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Offline pegasus

Re: Are there other cases of an abductor carrying a child through streets?
« Reply #30 on: November 07, 2014, 12:29:12 AM »
Thankyou for the cases posted.
So far we have carrying along a wooded dirt track, carrying partly covered along an overgrown bridleway, and carrying out of a building concealed under a blouse then uncovered into a taxi outside.
 
Can anyone find a case of an abductor or an occulter carrying uncovered along 400m or more of public streets?


Offline pegasus

Re: Are there other cases of an abductor carrying a child through streets?
« Reply #31 on: November 07, 2014, 12:47:46 AM »
Wasn't there a case of a child abducted from a tent in her back garden?  How often has that happened?  Name one other instance of a child being abducted from a tent in her back garden and murdered.  If you can't then obviously it can't have happened.  Is that the rationale of this thread?
You are remembering a horrific 1995 case. There was a similar case in 1973,child taken from a tent in the middle of the night, despite brothers/sisters sleeping in same tent.
(BTW neither case involved carrying uncovered along 400m of public streets).
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Are there other cases of an abductor carrying a child through streets?
« Reply #32 on: November 07, 2014, 08:12:36 AM »
Thankyou for the cases posted.
So far we have carrying along a wooded dirt track, carrying partly covered along an overgrown bridleway, and carrying out of a building concealed under a blouse then uncovered into a taxi outside.
 
Can anyone find a case of an abductor or an occulter carrying uncovered along 400m or more of public streets?
I"ll ask again - why?  What do you think it will prove?  Please explain.

Offline Mr Moderator

Re: Are there other cases of an abductor carrying a child through streets?
« Reply #33 on: November 07, 2014, 03:40:53 PM »
CIRCUMSTANCES: At about 3:00am on Saturday 17 August 2002 a 23 month old female infant was abducted from a residence at Stanley Street, Yarrabah where she was sleeping.  The child was taken by foot approximately 300 metres along a dirt track at the rear of Stanley Street. Witnesses observed an unidentified man with the child in his hands.  When challenged by the witnesses, the man placed the child on the ground and ran from the scene.  Witnesses located the child suffering from serious injuries and she was transported to Cairns Base Hospital for treatment. 

Any member of the public with information which could assist Police is asked to contact:
•the Child Protection Investigation Unit, Cairns, Phone (07) 4030 7089;
•any Police Station; or
•Crime Stoppers, Phone 1800 333 000.
http://www.australianmissingpersonsregister.com/Abductions.htm

Bumped from another thread for info.
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Offline Mr Moderator

Re: Are there other cases of an abductor carrying a child through streets?
« Reply #34 on: November 07, 2014, 03:48:28 PM »
No-one has posted any case ever in Europe where an abductor (or an occulter) carried a victim through the streets openly in his arms.
That's a challenge - peeps here have good research skills - how come no-one here can find a single case?

There are instances where this has occurred but not necessarily witnessed.
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Offline Mr Moderator

Re: Are there other cases of an abductor carrying a child through streets?
« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2014, 12:45:26 AM »
Thank you valeria.

Offline pegasus

Re: Are there other cases of an abductor carrying a child through streets?
« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2014, 01:28:13 AM »
I"ll ask again - why?  What do you think it will prove?  Please explain.
So we have something to compare with the Smith sighting = occulter or abductor theories.
For example in the aussy case posted, the man walking along the wooded dirt track put child on ground and run away when someone sees him, that asks questions like if smithman was occulter/abductor did he do same a few seconds after passing the family?

Offline Mr Moderator

Re: Are there other cases of an abductor carrying a child through streets?
« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2014, 01:33:31 AM »
It has always struck me as very odd to theorise that an abductor could carry a child several hundred metres through the streets of a small town between 9pm and 10pm at night as a police patrol could have intercepted him at any moment.  Smithman could very well be a red herring.
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Offline pegasus

Re: Are there other cases of an abductor carrying a child through streets?
« Reply #39 on: November 08, 2014, 01:37:58 AM »
this is another link to the case translated by google.

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.zougla.gr%2Fgreece%2Farticle%2Fso-to-vrefos-sinelif8i-i-gineka-pou-to-arpakse&langpair=auto%7Cen&hl=e
Thankyou valeria.
"trying to hide something that she was holding in her arms"
Here is a different behaviour from smithman who did not try to cover what was in his arms, if he was a perp why did he not cover with his black jacket?.

How many metres along streets did the woman walk before getting in taxi?

Offline pegasus

Re: Are there other cases of an abductor carrying a child through streets?
« Reply #40 on: November 08, 2014, 01:56:26 AM »
It has always struck me as very odd to theorise that an abductor could carry a child several hundred metres through the streets of a small town between 9pm and 10pm at night as a police patrol could have intercepted him at any moment.  Smithman could very well be a red herring.
In title would have said "perp" instead of assuming "abductor".
Carrying openly to display along public streets goes against the obvious instinct of a perp to hide physical clues from public viewing. Lots of people walking and risk of peeps looking from windows or from vehicles moving or parked.
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Are there other cases of an abductor carrying a child through streets?
« Reply #41 on: November 08, 2014, 08:18:53 AM »
So we have something to compare with the Smith sighting = occulter or abductor theories.
For example in the aussy case posted, the man walking along the wooded dirt track put child on ground and run away when someone sees him, that asks questions like if smithman was occulter/abductor did he do same a few seconds after passing the family?
Do you not accept the fact that every case is different and that people don't all behave in the exact same way?  I completely fail to see what can be gained from this exercise.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Are there other cases of an abductor carrying a child through streets?
« Reply #42 on: November 08, 2014, 08:33:26 AM »
It has always struck me as very odd to theorise that an abductor could carry a child several hundred metres through the streets of a small town between 9pm and 10pm at night as a police patrol could have intercepted him at any moment.  Smithman could very well be a red herring.
Did police used to patrol PdL by car in those days?

stephen25000

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Re: Are there other cases of an abductor carrying a child through streets?
« Reply #43 on: November 08, 2014, 08:48:56 AM »
Did police used to patrol PdL by car in those days?

You do know it is the 21 st Century. @)(++(* %£&)**# %£&)**# %£&)**#

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Are there other cases of an abductor carrying a child through streets?
« Reply #44 on: November 08, 2014, 10:07:21 AM »
You do know it is the 21 st Century. @)(++(* %£&)**# %£&)**# %£&)**#

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