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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Cadaver Dog Alerts, Missing Person Turns Up Alive.
« Reply #60 on: January 05, 2015, 09:52:22 PM »
Spammy seems to be suggesting that dog alerts after a tip off is a different thing to dog alerts with no tip off.  Now why would that be, I wonder...? &%+((£

'If you read the article I quoted it acknowledged that police received a tip off from an informant.  They supposedly received corroboration from the tip off by the alert of the cadaver dog, in fact it's probably a very good example of unconscious handler bias.'

Only, Jesus had never actually been there.

Alas, Maddie was last seen alive(allegedly) in 5a,  no tip off that she was dead!

Eddie alerted there.

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Cadaver Dog Alerts, Missing Person Turns Up Alive.
« Reply #61 on: January 05, 2015, 09:58:49 PM »
'If you read the article I quoted it acknowledged that police received a tip off from an informant.  They supposedly received corroboration from the tip off by the alert of the cadaver dog, in fact it's probably a very good example of unconscious handler bias.'

Only, Jesus had never actually been there.

Alas, Maddie was last seen alive(allegedly) in 5a,  no tip off that she was dead!

Eddie alerted there.

h was repeatedly cued in the hope of finding some evidence...even with this repeated cuing nothing was found...that's evidence that maddie is alive not dead

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Re: Cadaver Dog Alerts, Missing Person Turns Up Alive.
« Reply #62 on: January 05, 2015, 10:01:02 PM »
'If you read the article I quoted it acknowledged that police received a tip off from an informant.  They supposedly received corroboration from the tip off by the alert of the cadaver dog, in fact it's probably a very good example of unconscious handler bias.'

Only, Jesus had never actually been there.

Alas, Maddie was last seen alive(allegedly) in 5a,  no tip off that she was dead!

Eddie alerted there.
You've completely failed to make a sensible point.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Cadaver Dog Alerts, Missing Person Turns Up Alive.
« Reply #63 on: January 05, 2015, 10:11:10 PM »
You've completely failed to make a sensible point.

No one tipped off Grime, Eddie alerted, several times.

Jesus was never there, Maddie was.
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Cadaver Dog Alerts, Missing Person Turns Up Alive.
« Reply #64 on: January 05, 2015, 10:14:26 PM »
No one tipped of Grime, Eddie alerted, several times.

Jesus was never there, Maddie was.
Nope, still not making any sense.

Offline Anna

Re: Cadaver Dog Alerts, Missing Person Turns Up Alive.
« Reply #65 on: January 05, 2015, 10:16:22 PM »
Cadaver dogs are normally brought into a search when there is a strong indication that the missing person may be dead.

Reporting on their findings/alerts will only normally be publicized, when a body is found, unless it is a high profile case, such as the Mathews and McCanns.

In normal circumstances, If the missing person is found alive, we would be unlikely to hear what the dogs reactions were, IMO.
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Cadaver Dog Alerts, Missing Person Turns Up Alive.
« Reply #66 on: January 05, 2015, 10:18:23 PM »
Nope, still not making any sense.

Eddie alerted where Maddie were last seen, unlike that there Jesus case, where she had never been....


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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Cadaver Dog Alerts, Missing Person Turns Up Alive.
« Reply #67 on: January 05, 2015, 10:20:38 PM »
Spammy seems to be suggesting that dog alerts after a tip off is a different thing to dog alerts with no tip off.  Now why would that be, I wonder...? &%+((£

 And you don't know if a dead body has been in there. Doesn't mean it had to DeJesus.

Cleveland, OH - There is new information surrounding a "person of interest" in the disappearance of west side teenager Gina DeJesus.

Matthew Hurayt was arrested and now facing a slew of charges including arson, insurance fraud, forgery, felony assault and abduction.

He's also accused of intimidation and more.

Cops call Hurayt one bad guy.

This, after officials dug up Hurayt's garage last month looking for clues in the disappearance of DeJesus - but came up empty.

http://www.19actionnews.com/story/5595121/more-trouble-for-matthew-hurayt
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Anna

Re: Cadaver Dog Alerts, Missing Person Turns Up Alive.
« Reply #68 on: January 05, 2015, 10:21:05 PM »
Eddie alerted where Maddie were last seen, unlike that there Jesus case, where she had never been....

What are you talking about? These dogs are trained to find death, whether or not a person missing had been there.
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Cadaver Dog Alerts, Missing Person Turns Up Alive.
« Reply #69 on: January 05, 2015, 10:32:32 PM »
Eddie alerted where Maddie were last seen, unlike that there Jesus case, where she had never been....
So what? 

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Cadaver Dog Alerts, Missing Person Turns Up Alive.
« Reply #70 on: January 05, 2015, 10:35:09 PM »
And you don't know if a dead body has been in there. Doesn't mean it had to DeJesus.

Cleveland, OH - There is new information surrounding a "person of interest" in the disappearance of west side teenager Gina DeJesus.

Matthew Hurayt was arrested and now facing a slew of charges including arson, insurance fraud, forgery, felony assault and abduction.

He's also accused of intimidation and more.

Cops call Hurayt one bad guy.

This, after officials dug up Hurayt's garage last month looking for clues in the disappearance of DeJesus - but came up empty.

http://www.19actionnews.com/story/5595121/more-trouble-for-matthew-hurayt
@)(++(* And did they find even one molecule of dead body under the garage or in the house?  Was Hurayt ever charged with anyone's murder?  You really are clutching at straws, typical dog apologist!

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Cadaver Dog Alerts, Missing Person Turns Up Alive.
« Reply #71 on: January 05, 2015, 10:35:37 PM »
alert does not equal cadaver...I know that's a bit much for some to understand..but it's what Grime said...but what does he know compared to the experts on here

Offline Anna

Re: Cadaver Dog Alerts, Missing Person Turns Up Alive.
« Reply #72 on: January 05, 2015, 10:47:45 PM »
alert does not equal cadaver...I know that's a bit much for some to understand..but it's what Grime said...but what does he know compared to the experts on here

This thread title, Davel, is Cadaver dog alerts-Missing person turns up alive.
 
So despite the fact that the dogs can get it wrong, it is the alerts that are of importance and finding alerts that were not substantiated with the finding of a body, because the missing person was found alive.
 It seems De jesus was one and the Mathews child another, both high profile cases.
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Cadaver Dog Alerts, Missing Person Turns Up Alive.
« Reply #73 on: January 05, 2015, 10:58:01 PM »
According to some eddie never gave  a false alert in 200 cases...so how many cadavers has eddie found...is it two or three

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Cadaver Dog Alerts, Missing Person Turns Up Alive.
« Reply #74 on: January 05, 2015, 11:00:42 PM »
It doesn't mean the dog is wrong as the Mathews case proved. It doesn't mean a dead body hadn't been in there in regards to the DeJesus case. Better go to the source not from a report before claiming their dogs were wrong.

doesn't mean he's right either...could always toss a coin