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Offline VIXTE

Re: Cops quiz British gardener in Madeleine McCann disappearance.
« Reply #60 on: November 17, 2014, 06:27:55 PM »
When they mentioned the gardener I remembered this..

http://madeleinemaccann.blogspot.co.uk/2007_11_27_archive.html

I also remember reading the English version of it but I cannot find it now.
The photos on the bottom are of the garden I think across the road to 5A where this blogger found indication that someone stood for a long time..

These photos are from 2007! The blogger believed he photographed the place where the person watching Madeleine was standing. And that was in someone's garden. I remember this blogger was later told something, cannot remember what by the gardener of this property.. I wonder if this was the same gardener.
« Last Edit: November 17, 2014, 06:58:07 PM by VIXTE »

Offline VIXTE

Re: Cops quiz British gardener in Madeleine McCann disappearance.
« Reply #61 on: November 17, 2014, 07:20:55 PM »
To me it seems the gardener is not being treated as a suspect but as a witness.

The new suspects will be questioned from the next week but when the witnesses will be questioned or if they were already questioned we weren't told.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/nov/11/madeleine-mccann-british-expats-seven-new-suspects?


Offline Eleanor

Re: Cops quiz British gardener in Madeleine McCann disappearance.
« Reply #62 on: November 17, 2014, 07:47:55 PM »

Thanks, Anna.  Gosh, what a mess.  No wonder I've lost the plot.

Is his ex partner the British Woman in question, I wonder.

Offline Anna

Re: Cops quiz British gardener in Madeleine McCann disappearance.
« Reply #63 on: November 17, 2014, 08:03:56 PM »
Thanks, Anna.  Gosh, what a mess.  No wonder I've lost the plot.

Is his ex partner the British Woman in question, I wonder.

I doubt his ex-partner is one of the SC interests, but he does keep in contact with his ex partner, so who knows.

I think the motorhome is a link, since it keeps coming up about a van and one was also seen in the Joana case...Reported by family and ignored, IIRC.
The british woman.......Could it be the one who was in PDL with her partner at the crucial time of 9-9.30
 
 
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline Eleanor

Re: Cops quiz British gardener in Madeleine McCann disappearance.
« Reply #64 on: November 17, 2014, 08:14:28 PM »
I doubt his ex-partner is one of the SC interests, but he does keep in contact with his ex partner, so who knows.

I think the motorhome is a link, since it keeps coming up about a van and one was also seen in the Joana case...Reported by family and ignored, IIRC.
The british woman.......Could it be the one who was in PDL with her partner at the crucial time of 9-9.30
 
 

Yep, I think the Motorhome might be a link as well.  And as you say, there was one seen in The Joana Cipriano Case.

By the way, I think I read that he was still living with his ex partner when Madeleine disappeared.  And if this is so, them she could well know something of what he was doing at the time.

Offline jassi

Re: Cops quiz British gardener in Madeleine McCann disappearance.
« Reply #65 on: November 17, 2014, 08:22:49 PM »
I just love the way people clutch at straws   @)(++(*
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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Offline Eleanor

Re: Cops quiz British gardener in Madeleine McCann disappearance.
« Reply #66 on: November 17, 2014, 08:33:23 PM »
I just love the way people clutch at straws   @)(++(*

We call it Hope.  Scotland Yard call it Evidence.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Cops quiz British gardener in Madeleine McCann disappearance.
« Reply #67 on: November 17, 2014, 08:43:55 PM »
We call it Hope.  Scotland Yard call it Evidence.

People staying in motorhomes at campsites.

That sounds like evidence of camping to me.

What use is that?
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Offline jassi

Re: Cops quiz British gardener in Madeleine McCann disappearance.
« Reply #68 on: November 17, 2014, 09:29:40 PM »
Well I hope that the person(s) responsible for her disappearance are brought to justice. I don't expect anything else.

There - I've made my position clear, how about others ?
« Last Edit: November 17, 2014, 09:53:04 PM by jassi »
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Cops quiz British gardener in Madeleine McCann disappearance.
« Reply #69 on: November 17, 2014, 09:33:00 PM »
4 May 2007

At 08.00 the GNR Search and Rescue sniffer dog team came into action, searches were begun from the resort in the direction of the beach, covering a 2 km area; in Praia da Luz 300m radius searches were made as well searches of abandoned houses, wells and waste land, the radius subsequently being expanded to 600m including the verges of the EN 125 motorway.
 
Subsequently an attempt was made to reconstruct the route taken by Madeleine by giving the dogs a blanket/towel used by her, but the results were not significant, given that the dogs are more trained for use in rural areas rather than urban or populated areas, the existence of more odours in the air making it impossible for the tracker dog to identify/locate the “target smell”.
 
Searches were also carried out in two camping parks in Espiche and in Praia da Luz to inspect the bungalows whose occupants had left on the day of the disappearance; the searches were extended to line searches with the help of Portimao GNR soldiers over a larger area, searches having been made of all the vehicles parked in the Praia da Luz car parks. Subsequently, the searches were extended to the villages of Barao de S. Joao, Burgau, Bensafrim and Salema.
 
A few days later 6 members of the Algarve canine team also participated in the searches.
 
On the following day, SNBPC helicopter searches were made, covering the entire area between the coast line and the EN 125, in sweeps, from N/S direction to try to find the girl, under the hypothetical possibility that she could have left the resort on foot, got lost and could be walking in the area.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LEGAL_SUMMARY.htm
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Anna

Re: Cops quiz British gardener in Madeleine McCann disappearance.
« Reply #70 on: November 17, 2014, 09:52:34 PM »
4 May 2007

At 08.00 the GNR Search and Rescue sniffer dog team came into action, searches were begun from the resort in the direction of the beach, covering a 2 km area; in Praia da Luz 300m radius searches were made as well searches of abandoned houses, wells and waste land, the radius subsequently being expanded to 600m including the verges of the EN 125 motorway.
 
Subsequently an attempt was made to reconstruct the route taken by Madeleine by giving the dogs a blanket/towel used by her, but the results were not significant, given that the dogs are more trained for use in rural areas rather than urban or populated areas, the existence of more odours in the air making it impossible for the tracker dog to identify/locate the “target smell”.
 
Searches were also carried out in two camping parks in Espiche and in Praia da Luz to inspect the bungalows whose occupants had left on the day of the disappearance; the searches were extended to line searches with the help of Portimao GNR soldiers over a larger area, searches having been made of all the vehicles parked in the Praia da Luz car parks. Subsequently, the searches were extended to the villages of Barao de S. Joao, Burgau, Bensafrim and Salema.
 
A few days later 6 members of the Algarve canine team also participated in the searches.
 
On the following day, SNBPC helicopter searches were made, covering the entire area between the coast line and the EN 125, in sweeps, from N/S direction to try to find the girl, under the hypothetical possibility that she could have left the resort on foot, got lost and could be walking in the area.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LEGAL_SUMMARY.htm

So they inspected the vacated (rental) motorhomes. What are you saying?
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline jassi

Re: Cops quiz British gardener in Madeleine McCann disappearance.
« Reply #71 on: November 17, 2014, 09:57:54 PM »
Why would they want to examine holiday home that had been vacated the day of the disappearance? Examination of those vacated in the following days would make more sense.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

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Re: Cops quiz British gardener in Madeleine McCann disappearance.
« Reply #72 on: November 17, 2014, 10:00:44 PM »
Why would they want to examine holiday home that had been vacated the day of the disappearance? Examination of those vacated in the following days would make more sense.
Do you think the Met are really, really stupid?  Just wondering...

Offline Anna

Re: Cops quiz British gardener in Madeleine McCann disappearance.
« Reply #73 on: November 17, 2014, 10:05:52 PM »
Why would they want to examine holiday home that had been vacated the day of the disappearance? Examination of those vacated in the following days would make more sense.

Exactly Jassi.
Why were the occupied, owned, motorhomes not searched, by PJ, I wonder and did they get the Numbers of those who left in their own vans. The site should have licence numbers on their records.
Anyway, I think we are going off topic.
« Last Edit: November 17, 2014, 10:36:16 PM by Anna »
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Cops quiz British gardener in Madeleine McCann disappearance.
« Reply #74 on: November 17, 2014, 10:08:43 PM »
So they inspected the vacated (rental) motorhomes. What are you saying?

A caravan park is not the wisest place to bring a kidnapped child with prying eyes and a place where the police would go to search! Did anybody report seeing a child like Madeleine being seen at a campsite just after she disappeared or strange behaviour? I wonder if the caravan was parked on the beach  @)(++(*
« Last Edit: November 17, 2014, 10:11:35 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.