The nature of the crime has not been proven...

[pathfinder73]

The evidence is the mccanns statements...they admitted they moved the shutters before the police arrived...

There's no evidence of anybody going through the window so it's an anomaly. A window facing the car park which anybody would notice open if passing through to check on their children. It's not normal to open a window that wasn't used when the front door was only yards away, hidden from the car park and a safer exit.

[Mr Gray]

Didn't they?
Evidence suggests that by the Friday they knew quite a few people.

I would still class those as strangers...SY are only questioning Portuguese residents...not other holiday makers

[Mr Gray]

There's no evidence of anybody going through the window so it's an anomaly. A window facing the car park which anybody would notice open if passing through to check on their children. It's not normal to open a window that wasn't used when the front door was only yards away, hidden from the car park and a safer exit.

didn't say there was..just saying mccanns never used the words jemmied or broken

[Carana]

Can someone remind me when exactly did the McCanns start 'pushing for a review' ?

When, & where, are they first on record as 'trying to get the case re-opened'?

Home Office launches secret review into Madeleine McCann's disappearance
The Home Office has secretly begun a review that could lead to a fresh police inquiry into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
 By Robert Mendick

9:00PM GMT 06 Mar 2010

 The move follows the release of 2,000 pages of evidence last week which Portuguese detectives are accused of having failed to fully investigate.

According to sources close to the McCanns, Alan Johnson, the Home Secretary, has ordered officials to examine the 'feasibility' of British or Portuguese detectives looking afresh at all the evidence.

Kate and Gerry McCann met with Mr Johnson last year to plead for help in their search for Madeleine, who vanished without trace in May 2007 from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal.

The couple have also met with John Yates, the Metropolitan Police Assistant Commissioner, who has headed up a number of high profile inquiries in recent years.

He is said to be "sympathetic" and to have made "general offers of assistance".

The source said: "The latest we have heard from the Home Office is officials are undertaking a 'scoping exercise' to look into the possibility of a review of the case.

"They are looking at all the options. It is basically a feasibility study.

"Kate and Gerry met with Alan Johnson to request a review is done. Hopefully any political intervention can unlock obstructions that might be in the way."

Pressure is now being put on Portuguese authorities to agree in the first instance to a three-day review of the case that could be held at Interpol's headquarters in Lyon in France.

The McCanns will hope the Home Office can persuade their Portuguese counterparts to co-operate in a case review.

The review – were it to go ahead – would involve British police working with Portuguese counterparts as well as experts in child abduction across other European forces.

The Portuguese police have been heavily criticised for their handling of the case which led to detectives naming the McCanns, both doctors from Leicestershire, as arguidos – or suspects – in the case and accusing them of involvement in her disappearance.

Their arguido status was subsequently lifted and the police investigation shelved.

But with the senior officer in charge Goncalo Amaral now widely discredited and facing financial ruin after being sued for libel by the McCanns over a book he wrote, it may become harder for the Portuguese to refuse the request for a thorough review.

The revelation that possible leads – many passed to Portuguese police by the McCanns' own private detectives – had apparently been ignored will add to the clamour.

Last week, details emerged of a series of possible sightings of Madeleine, who was just three when she vanished.

Guilhermino Encarnacao, who was in charge of the Policia Judiciaria in the Algarve, died two weeks ago from stomach cancer.

Mr Encarnacao was convinced Madeleine had died in her parents' apartment and was a major source of a series of off the record briefings to journalists against the McCanns.

A Home Office spokesman said: "We can confirm that the Home Secretary had a private meeting with Kate and Gerry McCann.

"Leicestershire Police stand ready to co-ordinate and complete enquiries if further information comes to light in the UK; or if requested to do so by the Portuguese authorities, who continue to lead on the overall investigation."

The spokesman refused to discuss what talks took place at the meeting or whether there was the chance of a review of the evidence at Interpol.

The spokesman added: "We are not going to comment on the outcome of any private meeting with the McCanns."

Mr Yates was unavailable for comment. He led the cash for honours investigation and was also involved in a new inquiry into the murder of Julie Ward, who was murdered in Kenya in 1988.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/7384911/Home-Office-launches-secret-review-into-Madeleine-McCanns-disappearance.html



They met with Johnson in 2009; the push to get even a scoping exercise done may have started earlier.

[pathfinder73]

didn't say there was..just saying mccanns never used the words jemmied or broken

Who told Brian Healy that they were jemmied? The door was also said to be open.

"Gerry told me when they went back the shutters to the room were broken, they were jemmied up and she was gone," said Mr Healy. "She'd been taken from the chalet. The door was open."

Speaking in Glasgow, Ms Cameron told BBC News 24: "The front door was lying open, the window had been tampered with, the shutters had been jemmied open, or whatever you call it, and Madeleine was missing."It looks as if somebody has come in the window, they've either been watching or they've targeted her.

[Mr Gray]

Who told Brian Healy that they were jemmied? The door was also said to be open.

"Gerry told me when they went back the shutters to the room were broken, they were jemmied up and she was gone," said Mr Healy. "She'd been taken from the chalet. The door was open."

Speaking in Glasgow, Ms Cameron told BBC News 24: "The front door was lying open, the window had been tampered with, the shutters had been jemmied open, or whatever you call it, and Madeleine was missing."It looks as if somebody has come in the window, they've either been watching or they've targeted her.

We've been through this before...Chinese whispers......there is no proof that Gerry used the words jemmied or broken but posters have used this to prove Gerry has lied..utter tosh

[Eleanor]

"Jemmied"  Is an age old Glaswegian word meaning "Broken Into."  I know this to be true because I once lived in one of the rougher areas of Glasgow.

[Eleanor]

PS.  I expect that one of Gerry's relatives interpreted it as Jemmied, and then repeated it as such.

[sadie]

Who told Brian Healy that they were jemmied? The door was also said to be open.

"Gerry told me when they went back the shutters to the room were broken, they were jemmied up and she was gone," said Mr Healy. "She'd been taken from the chalet. The door was open."

Speaking in Glasgow, Ms Cameron told BBC News 24: "The front door was lying open, the window had been tampered with, the shutters had been jemmied open, or whatever you call it, and Madeleine was missing."It looks as if somebody has come in the window, they've either been watching or they've targeted her.

She had been taken from the Chalet !!!

Sounds like The Haeleys took their holidays at Butlins , with the half hourly(roughly) ride past and listen at the window.

[Carana]

Who told Brian Healy that they were jemmied? The door was also said to be open.

"Gerry told me when they went back the shutters to the room were broken, they were jemmied up and she was gone," said Mr Healy. "She'd been taken from the chalet. The door was open."

Speaking in Glasgow, Ms Cameron told BBC News 24: "The front door was lying open, the window had been tampered with, the shutters had been jemmied open, or whatever you call it, and Madeleine was missing."It looks as if somebody has come in the window, they've either been watching or they've targeted her.

The family were obviously and understandably in shock. They were relaying what they thought they'd understood to try to help get the ball rolling faster.

Their recollections of the content of what they were told that night can't have been totally accurate as the McCanns weren't staying in a chalet for a start.

[Mr Gray]

Who told Brian Healy that they were jemmied? The door was also said to be open.

"Gerry told me when they went back the shutters to the room were broken, they were jemmied up and she was gone," said Mr Healy. "She'd been taken from the chalet. The door was open."

Speaking in Glasgow, Ms Cameron told BBC News 24: "The front door was lying open, the window had been tampered with, the shutters had been jemmied open, or whatever you call it, and Madeleine was missing."It looks as if somebody has come in the window, they've either been watching or they've targeted her.

If you think Gerry used the word jemmied then you must also think he used the word chalet.....he didn't

[pathfinder73]

Chalet isn't a word repeated in interviews but jemmied most definitely is. Whatever you call it not a word that originated from them but rather the source of it.

[Mr Gray]

Chalet isn't a word repeated in interviews but jemmied most definitely is. Whatever you call it not a word that originated from them but rather the source of it.

There is not one recorded use of the word by Gerry

[Alice Purjorick]

I would still class those as strangers...SY are only questioning Portuguese residents...not other holiday makers

Of course you would because you are now wriggling 
Who or what SY are doing is not germane to issue of who who could have taken her.
It is parents, stranger or someone with whom she was familiar.
I understood that some of the persons that The Met want interviewed by the Portuguese Police are British.

[sadie]

Of course you would because you are now wriggling 
Who or what SY are doing is not germane to issue of who who could have taken her.
It is parents, stranger or someone with whom she was familiar.
I understood that some of the persons that The Met want interviewed by the Portuguese Police are British.

Yep and some of them will have dual nationality almost certainly.  Not all neighbours, or friends, I think