Did the McCann"s sudden flight from Portugal engender suspicion?

[Carana]

Well it most certainly didn't help their cause.  They should have worked with the police as any innocent parent would do, encouraging the police and offering support where and when necessary.  From what I have read this investigation very quickly became a game of cat and mouse, an us and them scenario.  I will never understand how the parents of a missing child could criticise the very police charge with finding her, unless of course...

Aside from the initial impression that little appeared to be happening as conveyed by family members to the press, and that Kate had taken legal advice not to answer the arguido questions, in what way did they not encourage and support the police? There are frequent interviews from the early months in which they expressed appreciation of the efforts made by the PJ.

Slowly, however, it must have been dawning on them that something wasn't right. A normal police investigation doesn't involve drip feeding myths of your supposed guilt related to the non-established death of the chiid you're desperate to find to the unofficial police tabloid media outlets, does it?

[lizzibif]

The PJ hadn't a clue. Their only chance of solving the case was if the parents were guilty so they went with it. As  far as they were concerned statistically...they had an excellent chance of being correct.

spot on davel 

[lizzibif]

Does anyone honestly believe that The McCanns should have stayed in Portugal?

nope no way hosay &%&£(+ &%&£(+

[stephen25000]

spot on davel 

So dave's a brilliant detective as well ?

Nah on that one.

Just his personal bias to an abduction, which in terms of evidence, is lighter than a feather.

[lizzibif]

So dave's a brilliant detective as well ?

Nah on that one.

Just his personal bias to an abduction, which in terms of evidence, is lighter than a feather.

As is your opinion  %£&)**#

[ferryman]

Is that any different from Scotland Yards understanding seven years on?  They aren't looking for a live child, that much is very obvious.

People forget that the McCanns were already contemplating fleeing from Portugal the moment they realised the PJ were going to make them official suspects.  Didn't Kate admit in her book that Gerry wanted to load up the hire car and high tail it over the border to Spain?

The truth is they only delayed their exodus by a few days so as not to appear guilty.  The PJ made a huge mistake in letting any of them go until every possible avenue had been examined.

The conduct of certain members of that tapas group leaves much to be desired imo.

If the PJ understood the forensic evidence better than they made out, they'd have realised from the moment they were delivered of John Lowe's forensic report that they had nothing against the McCanns ...

[pathfinder73]

How can innocent parents be expected to work with police who have already decided they are guilty?   That makes no sense to me.    Can you explain how that would be achieved.   The police had already lied through their teeth to them about the DNA evidence - so why would you expect the McCanns to have any trust in them after that.

The McCanns reacted as any other innocent person would IMO.

You prove to them that you're not guilty by agreeing to answer all questions honestly and offer to do a reconstruction to cover and explain any discrepancies that they have in the timeline. If you do all to help then chances are they will believe you are telling the truth. Actions speak louder than words.

[stephen25000]

If the PJ understood the forensic evidence better than they made out, they'd have realised from the moment they were delivered of John Lowe's forensic report that they had nothing against the McCanns ...

The forensic analysis was simply inconclusive, as you know.

[jassi]

The forensic analysis was simply inconclusive, as you know.

So we are led to believe by the FSS experts.

[Brietta]

Is that any different from Scotland Yards understanding seven years on?  They aren't looking for a live child, that much is very obvious.

People forget that the McCanns were already contemplating fleeing from Portugal the moment they realised the PJ were going to make them official suspects.  Didn't Kate admit in her book that Gerry wanted to load up the hire car and high tail it over the border to Spain?

The truth is they only delayed their exodus by a few days so as not to appear guilty.  The PJ made a huge mistake in letting any of them go until every possible avenue had been examined.

The conduct of certain members of that tapas group leaves much to be desired imo.

The Drs McCann were made arguidos days before a change in the law would have meant the PJ would have required evidence to do so.
I rather suspect it was hoped that the aggressive questioning they were subject to would elicit a confession as it was known there was no evidence against them.

The problem then would have been similar to the Cipriano case … a confession … perhaps a conviction … but no body …

Strange that people willing to ‘confess’ to a heinous murder would find it impossible to reveal where the body is hidden … unless they just didn't know.

 â€¦ and people wonder why the Drs McCann were anxious to safeguard their family by getting them home amongst their family.

[stephen25000]

The Drs McCann were made arguidos days before a change in the law would have meant the PJ would have required evidence to do so.
I rather suspect it was hoped that the aggressive questioning they were subject to would elicit a confession as it was known there was no evidence against them.

The problem then would have been similar to the Cipriano case … a confession … perhaps a conviction … but no body …

Strange that people willing to ‘confess’ to a heinous murder would find it impossible to reveal where the body is hidden … unless they just didn't know.

 â€¦ and people wonder why the Drs McCann were anxious to safeguard their family by getting them home amongst their family.

So why do you think the PJ suspected the mccanns ?

[lizzibif]

So why do you think the PJ suspected the mccanns ?

Why do you think they did Stephen?...

[lizzibif]

Stephen likes to ask questions not answer questions put to him  %£&)**# %£&)**#

[Brietta]

Knowing what I know after just a year of looking at the ins and outs of Madeleine McCann’s case and the circumstances surrounding it … had I been her parents, I would have had myself and the twins out of there long, long before they did for my own safety and for theirs.

They were not unaware of the circumstances they were in and the direction the investigation was taking ... not into the perpetrator of the crime against madeleine ... but into them.

That they stayed until it was made impossible for them to do other than leave … says a great deal to me about their desperation to find Madeleine and to be on hand for her when that came about.

By the way, with one exception all the items below are taken from Portuguese newspapers … it took a very short search to locate them … and there are many more.

The Portuguese seem to have a thing going at the moment about dumping the bad apples from the barrel … does that make them racist?



Tortura Europa denuncia maus-tratos da polícia em Portugal

O Comité Europeu para a Prevenção da Tortura denunciou, esta casos de maus-tratos pela Polícia de Ssegurança Pública (PSP), Guarda Nacional Republicana (GNR) e Polícia Judiciária (PJ) durante as detenções e recomenda às autoridades portuguesas que continuem a esforçar-se para acabar com essas práticas.
http://www.noticiasaominuto.com/pais/65594/europa-denuncia-maus-tratos-da-pol%C3%ADcia-em-portugal#.UXiSPLvLiW4


http://algarvedailynews.com/news/3741-gnr-officers-caught-in-scrap-metal-probe


Inspetor da PJ traficava carros
Apanhado em rede criminosa de furto, viciação e desmantelamento de automóveis.
Um inspetor da Polícia Judiciária de Leiria é suspeito de estar envolvido na rede de furto, viciação e desmantelamento de carros ligeiros de mercadorias que foi desmantelada anteontem pela GNR de Leiria.                                 http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/nacional/portugal/detalhe/inspetor_da_pj_traficava_carros.html


Dois polícias culpados de crimes de recetação levam pena suspense

Os arguidos terão causado um prejuízo de cerca de meio milhão de euros.
Sinais de corrupção na judiciária

A Judiciária suspeita que existam polícias nas mãos dos barões da droga. Dois inspetores estão indiciados por receberem dinheiro de traficantes sul-americanos, facilitando a entrada de cocaína em Portugal.

As suspeitas recaem sobre dois históricos investigadores da Polícia Judiciária no combate ao tráfico de droga, que as autoridades acreditam que possam estar envolvidos com um dos mais importantes cartéis de droga da América do Sul, escreve o "Correio da Manhã".
http://www.dn.pt/especiais/interior.aspx?content_id=3724034&especial=Revistas+de+Imprensa&seccao=TV+e+MEDIA

[stephen25000]

Stephen likes to ask questions not answer questions put to him  %£&)**# %£&)**#

I do answer questions.

You just don't like the answers.