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Offline misty

Re: If the McCann's had left within a week of Madeleine's disappearance...
« Reply #45 on: November 22, 2014, 02:16:41 PM »
A number of people seem to have written books on the subject, not to mention a number of documentaries, all giving their own individual slant on what happened.

How many of them had full access to all the evidence?

Offline jassi

Re: If the McCann's had left within a week of Madeleine's disappearance...
« Reply #46 on: November 22, 2014, 02:19:29 PM »
Probably none.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline pegasus

Re: If the McCann's had left within a week of Madeleine's disappearance...
« Reply #47 on: November 22, 2014, 02:32:56 PM »
I just googled it and I found one reference.

Hmmm. The idea of active involvement in making these children disappear is too far-fetched for me.

That said:

- It is a fact that two children disappeared without trace and that former police officers then wrote books.

- I wouldn't exclude local corruption on the part of one or two "bad apples" after the events (WHOEVER they may be and in the sense of withholding potentially relevant information), but there doesn't appear to be anything to substantiate that at the moment.

- It does seem to be well established that numerous "leaks" came from the PJ, and that the media were quite happy to pay substantial sums for "infomation" wherever it came from (including local gossip).

Did all those "leaks" flutter out of the windows of the PT authorities for free (and not just in a financial sense)?
The theory is preposterous.
It would be like accusing Churchill of starting the  NW Frontier uprising himself just so he could write a book about it to make money.


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Offline Carana

Re: If the McCann's had left within a week of Madeleine's disappearance...
« Reply #49 on: November 22, 2014, 02:43:46 PM »
The theory is preposterous.
It would be like accusing Churchill of starting the  NW Frontier uprising himself just so he could write a book about it to make money.

I agree. I wasn't suggesting that I found it plausible, if you re-read my post.



Offline jassi

Re: If the McCann's had left within a week of Madeleine's disappearance...
« Reply #50 on: November 22, 2014, 02:45:44 PM »
Really?

Yes, really. Who do you think had access to all the evidence?


In fact no one has all the evidence, otherwise someone would be convicted and  the case would be closed.
« Last Edit: November 22, 2014, 02:48:09 PM by jassi »
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline misty

Re: If the McCann's had left within a week of Madeleine's disappearance...
« Reply #51 on: November 22, 2014, 02:47:52 PM »
The theory is preposterous.
It would be like accusing Churchill of starting the  NW Frontier uprising himself just so he could write a book about it to make money.

It depends how desperate you are for the cash. A precedent had been set.
 

Offline pegasus

Re: If the McCann's had left within a week of Madeleine's disappearance...
« Reply #52 on: November 22, 2014, 02:50:43 PM »
I agree. I wasn't suggesting that I found it plausible, if you re-read my post.
Yes understood.
And re accusations by others that Amaral wrote his book to make money, I think they are wrong and rather desperate. I think he wrote it because of his genuine determination that this case must be solved.

Offline misty

Re: If the McCann's had left within a week of Madeleine's disappearance...
« Reply #53 on: November 22, 2014, 02:54:18 PM »
Yes, really. Who do you think had access to all the evidence?


In fact no one has all the evidence, otherwise someone would be convicted and  the case would be closed.

Many people believe that all the evidence available, presented in literary form as the truth, is enough to convict the parents.

Offline jassi

Re: If the McCann's had left within a week of Madeleine's disappearance...
« Reply #54 on: November 22, 2014, 02:59:36 PM »
No, that illusive piece of the jigsaw is still being sought, though I suspect there are more  pieces missing than have been found.
« Last Edit: November 22, 2014, 05:30:35 PM by jassi »
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Carana

Re: If the McCann's had left within a week of Madeleine's disappearance...
« Reply #55 on: November 22, 2014, 03:53:37 PM »
Yes understood.
And re accusations by others that Amaral wrote his book to make money, I think they are wrong and rather desperate. I think he wrote it because of his genuine determination that this case must be solved.

Erm... I disagree with what I understood to be a suggestion in a certan conspiracy theory that children were made to disappear in order to cash in on their disappearances.

However, I disagree that Amaral wrote his book due to a "genuine determination that this case must be solved". He doesn't even state that himself as his main purposes.


ferryman

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Re: If the McCann's had left within a week of Madeleine's disappearance...
« Reply #56 on: November 22, 2014, 05:13:17 PM »
Erm... I disagree with what I understood to be a suggestion in a certan conspiracy theory that children were made to disappear in order to cash in on their disappearances.

However, I disagree that Amaral wrote his book due to a "genuine determination that this case must be solved". He doesn't even state that himself as his main purposes.

Wasn't Amaral's stated purpose in writing the book to "restore his honour" (or some such guff)?

Offline Brietta

Re: If the McCann's had left within a week of Madeleine's disappearance...
« Reply #57 on: November 22, 2014, 05:40:31 PM »
Yes understood.
And re accusations by others that Amaral wrote his book to make money, I think they are wrong and rather desperate. I think he wrote it because of his genuine determination that this case must be solved.

We had no idea until early in the libel trial of the parlous state of Dr Amaral's financial situation.  Money from a best seller would have been very welcome indeed.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Alfred R Jones

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Re: If the McCann's had left within a week of Madeleine's disappearance...
« Reply #58 on: November 22, 2014, 05:47:11 PM »
The general consensus amongst "sceptics" is the the Summers and Swan book was written for the sole purpose of cashing in, yet Amaral wrote his for altruistic reasons...?  Please pull the other one, it's got bells on.

Offline jassi

Re: If the McCann's had left within a week of Madeleine's disappearance...
« Reply #59 on: November 22, 2014, 05:53:50 PM »
I would have thought that all the books and documentaries were for financial gain.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future