Libel trial day 14 - Statement of facts proved/not proved issued to lawyers.

[Mr Gray]

There is no victory for the McCann's .

Just huge legal fees and b....r all left in the fund.

as amaral refused to settle out of court there is every chance he will have to pay the mccanns legal fees...very smart move by K&G

[stephen25000]

The delusion of certain parties after yesterday has become quite a spectacle.

Turning humiliation into perceived victory.

If they think that is going to fool anybody they are sorely mistaken, and might be recommended to seek treatment.

[stephen25000]

as amaral refused to settle out of court there is every chance he will have to pay the mccanns legal fees...very smart move by K&G

No chance.

[faithlilly]

as amaral refused to settle out of court there is every chance he will have to pay the mccanns legal fees...very smart move by K&G

 

[Mr Gray]

No chance.

I posted at the time the reason for the request to settle was to secure the legal fees

[DCI]

Ah ...

31. Until today, has the documentary been reproduced only once to be edited, published and sold in Portugal under video format, in this case a DVD?

Proved.

32. The reproduction and edition of the documentary in video format have been authorised by “Valentim de Carvalho Multimédia, S.A.” to firm “Presslivre, Imprensa Livre, S.A.”, the owner of the Correio da Manhã newspaper, according to a contract between both?

Proved.

33. Under which [contract], the DVD, its covers and packages would be, as they were, manufactured on behalf of, under order of and under the responsibility of Presslivre, in order to be distributed and sold together with newspaper Correio da Manhã?

Proved.

34. And the entire process of registering and classifying the video edition (DVD) of the documentary with ICAG would be, as it was, developed by Valentim de Carvalho Multimédia, a process whose cost would be carried by Presslivre, as it did?

Proved.

35. The distribution for sale took place in conjunction with the distribution for sale of the newspaper Correio da Manhã’s edition of April 24, 2009?

It is proved only that the documentary was distributed for sale with the newspaper.

36. The documentary was reproduced, and even subtitled in the English language, by third parties that published it on the internet, without permission and against the will of the defendant “V.C. – Valentim de Carvalho – Filmes, Audiovisuais, S.A.”?

Proved.

37. That illicit diffusion damages not only the rights that are held by defendant “V.C. – Valentim de Carvalho – Filmes, Audiovisuais, S.A.” over the documentary, but also its commercial exploration, because any citizen can watch the documentary, also only one “click” away?

Proved.


There were a few more.

[jassi]

31. Until today, has the documentary been reproduced only once to be edited, published and sold in Portugal under video format, in this case a DVD?

Proved.

32. The reproduction and edition of the documentary in video format have been authorised by “Valentim de Carvalho Multimédia, S.A.” to firm “Presslivre, Imprensa Livre, S.A.”, the owner of the Correio da Manhã newspaper, according to a contract between both?

Proved.

33. Under which [contract], the DVD, its covers and packages would be, as they were, manufactured on behalf of, under order of and under the responsibility of Presslivre, in order to be distributed and sold together with newspaper Correio da Manhã?

Proved.

34. And the entire process of registering and classifying the video edition (DVD) of the documentary with ICAG would be, as it was, developed by Valentim de Carvalho Multimédia, a process whose cost would be carried by Presslivre, as it did?

Proved.

35. The distribution for sale took place in conjunction with the distribution for sale of the newspaper Correio da Manhã’s edition of April 24, 2009?

It is proved only that the documentary was distributed for sale with the newspaper.

36. The documentary was reproduced, and even subtitled in the English language, by third parties that published it on the internet, without permission and against the will of the defendant “V.C. – Valentim de Carvalho – Filmes, Audiovisuais, S.A.”?

Proved.

37. That illicit diffusion damages not only the rights that are held by defendant “V.C. – Valentim de Carvalho – Filmes, Audiovisuais, S.A.” over the documentary, but also its commercial exploration, because any citizen can watch the documentary, also only one “click” away?

Proved.


There were a few more.

But what do they actually prove? They  merely seem to be confirmation of certain facts that weren't in contention.

[stephen25000]

But what do they actually prove? They  merely seem to be confirmation of certain facts that weren't in contention.

Precisely Jassi.

[Miss Taken Identity]

The McCann's spent more time and money on this court case to defend their reputation... and in that process lost it in my and many others opinion.

There are no winners- Madeline is still missing - and who knows what would have happened if the Portuguese legal system and police detectives were not sneered and jeered at by the baying McCANN hyenas. "jemmied shutters indeed"! and the UK MSM.

They all made money from a little girls suffering- who knows what happened to her?


It was always about the money and reputation! No winner there, regardless of compensation- blood money!! and vulgar to pursue for it!


The book would have upset them...that goes without saying. < layman's terms!

[Mr Gray]

The McCann's spent more time and money on this court case to defend their reputation... and in that process lost it in my and many others opinion.

There are no winners- Madeline is still missing - and who knows what would have happened if the Portuguese legal system and police detectives were not sneered and jeered at by the baying McCANN hyenas. "jemmied shutters indeed"! and the UK MSM.

They all made money from a little girls suffering- who knows what happened to her?

It was always about the money and reputation! No winner there, regardless of compensation- blood money!! and vulgar to pursue for it!


The book would have upset them...that goes without saying. < layman's terms!

no winners...but certainly a loser...deservedly so...amaral

you are right...compensation will be paid...and the blood money made by amaral will paid to the fund

[Matt Erixon]

"Judge: No evidence that book about Maddie "destroyed" parents"

PUBLISHED 18.40
UPDATED TODAY  20.32

A judge of the courthouse Lisbon held, on Wednesday, that the McCann couple has not been damaged because of the publication of the book "The Truth of the Lie", written by Gonçalo Amaral, where the ex - PJ coordinator argues the responsibility of Kate and Gerry in their daughter's disappearance.
Judge Emilia Melo e Castro, the assessment of the requirements of civil proceedings instituted by Kate and Gerry McCann Gonçalo Amaral for the publication of the book "Maddie, the truth of the lie," says, in order that the JN had access, that "there was proof that Kate and Gerry McCann authors are destroyed points of moral, social and ethical "with the publication of the book
Recognizing that the British couple felt "anger, despair and anguish," the magistrate said not possible, "from the available evidence, to discern" where the alleged damage attributed to Gonçalo Amaral are "a consequence of the disappearance of Madeleine" or "effect book. "
Melo e Castro said that "the family point of view the evidence revealed a successful effort cohesion" of the couple. It also found that "the sentimental / emotional point of view is not credible that the consequences of the facts of these proceedings will to the point of destruction or well beyond the pain caused by the disappearance of the daughter of those authors."
Gonçalo Amaral, told JN that he is satisfied with the decision of the magistrate, pointing out that "what was at issue was proving or disproving facts".


http://www.jn.pt/Dossies/dossie.aspx?content_id=4357454&dossier=O%20caso%20Maddie%20McCann

[Mr Gray]

"Judge: No evidence that book about Maddie "destroyed" parents"

PUBLISHED 18.40
UPDATED TODAY  20.32

A judge of the courthouse Lisbon held, on Wednesday, that the McCann couple has not been damaged because of the publication of the book "The Truth of the Lie", written by Gonçalo Amaral, where the ex - PJ coordinator argues the responsibility of Kate and Gerry in their daughter's disappearance.
Judge Emilia Melo e Castro, the assessment of the requirements of civil proceedings instituted by Kate and Gerry McCann Gonçalo Amaral for the publication of the book "Maddie, the truth of the lie," says, in order that the JN had access, that "there was proof that Kate and Gerry McCann authors are destroyed points of moral, social and ethical "with the publication of the book
Recognizing that the British couple felt "anger, despair and anguish," the magistrate said not possible, "from the available evidence, to discern" where the alleged damage attributed to Gonçalo Amaral are "a consequence of the disappearance of Madeleine" or "effect book. "
Melo e Castro said that "the family point of view the evidence revealed a successful effort cohesion" of the couple. It also found that "the sentimental / emotional point of view is not credible that the consequences of the facts of these proceedings will to the point of destruction or well beyond the pain caused by the disappearance of the daughter of those authors."
Gonçalo Amaral, told JN that he is satisfied with the decision of the magistrate, pointing out that "what was at issue was proving or disproving facts".


http://www.jn.pt/Dossies/dossie.aspx?content_id=4357454&dossier=O%20caso%20Maddie%20McCann

we know what the judge said...and it wasn't that

[DCI]

we know what the judge said...and it wasn't that

Cuckoo

[faithlilly]

we know what the judge said...and it wasn't that

So every paper except the Express has got it wrong ? Is that what you are trying to say ?

[Lyall]

The McCann's spent more time and money on this court case to defend their reputation... and in that process lost it in my and many others opinion.

There are no winners- Madeline is still missing - and who knows what would have happened if the Portuguese legal system and police detectives were not sneered and jeered at by the baying McCANN hyenas. "jemmied shutters indeed"! and the UK MSM.

They all made money from a little girls suffering- who knows what happened to her?

It was always about the money and reputation! No winner there, regardless of compensation- blood money!! and vulgar to pursue for it!


The book would have upset them...that goes without saying. < layman's terms!

They're fighting for what history will say about the case (to their other children), Miss Taken, which means erasing/discrediting as much as possible of what was said before 2011. Obviously no easy task in a case as unique and high profile as this one.