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Offline Brietta

Re: Cops quiz British gardener in Madeleine McCann disappearance.
« Reply #105 on: November 24, 2014, 10:38:38 AM »
A good example of why we should take ALL translations put on the net by amateurs with a pinch of salt.

Particularly amateurs who may be promoting an agenda ... perhaps even subconsciously.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

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Re: Cops quiz British gardener in Madeleine McCann disappearance.
« Reply #106 on: November 24, 2014, 10:52:02 AM »
Particularly amateurs who may be promoting an agenda ... perhaps even subconsciously.

Such as yourself and alfred. 8)-)))

Offline Carana

Re: Cops quiz British gardener in Madeleine McCann disappearance.
« Reply #107 on: November 24, 2014, 10:57:41 AM »
A good example of why we should take ALL translations put on the net by amateurs with a pinch of salt.

Well, mistakes happen. It wasn't a mistranslation as such since the content of the form doesn't appear to have been translated, but a mistaken reference title (the same mistaken one is on maddiecasefiles as well).

The translators were doing this in their spare time for free, but the red top hacks are paid - twice, in fact. Once to say that he'd been swabbed and again a few days later to say that he denies it.



Offline pegasus

Re: Cops quiz British gardener in Madeleine McCann disappearance.
« Reply #108 on: November 25, 2014, 03:21:38 PM »
It is strange how the soggy note had the full name written including middle name.

Offline jassi

Re: Cops quiz British gardener in Madeleine McCann disappearance.
« Reply #109 on: November 25, 2014, 03:26:22 PM »
It is strange how the soggy note had the full name written including middle name.

One has to wonder why.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Brietta

Re: Cops quiz British gardener in Madeleine McCann disappearance.
« Reply #110 on: November 25, 2014, 05:17:20 PM »
It is strange how the soggy note had the full name written including middle name.

I cannot find any reference to this note, nor any reference to the reservoir actually being searched despite many references to the intent.  Maybe the shelving of the case overtook events.

**snip**
The decision is not believed to follow any specific new intelligence but the realisation that the beauty spot has not been properly checked.

It was given only a cursory search on May 7, four days after Madeleine went missing.

New chief investigator Paulo Rebelo, 45, has also demanded searches in all areas within 10 miles of Praia da Luz.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/is-madeleine-mccann-in-reservoir-513599
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Carana

Re: Cops quiz British gardener in Madeleine McCann disappearance.
« Reply #111 on: November 25, 2014, 06:29:42 PM »
I cannot find any reference to this note, nor any reference to the reservoir actually being searched despite many references to the intent.  Maybe the shelving of the case overtook events.

**snip**
The decision is not believed to follow any specific new intelligence but the realisation that the beauty spot has not been properly checked.

It was given only a cursory search on May 7, four days after Madeleine went missing.

New chief investigator Paulo Rebelo, 45, has also demanded searches in all areas within 10 miles of Praia da Luz.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/is-madeleine-mccann-in-reservoir-513599

I can't find any reference to searches of the dam after 8 May (which involved a boat checking the surface).

Offline pegasus

Re: Cops quiz British gardener in Madeleine McCann disappearance.
« Reply #112 on: November 25, 2014, 10:59:56 PM »
I've already pointed out that the UK press is IMO misquoting this honest witmess.
What they are misquoting him on is the date the note was found.
The UK press claim he said it was found on 3 May 2008.
And they use that misquote to accuse the PJ of ignoring it.
The truth IMO is that the note was found 3 Oct 2007 latest, and when it was handed to PJ, they immediately diverted resources away from the searches based on phone forensics very close to and southwest of PDL, to search this distant lake and the surrounding forest with no phone forensics pointing there.
Never trust the UK press when they accidentally misquote an honest witness then invent a story which falsely critisises the PJ.
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Offline pegasus

Re: Cops quiz British gardener in Madeleine McCann disappearance.
« Reply #113 on: November 26, 2014, 01:45:57 AM »
If a UK newspaper assures you it is p***ing down, but you look outside and see peeps in shirtsleeves standing on dry ground in the blazing sun, or releasing balloons over a church into an almost clear sky and not a brolly in sight, who do you trust? Your eyes and the photographs and the rainfall records? Or the newspaper?

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Cops quiz British gardener in Madeleine McCann disappearance.
« Reply #114 on: November 26, 2014, 01:57:38 AM »
Where are you getting PDL weather forecast? I can get Faro. There was rain on Tue 13 May. Gardener works Wed.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline pegasus

Re: Cops quiz British gardener in Madeleine McCann disappearance.
« Reply #115 on: November 26, 2014, 02:19:30 AM »
Where are you getting PDL weather forecast? I can get Faro. There was rain on Tue 13 May. Gardener works Wed.
Most weather sites are no help however this one is great
The column to look at is PP (rainfall in millimetres)

Weather preceding 3rd May 2008
http://www.tutiempo.net/en/Climate/SAGRES/05-2008/85330.htm
Dry as a bone.
Confirming our photos, and rubbishing the UK newspaper.

Weather preceding 3rd Oct 2007
http://www.tutiempo.net/en/Climate/SAGRES/10-2007/85330.htm
Rain, rain.

And you did ask for a Wednesday right?

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Cops quiz British gardener in Madeleine McCann disappearance.
« Reply #116 on: November 26, 2014, 02:31:35 AM »
Most weather sites are no help however this one is great
The column to look at is PP (rainfall in millimetres)

Weather preceding 3rd May 2008
http://www.tutiempo.net/en/Climate/SAGRES/05-2008/85330.htm
Dry as a bone.
Confirming our photos, and rubbishing the UK newspaper.

Weather preceding 3rd Oct 2007
http://www.tutiempo.net/en/Climate/SAGRES/10-2007/85330.htm
Rain, rain.

And you did ask for a Wednesday right?

Thanks Pegasus. I will have a look tomorrow. Goodnight.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline pegasus

Re: Cops quiz British gardener in Madeleine McCann disappearance.
« Reply #117 on: November 26, 2014, 02:51:55 AM »
Thanks Pegasus. I will have a look tomorrow. Goodnight.
This witness worked daytime.
So the rain, as he says (video), is the preceding night.
3 Oct is the only Wednesday which has rain preceding and which is anniversary.
The witness is 100% honest.
The newspaper IMO misquoted by adding their own wrong date.
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Cops quiz British gardener in Madeleine McCann disappearance.
« Reply #118 on: November 26, 2014, 08:51:07 AM »
This witness worked daytime.
So the rain, as he says (video), is the preceding night.
3 Oct is the only Wednesday which has rain preceding and which is anniversary.
The witness is 100% honest.
The newspaper IMO misquoted by adding their own wrong date.

Pegasus, why do you always state "The witness is 100% honest"? I can understand if you added IMO.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline pegasus

Re: Cops quiz British gardener in Madeleine McCann disappearance.
« Reply #119 on: November 26, 2014, 12:52:23 PM »
Pegasus, why do you always state "The witness is 100% honest"? I can understand if you added IMO.
See signature.
Obviously just my opinion but I did research it, everything checks out, for example the newspapers are talking 100% rubbish when they say a swab was done in 2007, and the man is telling the truth when he says it wasn't, look at the page the lazy papers say is a swab, it's not.
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