Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body

[stephen25000]

so you say the alert implies cadaverine..that is NOT what Grime says....

Grime says that the dog MAY have alerted to cadaverine...so the alert actually proves nothing

The dogs indications are the closet thing to evidence in this case as to what possibly happened to Madeleine.

There is nothing else.

Grime also did not exclude the possibility  the dogs alerted to a body.

Let's not forget either, cadaverine is just one compound exuded by a corpse, it is far from the only one.

[Mr Gray]

The dogs indications are the closet thing to evidence in this case as to what possibly happened to Madeleine.

There is nothing else.

Grime also did not exclude the possibility  the dogs alerted to a body.

Let's not forget either, cadaverine is just one compound exuded by a corpse, it is far from the only one.

madeleine MAY have died in the apartment or she MAY NOT have died in the apartment...taht's all we kmow

[slartibartfast]

so you say the alert implies cadaverine..that is NOT what Grime says....

Grime says that the dog MAY have alerted to cadaverine...so the alert actually proves nothing

Who was it said..

The dog is trained to alert to cadaverine

Why you place such emphasis on a legally caveatted statement in an online discussion group is fairly transparent. It's all you have. I assume you don't take aspirin after reading the caveats around that.

[Mr Gray]

Who was it said..

Why you place such emphasis on a legally caveatted statement in an online discussion group is fairly transparent. It's all you have. I assume you don't take aspirin after reading the caveats around that.

I rely on the legally made statement and you make things up as you go along...enough said

[slartibartfast]

all authorities accept Maddie may still be alive ...... fact...what does that say about the dogs alerts

Nothing.

[Mr Gray]

Nothing.

oh yes it does...it says the alerts are not necessarily to the body of Maddie...and that is a fact you cannot deny..a fact supported by Grime who stated that the source of the alerts cannot be verified....another fact

[Eleanor]

On Topic, Please.

[stephen25000]

oh yes it does...it says the alerts are not necessarily to the body of Maddie...and that is a fact you cannot deny..a fact supported by Grime who stated that the source of the alerts cannot be verified....another fact

Until a body is found.

[slartibartfast]

oh yes it does...it says the alerts are not necessarily to the body of Maddie...and that is a fact you cannot deny..a fact supported by Grime who stated that the source of the alerts cannot be verified....another fact

Who's denying it? The police have no legally acceptable proof of her fate. The alerts are an indication that has not been eliminated.

[pathfinder73]

Think about it.  If Prout was himself contaminated with death odour (which I accept he was) then he would have transferred that odour to many places around his bungalow.  So why did the dog ONLY alert to a spot between the sofa and the patio doors?

We don't know the full facts but you usually sit on a sofa and don't go to bed wearing the same clothes. First wrapped in curtains then it's a carpet and believing the word of a person who lied for years.

[Mr Gray]

Who's denying it? The police have no legally acceptable proof of her fate. The alerts are an indication that has not been eliminated.

that's better

[faithlilly]

Think about it.  If Prout was himself contaminated with death odour (which I accept he was) then he would have transferred that odour to many places around his bungalow.  So why did the dog ONLY alert to a spot between the sofa and the patio doors?

I believe cadaver scent pools and where the dog alerts is not necessarily where the source of the scent is was placed.

[Eleanor]

I believe cadaver scent pools and where the dog alerts is not necessarily where the source of the scent is was placed.

It might pool but it certainly has to have a point of contact with something for it to exist in the first place.  And this is where it would be strongest, surely.

[Alice Purjorick]

I believe cadaver scent pools and where the dog alerts is not necessarily where the source of the scent is was placed.

The RCMP under Dr Deb Komar and the USMC established that years ago. I posted links to it on here.

[Alfred R Jones]

I believe cadaver scent pools and where the dog alerts is not necessarily where the source of the scent is was placed.

So - if a man whose clothes and hands are contaminated with cadaver odour walks all around his house contaminating everything he touches with this odour you'd expect it to pool in one spot, like behind the sofa, and leave no residual odour anywhere else is that what you're saying ?