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Offline jassi

Re: Convicted rapist Ched Evans seeks return to professional football career.
« Reply #45 on: January 05, 2015, 01:50:15 PM »
Definition of rape has changed over time anyway. At one time a husband could not rape his wife.
50 years ago activities that today would be treated as rape or at least serious sexual assault were often considered to be little more than bad judgment.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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ferryman

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Re: Convicted rapist Ched Evans seeks return to professional football career.
« Reply #46 on: January 05, 2015, 01:56:38 PM »
Evans raped a woman, was found to have done so beyond reasonable doubt by a jury, was further found to have done so by an appeal court that rejected his submission. Yet rather than apologise for doing so - which would be the start, not the end, of any attempt to redeem himself - he is spending tens of thousands of pounds on an assault on the legal definition of rape.

Yes.

That's what he's doing ...

ferryman

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Re: Convicted rapist Ched Evans seeks return to professional football career.
« Reply #47 on: January 05, 2015, 01:58:30 PM »
Definition of rape has changed over time anyway. At one time a husband could not rape his wife.
50 years ago activities that today would be treated as rape or at least serious sexual assault were often considered to be little more than bad judgment.

Definitions of rape have changed, certainly, to offer women more protection.

On all balances, I think that's a good thing ...

Offline jassi

Re: Convicted rapist Ched Evans seeks return to professional football career.
« Reply #48 on: January 05, 2015, 02:01:02 PM »
I fully agree with that.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline John

Re: Convicted rapist Ched Evans seeks return to professional football career.
« Reply #49 on: January 05, 2015, 02:17:32 PM »
Interesting news

Evans raped a woman, was found to have done so beyond reasonable doubt by a jury, was further found to have done so by an appeal court that rejected his submission. Yet rather than apologise for doing so - which would be the start, not the end, of any attempt to redeem himself - he is spending tens of thousands of pounds on an assault on the legal definition of rape.


http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/ched-evans-right-return-work-4921316

Thanks for that Anna, I hadn't realised he had already lost the appeal against his conviction.   8((()*/

Two men in an inn bedroom with an intoxicated lass only spells one thing imo.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2015, 02:52:08 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Anna

Re: Convicted rapist Ched Evans seeks return to professional football career.
« Reply #50 on: January 05, 2015, 02:25:50 PM »
I totally agree, John
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Convicted rapist Ched Evans seeks return to professional football career.
« Reply #51 on: January 05, 2015, 02:34:18 PM »
Thanks for that Anna, I hadn't realised he had already lost the appeal against his conviction.   8((()*/

Two men in an inn bedroom with an intoxicated lass only spells one thing imo.

Fun!?

He should have been acquitted, there's no evidence that she didn't consent, both men say that she did.

She claims to remember nothing of it, made no compaint about it, so, what's the problem?
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Offline Anna

Re: Convicted rapist Ched Evans seeks return to professional football career.
« Reply #52 on: January 05, 2015, 02:41:50 PM »
Fun!?

He should have been acquitted, there's no evidence that she didn't consent, both men say that she did.

She claims to remember nothing of it, made no compaint about it, so, what's the problem?


Well! You have said everything, that we need to know about you and your views on sexual abuse and rape, WS.
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Convicted rapist Ched Evans seeks return to professional football career.
« Reply #53 on: January 05, 2015, 02:47:27 PM »

Well! You have said everything, that we need to know about you and your views on sexual abuse and rape, WS.

In this case, yes.

I think his conviction is a joke, & the ridiculous media hype will do nothing but ruin all their lives, more than some hotel room rumpy pumpy ever could.
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Offline John

Re: Convicted rapist Ched Evans seeks return to professional football career.
« Reply #54 on: January 05, 2015, 02:49:02 PM »
We have a tool on the farm which we use on cattle and male lambs, I could think of a similar use for it when it comes to rapists and paedophiles.

« Last Edit: January 05, 2015, 02:51:59 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Anna

Re: Convicted rapist Ched Evans seeks return to professional football career.
« Reply #55 on: January 05, 2015, 02:58:28 PM »
We have a tool on the farm which we use on cattle and male lambs, I could think of a similar use for it when it comes to rapists and paedophiles.



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Not a bad idea, though!
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Convicted rapist Ched Evans seeks return to professional football career.
« Reply #56 on: January 05, 2015, 03:12:19 PM »
Fun!?

He should have been acquitted, there's no evidence that she didn't consent, both men say that she did.

She claims to remember nothing of it, made no compaint about it, so, what's the problem?

So who did make the complaint?

I have to say that I am not entirely happy with this verdict.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Convicted rapist Ched Evans seeks return to professional football career.
« Reply #57 on: January 05, 2015, 03:17:06 PM »
So who did make the complaint?

I have to say that I am not entirely happy with this verdict.

According to her evidence, the complainant awoke on Monday **th ***** 201* in the Premier Inn totally unaware as to how she had got there. Having searched for her bag and mobile phone she then proceeded to Reception.

Her mother picked her up and took her to her friend’s house. Later that day she returned to work. At the end of her shift at 11pm she went to the reception of the Premier Inn and requested to see CCTV footage to see, she claimed, if she could find out how she got there earlier that morning. She did not get to see the CCTV footage but was told by the receptionist that the room had been booked and was occupied by footballers.

Later that evening the complainant contacted North Wales Police claiming her drink had been spiked and that she had lost her bag and mobile phone. The police launched their investigation.

http://www.chedevans.com/key-and-undisputed-facts
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Offline insider

Re: Convicted rapist Ched Evans seeks return to professional football career.
« Reply #58 on: January 05, 2015, 04:08:03 PM »
We have a tool on the farm which we use on cattle and male lambs, I could think of a similar use for it when it comes to rapists and paedophiles.



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Offline Anna

Re: Convicted rapist Ched Evans seeks return to professional football career.
« Reply #59 on: January 05, 2015, 04:16:54 PM »
According to her evidence, the complainant awoke on Monday **th ***** 201* in the Premier Inn totally unaware as to how she had got there. Having searched for her bag and mobile phone she then proceeded to Reception.

Her mother picked her up and took her to her friend’s house. Later that day she returned to work. At the end of her shift at 11pm she went to the reception of the Premier Inn and requested to see CCTV footage to see, she claimed, if she could find out how she got there earlier that morning. She did not get to see the CCTV footage but was told by the receptionist that the room had been booked and was occupied by footballers.

Later that evening the complainant contacted North Wales Police claiming her drink had been spiked and that she had lost her bag and mobile phone. The police launched their investigation.

http://www.chedevans.com/key-and-undisputed-facts

There appears to be many different versions and the one you have linked, is from his site and probably one-sided.

 If you believe that a highly intoxicated woman would be capable of agreeing to sex with two men, do you also believe that she would agree to friends of the rapist (who were invited) to watch through the window and video the whole thing?

Some very crazy girl only, could consent to this.
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato