The nature of the crime has not been proven...

[Wonderfulspam]

The reluctance to provide a cite (as per forum rules) is hardly surprising. 

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/19/madeleine-mccann-police-intruder-girls-algarve

Given that someone has been a touch economical with the truth in order to further their argument.

No I haven't.

Corrections and clarifications column editor
The Guardian, Friday 21 March 2014

• An article about police investigations into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann in Portugal in 2007 (Madeleine police hunt serial sex attacker who prowled Algarve, 20 March, page 3) said Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood had said the assumption that Madeleine had been alive when she left the apartment "may not follow with all our thinking" on the case. To clarify: those quoted words actually came after Redwood had referred to the assumption that Madeleine had been abducted. However, Redwood did say during the same press conference that police were considering the possibility that Madeleine was not alive when taken from the apartment as well as the possibility that she was.

[Jean-Pierre]

No I haven't.

Corrections and clarifications column editor
The Guardian, Friday 21 March 2014

• An article about police investigations into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann in Portugal in 2007 (Madeleine police hunt serial sex attacker who prowled Algarve, 20 March, page 3) said Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood had said the assumption that Madeleine had been alive when she left the apartment "may not follow with all our thinking" on the case. To clarify: those quoted words actually came after Redwood had referred to the assumption that Madeleine had been abducted. However, Redwood did say during the same press conference that police were considering the possibility that Madeleine was not alive when taken from the apartment as well as the possibility that she was.

Fair enough - apologies.  Crossed eyes this morning!

[Mr Gray]

No I haven't.

Corrections and clarifications column editor
The Guardian, Friday 21 March 2014

• An article about police investigations into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann in Portugal in 2007 (Madeleine police hunt serial sex attacker who prowled Algarve, 20 March, page 3) said Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood had said the assumption that Madeleine had been alive when she left the apartment "may not follow with all our thinking" on the case. To clarify: those quoted words actually came after Redwood had referred to the assumption that Madeleine had been abducted. However, Redwood did say during the same press conference that police were considering the possibility that Madeleine was not alive when taken from the apartment as well as the possibility that she was.

we have been through all this before....Maddie may have been murdered in the apartment and removed or may have been removed alive from the apartment.....either way Redwood ahs made it clear the parents are not suspects

[Wonderfulspam]

we have been through all this before....Maddie may have been murdered in the apartment and removed or may have been removed alive from the apartment.....either way Redwood ahs made it clear the parents are not suspects

So, why doesn't that nice Mr Redwood just tell us how he has been able to eliminate them from the investigation & help free the Dr's McCann from us vicious trolls?

Why doesn't he just.... do that?

[Alice Purjorick]

So, why doesn't that nice Mr Redwood just tell us how he has been able to eliminate them from the investigation & help free the Dr's McCann from us vicious trolls?

Why doesn't he just.... do that?

de Sousa said the McCanns weren't suspects then wallop they were arguido/arguida!

[Carana]

Try reading the article.

"may not follow with all our thinking" on the case. To clarify: those quoted words actually came after Redwood had referred to the assumption that Madeleine had been abducted.

I don't quite understand the issue.

The context is presumably a media briefing. Redwood presents an update. This was roughly at the time of the news that pot-belly man had sexually assaulted several children in the Algarve, wasn't it?

If so, pot-belly man (or indeed anyone else) could have been involved, and so it's feasible that the perp may not have been content to sit on children's beds, nor even to molest them and leave.

If questions were taken, an obvious question for a hack to ask would be whether it had been excluded that she could have died in the apartment or could even have died after having disappeared from the apartment.

Redwood admits that there is a doubt as to whether she was taken alive or not.

At least, that's how it sounds to me in the context of a press briefing.

[Alfred R Jones]

Yes. Redwood states that he believes there was an opportunity for Madeleine to be abducted and it is in that opportunity that they would be looking at a criminal act by a stranger. He also states that he believes she is alive but may sadly be dead.

With regard to the sex attacks on children of holiday makers Redwood said the following (according to the Guardian report, linked to earlier on this thread:

Redwood said the assumption that Madeleine was abducted "may not follow with all our thinking" on the case.

"These offences are very serious and no one has been charged in connection with them. We also need to eliminate this man from our inquiries and ascertain whether these offences are linked to Madeleine's disappearance," he said.

"If you have been a victim of a similar crime please come forward even if you reported the incident to police in Portugal, or anywhere else, please do not assume we have been made aware of it."

There was also a "very close resonance" to some features of Madeleine's disappearance, said Redwood.

"We really need to identify the offender, to bring to a close the trauma and the tragedy that these families have suffered, and then seek to establish whether this is connected to Madeleine's disappearance."

Now, does that sound to you like the Met are not treating this as a case of stranger abduction?  Or, if you wish to be pedantic, death at the hands of a stranger?  Do you see in the quote above any reason to believe that the Met are focusing any of their current enquiry on Madeleine's parents?  If so, kindly highlight which bit gives you such hope?  Many thanks.

[ferryman]

He could stop all that, by just saying how he knows they are innocent.

Andy Redwood has.

He believes Madeleine was abducted by a stranger.

He couldn't make what he thinks more plain that that.

[Alfred R Jones]

Andy Redwood has.

He believes Madeleine was abducted by a stranger.

He couldn't make what he thinks more plain that that.

He has also said what I have put in my signature line, just so's we don't forget!  I mean how much more evidence does the troll need?  Oh wait!  When the Met says Black they really mean White - innit. 

[ferryman]

He has also said what I have put in my signature line, just so's we don't forget!  I mean how much more evidence does the troll need?  Oh wait!  When the Met says Black they really mean White - innit.

Quite!

"Neither her parents or any of the members of the group who were with her are either persons of interest or suspects" - Andy Redwood Scotland Yard

[Alice Purjorick]

He has also said what I have put in my signature line, just so's we don't forget!  I mean how much more evidence does the troll need?  Oh wait!  When the Met says Black they really mean White - innit.

You mean the bit about kicking against the pricks?

[ moderated ]

[stephen25000]

He has also said what I have put in my signature line, just so's we don't forget!  I mean how much more evidence does the troll need?  Oh wait!  When the Met says Black they really mean White - innit.

So Redwood knows everything ?

So what has he solved exactly ?

[Miss Taken Identity]

"Redwood said the assumption that Madeleine was abducted "may not follow with all our thinking" on the case.

"These offences are very serious and no one has been charged in connection with them. We also need to eliminate this man from our inquiries and ascertain whether these offences are linked to Madeleine's disappearance," he said."


Now, does that sound to you like the Met are not treating this as a case of stranger abduction?  Or, if you wish to be pedantic, death at the hands of a stranger?  Do you see in the quote above any reason to believe that the Met are focusing any of their current enquiry on Madeleine's parents?  If so, kindly highlight which bit gives you such hope?  Many thanks.



There you go Alfie. they don't all Think Maddie was abducted. see first embolden line

AND can you believe it...there is NOTHING in the second embolding saying Maddies parents are NOT involved... it boils down to:just  maybe someone did something but they are not sure...

[Wonderfulspam]

He has also said what I have put in my signature line, just so's we don't forget!  I mean how much more evidence does the troll need?  Oh wait!  When the Met says Black they really mean White - innit.

Like I've said, all he need do is tell us how he knows they are innocent.. & convert us.

Maybe you could do it for him instead, seeing as though you also know they are innocent.

You could just explain to us that logcal plausible abduction thesis you keep hidden, and convert us.

Should be simple shouldn't it?

Why don't you just do that?

[Mr Gray]

Like I've said, all he need do is tell us how he knows they are innocent.. & convert us.

Maybe you could do it for him instead, seeing as though you also know they are innocent.

You could just explain to us that logcal plausible abduction thesis you keep hidden, and convert us.

Should be simple shouldn't it?

Why don't you just do that?

he doesn't need to do anything...ever tried telling a jehova's witness there's no god