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Offline pegasus

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stephen25000

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Re: Witnesses claimed to have seen Robert Murat the night Maddie disappeared.
« Reply #211 on: October 20, 2015, 06:12:07 PM »
GA's interview 23/1/15 after libel trial session (transcript)

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Gonçalo Amaral – Because of interferences that took place, without interferences we would have gone further. Have no doubts about that. That is why the process was archived. When the shelving took place, the couple and another person were arguidos. Any one of them could have requested the opening of the instruction and continued the process. None of them did it, the couple because they didn’t want to, they didn’t want to do it, and the other person because he received compensation from the British courts, so he didn’t do it, he was very satisfied, and now it seems that he is an arguido again. This is what happens –

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 RM is the topic here.
Why are you fixated on what I may be fixated on?

No, I am observing.

You seem to want Murat in the frame for an 'abduction'.

Offline misty

Re: Witnesses claimed to have seen Robert Murat the night Maddie disappeared.
« Reply #212 on: October 20, 2015, 06:33:28 PM »
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5701.0;attach=5807;image
That photo (morning 5th May) is definitely not RM, Misty.

Source says photo from morning of 4th May.
I didn't mean he was RM, just that from a distance he resembled RM.

Offline Angelo222

Re: Witnesses claimed to have seen Robert Murat the night Maddie disappeared.
« Reply #213 on: October 20, 2015, 06:36:45 PM »
Source says photo from morning of 4th May.
I didn't mean he was RM, just that from a distance he resembled RM.

Just as Gerry McCann apparently resembled Smithman.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Angelo222

Re: Witnesses claimed to have seen Robert Murat the night Maddie disappeared.
« Reply #214 on: October 20, 2015, 06:47:18 PM »
I'm discussing the topic of this thread,

Is he still an arguido? GA insinuated he is one again

Would you rather we discuss light molecules?

One has to be careful about the true meaning of arguido and what it represents.  In Portugal the term arguido is simply a designation.  Anyone has the right to this status if police are taking an interest in them, it affords the individual certain legal rights.  There is no equivalent in the British legal system.

An arguido might or might not be an official suspect, he or she might not even be a defendant.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline misty

Re: Witnesses claimed to have seen Robert Murat the night Maddie disappeared.
« Reply #215 on: October 20, 2015, 06:49:59 PM »
No, I am observing.

You seem to want Murat in the frame for an 'abduction'.

I am so pleased you now know the difference between observing & advising, as I wouldn't dream of advising someone who clearly has a far superior intellect to mine.

Once again - discussing the topic, Stephen.

Offline misty

Re: Witnesses claimed to have seen Robert Murat the night Maddie disappeared.
« Reply #216 on: October 20, 2015, 06:54:20 PM »
One has to be careful about the true meaning of arguido and what it represents.  In Portugal the term arguido is simply a designation.  Anyone has the right to this status if police are taking an interest in them, it affords the individual certain legal rights.  There is no equivalent in the British legal system.

An arguido might or might not be an official suspect, he or she might not even be a defendant.

I'm sure GA knew what he was saying.
I seem to recall SY wanted all those 11 people of interest, including RM, questioned as witnesses rather than arguidos.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Witnesses claimed to have seen Robert Murat the night Maddie disappeared.
« Reply #217 on: October 20, 2015, 06:54:51 PM »
One has to be careful about the true meaning of arguido and what it represents.  In Portugal the term arguido is simply a designation.  Anyone has the right to this status if police are taking an interest in them, it affords the individual certain legal rights.  There is no equivalent in the British legal system.

An arguido might or might not be an official suspect, he or she might not even be a defendant.
So we are wrong to say that the McCanns or Murat were ever suspects in this case then?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Witnesses claimed to have seen Robert Murat the night Maddie disappeared.
« Reply #218 on: October 20, 2015, 07:00:20 PM »
One has to be careful about the true meaning of arguido and what it represents.  In Portugal the term arguido is simply a designation.  Anyone has the right to this status if police are taking an interest in them, it affords the individual certain legal rights.  There is no equivalent in the British legal system.

An arguido might or might not be an official suspect, he or she might not even be a defendant.

what is an official suspect...there are suspects...that's all
as regards arguido it seems to be very similar to being interviewed   under caution in the UK

Offline pegasus

Re: Witnesses claimed to have seen Robert Murat the night Maddie disappeared.
« Reply #219 on: October 20, 2015, 07:06:05 PM »
Source says photo from morning of 4th May.
I didn't mean he was RM, just that from a distance he resembled RM.
Superficially resembles RM because has short dark hair and glasses. That photo is actually dated 5th (caption saying 4th is wrong). Man with baguette is some kind of helper who was assigned to them.

stephen25000

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Re: Witnesses claimed to have seen Robert Murat the night Maddie disappeared.
« Reply #220 on: October 20, 2015, 07:36:47 PM »
I am so pleased you now know the difference between observing & advising, as I wouldn't dream of advising someone who clearly has a far superior intellect to mine.

Once again - discussing the topic, Stephen.

Poor sarcasm.

Meanwhile, you are clearly fixated with Murat

Is he a suspect ?

Offline misty

Re: Witnesses claimed to have seen Robert Murat the night Maddie disappeared.
« Reply #221 on: October 20, 2015, 08:18:35 PM »
Poor sarcasm.

Meanwhile, you are clearly fixated with Murat

Is he a suspect ?
Sarcasm is not my forte.

I have less interest in him than you have in the daily neglect/no abduction mantra.

He is/was a person of interest to SY. I know no more. Do you?
 

Offline mercury

Re: Witnesses claimed to have seen Robert Murat the night Maddie disappeared.
« Reply #222 on: October 20, 2015, 08:23:33 PM »
So if Murat was there that night? Which is not proven, What does that mean in relation to Madelenes disappearance? Isn't this question the real point of this thread?

Btw Misty where's the evidence that Charlotte Pennington saw him?

stephen25000

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Re: Witnesses claimed to have seen Robert Murat the night Maddie disappeared.
« Reply #223 on: October 20, 2015, 08:28:24 PM »
Sarcasm is not my forte.

I have less interest in him than you have in the daily neglect/no abduction mantra.

He is/was a person of interest to SY. I know no more. Do you?

You do realize that if people such as yourself didn't repeat the abduction mantra ad nauseum, then I would not be doing the reverse.

The offer has been made several times before, and ignored.

Offline misty

Re: Witnesses claimed to have seen Robert Murat the night Maddie disappeared.
« Reply #224 on: October 20, 2015, 09:15:32 PM »
So if Murat was there that night? Which is not proven, What does that mean in relation to Madelenes disappearance? Isn't this question the real point of this thread?

Btw Misty where's the evidence that Charlotte Pennington saw him?

If RM was there that night, then the question of why he elected to distance himself from the scene as far as the PJ were concerned would need to be addressed.
Whilst not being involved in Madeleine's disappearance, he may hold information about others who were on the scene at the time.

CP - there are various newspaper reports, none of which provide a precise version of what she witnessed, & when.