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Author Topic: Libel trial day 14 - Statement of facts proved/not proved issued to lawyers.  (Read 147237 times)

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Offline Anna

In reply to Anna.


Did Amaral supply the books and DVD's around the world.

That was the publisher's choice.

He after all could not make them publish his theories, which the basic premise of, of course has not been disproved.

Without the book being written....It could go nowhere.
« Last Edit: January 22, 2015, 04:02:56 PM by Anna »
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline Anna

They did ignore it, for almost a year I think before taking action in Portugal. But once the book and dvd were online the action in Portugal was a bit irrelevant in relation to what their other children may see in the future anyway.

I would have continued ignoring it and concentrated on my own efforts to prove GA wrong. If you can't do that, whatever victories in courtrooms you have you won't be able to stop the speculation.

in bold:- This is true, Lyall, but how many more books may have been written, fuelling even more speculation, if no action was taken?

“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

stephen25000

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Without the book being written....I could go nowhere.

Did Amaral commit a crime in writing the book ?

Offline Eleanor

The McCanns had to do something.  They did try to ignore Amaral for nearly a year, but he just got worse, saying more and more outlandish things, on TV and in Newspapers, as the weeks went by.  Almost goading The McCanns into retaliating.

Left at the book it might have been a different story.  But Amaral was never going to do that.

Offline Anna

Did Amaral commit a crime in writing the book ?

That is not for me to decide.
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline Eleanor

Did Amaral commit a crime in writing the book ?

We shall have to wait and see.  There is still the question of The Secrecy Laws.

stephen25000

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The McCanns had to do something.  They did try to ignore Amaral for nearly a year, but he just got worse, saying more and more outlandish things, on TV and in Newspapers, as the weeks went by.  Almost goading The McCanns into retaliating.

Left at the book it might have been a different story.  But Amaral was never going to do that.

More and more outlandish.

Can you prove that ?

Offline Eleanor

More and more outlandish.

Can you prove that ?

I don't have to.  It's all on record.

stephen25000

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We shall have to wait and see.  There is still the question of The Secrecy Laws.

The trouble with, was that all the information was in the public domain, and was shared and is still shared by other people.

stephen25000

  • Guest
I don't have to.  It's all on record.

Where ?

and where has Amaral's theory of accidental death, shared by many, been disproved ?

Offline Eleanor

Where ?

and where has Amaral's theory of accidental death, shared by many, been disproved ?

Where has Amaral proved that an accidental death happened?

Offline jassi

He put it forward as a theory, not a fact, did he not?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

stephen25000

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Where has Amaral proved that an accidental death happened?

It remains a workable hypothesis.

Likewise where has abduction been proved ?

Lyall

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in bold:- This is true, Lyall, but how many more books may have been written, fuelling even more speculation, if no action was taken?

 &%+((£ Good point.

Offline Anna

So where is the report on what the judge says about WOC, they have 30 days to produce. Which apparently was asked for by the judge in 2013.

I can find no reference to this in the last "stating proven facts" on 21st Jan 2014, DCI.
Only the past request which is here.


Final claimant speech was 10th dec 2014
Libel trial McCann v Gonçalo Amaral - Day 13 – Final claimant speech

The hearing as it happened

(10.12.2014, 10 am)

All lawyers are present, except for Dra Isabel Duarte, substituted (no reason given) by her assistant, who therefore occupies her chair. Each lawyer will stand up while speaking (whereas up to this hearing they always remained sitting when speaking).
The judge Maria Emília de Melo e Castro opens the session alluding to the 30 days that are granted to the plaintiffs to obtain from the High Court the authorisation to legally represent, in this trial, their missing daughter. After this time, the lawyers (all requested it) will have 10 days to hand written alegações de direito (allegations concerning points of law and their interpretation) over to the court (whereas the matter of fact concerns what happened and how it happened, the matter of law comes under the conformity to law and justice).
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Plaintiffs_10_12_2014.htm
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“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato