is there a generation gap with mcann supporters?

[stephen25000]

exactly   they put the blame  on everybody else but   maddies parents and  why?

It's the modern ethos.

Blame everyone else for your own incompetence.

and the mccanns having being doing that for over 7 years.

[Alfred R Jones]

An earnest and noble mission to rid the net of all negative comments about the McCanns` parenting...........or do you find a teensy bit of pleasure in what you do?

I am not on a mission to rid the net of all negative comments but I confess I do gain a deal of personal satisfaction in challenging some of the ludicrous ideas and spite-filled tripe spewed by some people (not limited to McCann bashers btw, but across several groups of [ censored word ]s).  It's not very admirable I confess, but then perhaps not as bad as spending all day, every day for seven years "only asking questions" about the parents of a missing child.

[carlymichelle]

I am not on a mission to rid the net of all negative comments but I confess I do gain a deal of personal satisfaction in challenging some of the ludicrous ideas and spite-filled tripe spewed by some people (not limited to McCann bashers btw, but across several groups of [ censored word ]s).  It's not very admirable I confess, but then perhaps not as bad as spending all day, every day for seven years "only asking questions" about the parents of a missing child.

who wouldnt be missing  without her parents actions you  dont  seem to understand why   that  upsets so many people   her  own parents  left her and she vanished   and yet w e are  supposed to have  a love  fest about the  mcanns    sorry but   that isnt how the world works  and if   things dont go the mcanns way they  sue people it make them look petty and cheap   and not once  have  they ever  told the world  for parents   not to do it     instead they make people feel sorry for them while other  children   are ignored

[Carew]

I was talking about this forum.    However IMO the sites which I think you are referring to only came into existence because people were (and still are) so appalled at the sustained cruel attacks made on the family of a missing child. 

It's also a fact that scores of damaging myths have been - and still are in circulation - and are still used regularly against the McCanns on sceptic sites as if they were true.

Even on this forum we recently had a poster expressing her profound disgust at the McCanns as a result of seeing a piccie of them both sitting at a table with a huge amount of cash in  front of them.    As you know - the photo was a fake -  deliberately circulated to have the precise effect that it did have on that poster.     

Why would anyone object to those myths being exposed as just that....... i.e. Lies.?

IMO...... To some the support of the McCanns and so called "myth-busting" is used as an excuse or front to indulge in what they enjoy as a group ...........the ridicule and abuse of other people.

[Benice]

i still stand by   my  OP older  generation parents dont understand  todays parenting     and IMO    they   dont understand that in todays world what the mcanns did   will never be accepted

I'm afraid as long as the Baby Listening Services are still on offer -  and parents can see no danger in relying on Baby Alarms when on holiday - then people will continue to leave their children asleep whilst the go elsewhere for dinner.

And IMO it is probably the 'younger' parents who will do that.   As you get older you come to realise from life experience that ...... 'nasty things only happen to other people'.... isn't true.    And that to everyone who doesn't know of your existence  - you ARE those 'other people'.

[Admin]

I was talking about this forum.    However IMO the sites which I think you are referring to only came into existence because people were (and still are) so appalled at the sustained cruel attacks made on the family of a missing child. 

It's also a fact that scores of damaging myths have been - and still are in circulation - and are still used regularly against the McCanns on sceptic sites as if they were true.

Even on this forum we recently had a poster expressing her profound disgust at the McCanns as a result of seeing a piccie of them both sitting at a table with a huge amount of cash in  front of them.    As you know - the photo was a fake -  deliberately circulated to have the precise effect that it did have on that poster.     

Why would anyone object to those myths being exposed as just that....... i.e. Lies.?

There is a 'myths exposed' board already on the forum, feel free to add further myths as new topics.

www.http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?board=58.0

[stephen25000]

I was talking about this forum.    However IMO the sites which I think you are referring to only came into existence because people were (and still are) so appalled at the sustained cruel attacks made on the family of a missing child. 

It's also a fact that scores of damaging myths have been - and still are in circulation - and are still used regularly against the McCanns on sceptic sites as if they were true.

Even on this forum we recently had a poster expressing her profound disgust at the McCanns as a result of seeing a piccie of them both sitting at a table with a huge amount of cash in  front of them.    As you know - the photo was a fake -  deliberately circulated to have the precise effect that it did have on that poster.     

Why would anyone object to those myths being exposed as just that....... i.e. Lies.?

We know about this already.

Are you trying for a sympathy vote again ?

Have there been any insulting images of Amaral on the internet, or the Portuguese to do with this case ?

[Carew]

I'm afraid as long as the Baby Listening Services are still on offer -  and parents can see no danger in relying on Baby Alarms when on holiday - then people will continue to leave their children asleep whilst the go elsewhere for dinner.

And IMO it is probably the 'younger' parents who will do that.   As you get older you come to realise from life experience that ...... 'nasty things only happen to other people'.... isn't true.    And that to everyone who doesn't know of your existence  - you ARE those 'other people'.

The listening service wasn`t offered by Mark Warner`s though as the site was not considered secure, was it?................and Madeleine`s parents didn`t use a baby alarm either.

 To continually link them with other families is disingenuous imo.  Their "service" seemed somewhat unique and is the one during which a child exposed to it is now missing.

I do not see it as a generational thing.

[ferryman]

I expect you feel that using terms like "logic and a  rationale for casting critical comment" makes abusing and ridiculing other people sound so much better.

I have never abused or ridiculed the McCanns.

It must be a generation gap thing.

[Alfred R Jones]

I have never abused or ridiculed the McCanns.

It must be a generation gap thing.

It's not a generation gap thing, it's to do with whether or not you were brought up to respect others, to have manners and decorum, to give people the benefit of the doubt, to not be unpleasantly judgmental about others, not to spread lies and gossip about others.  IMO.

[stephen25000]

I have never abused or ridiculed the McCanns.

It must be a generation gap thing.

Of course you haven't, you're on here to defend them.

[Alfred R Jones]

I would agree with Carew that we who pass comments on this case are all to a greater or lesser extent obsessed, it's just the objection and manifestation of the obsession that differs.  I, for example, am not obsessed by the fact that the McCanns left their kids unattended.  Some people however are so obsessed by this fact that they like to exercise their obsession every day for years and years and years.  I don't think it's particularly doing themselves or anyone else any favours, but each to their own I suppose.

[Benice]

The listening service wasn`t offered by Mark Warner`s though as the site was not considered secure, was it?................and Madeleine`s parents didn`t use a baby alarm either.

 To continually link them with other families is disingenuous imo.  Their "service" seemed somewhat unique and is the one during which a child exposed to it is now missing.

I do not see it as a generational thing.

The Listening Service was commonplace at holiday resorts for decades.  That can only be because there was a demand for it.   IMO to pretend the McCanns are the only people to have used the same method is far more disingenuous.

One of the reasons they did it was because other members of the group  had used it successfully in the past.

IMO people simply don't want to acknowledge the fact that the McCanns are just one family amongst thousands who have used this particular kind of childcare - but only when on holiday.

Is that because 'demonising' just one set of parents, whilst turning a blind eye to the thousands of others who are 'guilty' of doing the same would appear to be more than a tad hypocritical? 

Best just to not mention them at all eh? - let alone accuse them of 'neglect'

[Carew]

I sometimes think that had the McCanns spent some of their campaigning time volunteering to educate, advise and discuss attitudes to child care issues with, maybe, young people...............to actually confront the misgivings people have about their attitude to supervision at night , it might have helped their own situation in terms of public perception.

They may not feel they should need to do this , but in their roles as doctors and parents, their endorsement and advice from experience could have been helpful .........a touch of humility maybe.

I do think that the defensiveness and excuse making, (which often borders on the ridiculous ) from their "supporters" has been counter-productive...........

The McCanns could have done better via education and advice to others themselves, rather than bullying and vilifying any perceived critics by proxy  through their "supporters ."

[ferryman]

I sometimes think that had the McCanns spent some of their campaigning time volunteering to educate, advise and discuss attitudes to child care issues with, maybe, young people...............to actually confront the misgivings people have about their attitude to supervision at night , it might have helped their own situation in terms of public perception.

They may not feel they should need to do this , but in their roles as doctors and parents, their endorsement and advice from experience could have been helpful .........a touch of humility maybe.

I do think that the defensiveness and excuse making, (which often borders on the ridiculous ) from their "supporters" has been counter-productive...........

The McCanns could have done better via education and advice to others themselves, rather than bullying and vilifying any perceived critics by proxy  through their "supporters ."

It's probably fair to say that the McCanns, themselves, would not repeat what they did that night.

But that isn't to say that what they did was wrong.

There are some things you just can't predict.

Abduction is one ...