait with these types of inquiries, an inquest is an inquisitorial process, not adversarial, and it has just 3 basic tasks to complete: ascertain the identity of the deceased; determine when and where the person died; decide how the deceased died and what circumstances brought about their death.

In this particular case, personally, I would expect to see detailed evidence presented on the snitches "dossier", with statements from those that compiled it, as well as a summary of what was in the "dossier" that pertained directly to Mrs Leyland; information on when and to whom it was handed (MPS? McCanns? Sky News?) with accompanying statements from the receiving parties. I would also expect the coroner to summon some of these people to give evidence in person so that they can be cross-examined by her, or indeed by any other person who has a 'proper interest' in the inquest and who is permitted to do so by the coroner.

There may, of course, be other people who wish to submit evidence to the inquest, but whether they will be allowed to or not will always be a matter for the coroner to decide. However it is worth noting that CPS guidelines state categorically: "It is the general duty of every citizen (under common law) to attend an inquest if they are in possession of any information or evidence that details how a person came to their death."

I hope and trust that in December we shall see a full and detailed examination of the circumstances leading up to Brenda Leyland's sad and premature demise, followed by a comprehensive and determined investigation into any criminal actions and conspiracies should they be revealed by the inquiry."

For me while Sky might have been happy to give the dossier compilers anonymity I doubt the coroner will be quite so accommodating.



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Offline Benice

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2014, 07:38:51 AM »
Thank you to A Brewer from the Amazon forum for his interesting post.


"A. Brewer says:
Police Coroner's Officers have very specific, but very wide ranging powers, when it comes to collecting and collating all the facts relating to a sudden premature death ready for presentation to the coroner at the inquest. It will be very telling to see the full extent of the inquiries and investigations undertaken by the Coroner's Officer responsible for the Brenda Leyland case, once the inquest resumes in December.

Just to clarify for those that may not be too au fait with these types of inquiries, an inquest is an inquisitorial process, not adversarial, and it has just 3 basic tasks to complete: ascertain the identity of the deceased; determine when and where the person died; decide how the deceased died and what circumstances brought about their death.

In this particular case, personally, I would expect to see detailed evidence presented on the snitches "dossier", with statements from those that compiled it, as well as a summary of what was in the "dossier" that pertained directly to Mrs Leyland; information on when and to whom it was handed (MPS? McCanns? Sky News?) with accompanying statements from the receiving parties. I would also expect the coroner to summon some of these people to give evidence in person so that they can be cross-examined by her, or indeed by any other person who has a 'proper interest' in the inquest and who is permitted to do so by the coroner.

There may, of course, be other people who wish to submit evidence to the inquest, but whether they will be allowed to or not will always be a matter for the coroner to decide. However it is worth noting that CPS guidelines state categorically: "It is the general duty of every citizen (under common law) to attend an inquest if they are in possession of any information or evidence that details how a person came to their death."

I hope and trust that in December we shall see a full and detailed examination of the circumstances leading up to Brenda Leyland's sad and premature demise, followed by a comprehensive and determined investigation into any criminal actions and conspiracies should they be revealed by the inquiry."

For me while Sky might have been happy to give the dossier compilers anonymity I doubt the coroner will be quite so accommodating.

Clutching at straws IMO.

No Coroner would regard concerned members of the public reporting evidence of lawbreaking to the police as 'snitches'      Especially 'evidence' which is in the public domain for all to witness  - and which can easily be verified.
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stephen25000

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Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2014, 07:47:05 AM »
Clutching at straws IMO.

No Coroner would regard concerned members of the public reporting evidence of lawbreaking to the police as 'snitches'      Especially 'evidence' which is in the public domain for all to witness  - and which can easily be verified.

'concerned members of the public'  ???

So if these people had not handed the dossier to sky news Brenda Leyland would still be alive, wouldn't she ?


Now let's consider the people who gave the dossier to sky news, and the mccanns who gave it to the police.

Therefore direct links exist between the mccanns and these 'concerned members of the public'.


OH YES.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2014, 07:51:52 AM »
'concerned members of the public'  ???

So if these people had not handed the dossier to sky news Brenda Leyland would still be alive, wouldn't she ?


Now let's consider the people who gave the dossier to sky news, and the mccanns who gave it to the police.

Therefore direct links exist between the mccanns and these 'concerned members of the public'.


OH YES.

If Brenda hadn't tweeted 50 abusive posts a day she may still be alive

stephen25000

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Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2014, 08:00:12 AM »
If Brenda hadn't tweeted 50 abusive posts a day she may still be alive

If Madeleine hadn't disappeared, would she still be alive dave ?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2014, 08:09:16 AM »
If Madeleine hadn't disappeared, would she still be alive dave ?

If Madeleine hadn't be born she would still be alive...you can't blame everything on the McCanns...but you do and it just proves your obsession

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2014, 08:11:30 AM »
If Madeleine hadn't disappeared, would she still be alive dave ?

are you expecting the coroner to say...cause of death...Kate and Gerry Mccann

stephen25000

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Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2014, 08:21:17 AM »
are you expecting the coroner to say...cause of death...Kate and Gerry Mccann

No dave.

I am merely referring to A CHAIN OF EVENTS.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2014, 08:28:12 AM »
No dave.

I am merely referring to A CHAIN OF EVENTS.

there were lots of events in BL's life that caused her suicide

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2014, 08:37:26 AM »
are you expecting the coroner to say...cause of death...Kate and Gerry Mccann

As this is an inquest into BLs death coroner may well want to look into the abuse she was suffering online and could well use the list of dossier compilers as a way of finding those responsible for the abuse.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2014, 08:42:01 AM »
As this is an inquest into BLs death coroner may well want to look into the abuse she was suffering online and could well use the list of dossier compilers as a way of finding those responsible for the abuse.

BL was  a full time twitter troll dishing out abuse so it's no surprise she was the subject of abuse. She could have closed her account at anytime and then would have received no abuse..she chose to carry on tweeting

stephen25000

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Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2014, 08:57:08 AM »
there were lots of events in BL's life that caused her suicide

Need I remind you the cause of death has yet to be established.


Offline slartibartfast

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2014, 09:19:50 AM »
BL was  a full time twitter troll dishing out abuse so it's no surprise she was the subject of abuse. She could have closed her account at anytime and then would have received no abuse..she chose to carry on tweeting

The coroner is interested in what happened to her.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

stephen25000

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Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2014, 09:26:33 AM »
The coroner is interested in what happened to her.

Precisely.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2014, 09:31:49 AM »
The coroner is interested in what happened to her.

The inquest is a matter of course