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Offline pegasus

No-one has posted any case ever in Europe where an abductor (or an occulter) carried a victim through the streets openly in his arms.
That's a challenge - peeps here have good research skills - how come no-one here can find a single case?
« Last Edit: November 05, 2014, 01:33:06 AM by John »

Offline Carana

Re: Are there other cases of an abductor carrying a child through streets?
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2014, 08:52:48 PM »
No-one has posted any case ever in Europe where an abductor (or an occulter) carried a victim through the streets openly in his arms.
That's a challenge - peeps here have good research skills - how come no-one here can find a single case?

I would have that quite a few parents may have abducted their own child and carried them away in their arms.

Do you mean a stranger abductor?

I can't think of any offhand, but then the details of how some children have disappeared depends either on eye witnesses or CCTV. Slightly older children are often led by the hand, or invited to jump in a car to help look for a non-existent missing puppy, but those seem to have been during the day.

Offline pegasus

Re: Are there other cases of an abductor carrying a child through streets?
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2014, 09:35:19 PM »
I would have that quite a few parents may have abducted their own child and carried them away in their arms.

Do you mean a stranger abductor?

I can't think of any offhand, but then the details of how some children have disappeared depends either on eye witnesses or CCTV. Slightly older children are often led by the hand, or invited to jump in a car to help look for a non-existent missing puppy, but those seem to have been during the day.
I mean any european case ever, it can be any kind of abduction by anyone, or it can be any kind of occultation, either type of case. It must involve the perp carrying the victim unconcealed in his arms through the streets. IF there has ever been such a case of either type anywhere in Europe, please someone find and post it, then we can compare it with the Smith sighting.

Offline sadie

Re: Are there other cases of an abductor carrying a child through streets?
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2014, 12:09:41 AM »
But if the perp was expecting a pick up car .... and the car didn't turn up

Then he would be forced to carry the child openly in his arms, or dump her

Offline TitoMuzzy

Re: Are there other cases of an abductor carrying a child through streets?
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2014, 12:18:07 AM »
No-one has posted any case ever in Europe where an abductor (or an occulter) carried a victim through the streets openly in his arms.
That's a challenge - peeps here have good research skills - how come no-one here can find a single case?

Possibly because no case like the above scenario has ever been reported ??

Offline pegasus

Re: Are there other cases of an abductor carrying a child through streets?
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2014, 12:30:53 AM »
Possibly because no case like the above scenario has ever been reported ??
Has never happened

Offline sadie

Re: Are there other cases of an abductor carrying a child through streets?
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2014, 12:31:25 AM »
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Why are you unable to accept the possibility of a pick up car that didn't arrive cos of JT witnessing the abductor carrying Madeleine  ... and Gerry and Jez being in the way too.

Why cant you accept the possibility?

Offline TitoMuzzy

Re: Are there other cases of an abductor carrying a child through streets?
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2014, 12:37:23 AM »

Offline TitoMuzzy

Re: Are there other cases of an abductor carrying a child through streets?
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2014, 12:47:29 AM »
Why are you unable to accept the possibility of a pick up car that didn't arrive cos of JT witnessing the abductor carrying Madeleine  ... and Gerry and Jez being in the way too.

Why cant you accept the possibility?

Because your assertion is absurd, you've harked on monotonously about Oporto, Moroccan transvestites, drug smuggling routes, international crime syndicates et al regarding the so called and much publicised abduction of this child who was abandoned by her parents night after night !
Yet you seem quite open to accept that the initial so called abduction of this child, again, abandoned by her parents, was the work of a 'keystone cops' outfit !

Offline sadie

Re: Are there other cases of an abductor carrying a child through streets?
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2014, 12:59:40 AM »
Because your assertion is absurd, you've harked on monotonously about Oporto, Moroccan transvestites, drug smuggling routes, international crime syndicates et al regarding the so called and much publicised abduction of this child who was abandoned by her parents night after night !
Yet you seem quite open to accept that the initial so called abduction of this child, again, abandoned by her parents, was the work of a 'keystone cops' outfit !
No not a keystone Cops Outfit, but a very well organised group.

Your loss if you cant see further than the end of your nose.


Madeleine was not abandoned, as the PT and British authorities acknowledge.  You have it wrong.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Are there other cases of an abductor carrying a child through streets?
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2014, 02:56:07 PM »
Smithman didn't own a vehicle, that is obvious and probably points to a tourist or somebody unemployed who lives in a flat towards the beach (May 2007). You don't open carry to get rid of the evidence unless you've got no other choice unless you want to be banged up and live with the shame of everyone knowing the reason behind it.
« Last Edit: November 05, 2014, 02:59:21 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

ferryman

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Re: Are there other cases of an abductor carrying a child through streets?
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2014, 02:59:45 PM »
I'm aware of only one case, ever, where a child was abducted from the bath of a ground-floor flat.

Or even abducted from a bath.

But it's definitely happened.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Are there other cases of an abductor carrying a child through streets?
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2014, 05:33:16 PM »
Pointless thread.  Was there ever another case of a father carrying his child's body through the streets whilst on holiday?  why not ask that question? 

Offline Brietta

Re: Are there other cases of an abductor carrying a child through streets?
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2014, 06:08:45 PM »
I'm aware of only one case, ever, where a child was abducted from the bath of a ground-floor flat.

Or even abducted from a bath.

But it's definitely happened.


I am aware of only one case of a child being abducted from his mother's side by two children.

There is no doubt it happened.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Are there other cases of an abductor carrying a child through streets?
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2014, 06:15:34 PM »
I'm only aware of one case of a child being snatched by a dingo, never to be seen again.