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Author Topic: Libel trial day 14 - Statement of facts proved/not proved issued to lawyers.  (Read 146666 times)

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ferryman

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Posted by portugalpress on January 25, 2015

http://portugalresident.com/as-dust-set ... ctly-shaky

As dust settles on judge’s findings, McCann €1.2 million “libel win” looks distinctly shaky

It took some hours for the much-awaited “reading of the proven facts” to come through last week - and even then newspapers here and abroad got it wrong.

In Britain, the Daily Express ran with the headline: “Kate and Gerry McCann win court ruling in £1 million libel battle against ex-police chief”.

Here, Lusa news agency proclaimed “Court rules damages caused by Gonçalo Amaral to Kate and Gerry McCann proved”.

But they both jumped the gun.

Within hours Público realised the mistake and pulled the Lusa story from its website, running instead with the much-fairer “Court proves Kate and Gerry McCann were “not destroyed” by book by Gonçalo Amaral”.

Lusa regained its equilibrium, posting a revised story the next day carrying much the same headline.

And then this morning (Sunday), four days after judge Emília Mello e Castro handed the lawyers her “reading of the proven facts” - the cornerstones on which she will base her judgement on the long-running case - the Express has done a complete U-turn, running with a new headline proclaiming: “Exclusive: McCann’s will lose £1 million libel trial”

In fact, the exclusive belongs to the Algarve’s Len Port - the only journalist who got the story right first time.

Writing on his Portugal Newswatch blogsite, reproduced regularly by this Portugal Resident news portal, Port’s Wednesday post: “Amaral supporters optimistic about judge’s rulings in McCann libel case” was, in the end, a far more succinct version of what unfolded in Lisbon four days ago.

The reason for the confusion was perhaps two-fold. First, it took reporters time to get their hands on Emília Mello e Castro’s complete list of “proven facts” in the case that centres on Amaral’s book, A Verdade da Mentira (The Truth of the Lie); and second, there appears to have been a degree of press manipulation.

But now that the facts are in the public domain, we can summarise key findings.

Certainly, the likelihood of a resounding McCann win looks distinctly shaky.

Port’s report of “cautious optimism” among Amaral supporters was in itself characteristically cautious.

Supporters of the beleaguered former police inspector targeted by the McCann’s are positively crowing from the rooftops.

“As of Wednesday, the McCann ship is beyond repair”, jubilant Textusa blog reported.

The UK’s Miscarriage of Justice forum took to Twitter to confirm: “Court holds as not proven that book hampered search for Madeleine”, while myriad followers of the case were enthusiastic about what they called the “wonderful news coming from Portugal”.

It was a window in on the welter of support for Amaral’s right to have written his hypothesis for the disappearance of the world’s most famous missing person seven years ago.

As he has frequently told interviewers since the McCann’s lodged their civil action for a reported €1.2 million in damages against him, his life has been made a misery by their action and his “civil position” a target for what he terms “assassination”.

Talking to RTP as the dust began to settle last week, Amaral elaborated on the hiccups caused by what he termed “complete manipulation of the media”.

“Lusa agency, since all of this began, has been taking sides”, he said. “I wouldn’t say as much as they have taken the side of the couple, but they have taken the side of the couple’s lawyer. So there has been completely false news about me”.

Amaral also elaborated on the “assassination of his civil position”.

“In 2009, in January of 2009, I lived in the Algarve and was indicated to run for mayor of Olhão on behalf of the Social Democratic Party [PSD]. That alerted the family and Mr Gerald McCann came to Lisbon… he met with a top political official from PSD who has a French surname, with Dr Rogério Alves and with Dr Isabel Duarte… what happened then was that PSD gave me up as a candidate. This puts the rights of a citizen, the rights of a Portuguese citizen, at stake”.

It was at this point, Amaral told his interviewer, that the McCanns started “thinking about the lawsuit” that is now in its final stages.

Key facts proven and unproven:

Because of the statements made by defendant Gonçalo Amaral in the book (Truth of the Lie), in the documentary and in the interview to Correio da Manhã, the Polícia Judiciária stopped collecting information and investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann? Not proved

Because of the statements made by defendant Gonçalo Amaral in the book, in the documentary and in the interview to Correio da Manhã, authors Kate McCann and Gerald McCann are completely destroyed, from a moral, social, ethical, sentimental, family point of view, much beyond the pain that their daughter’s absence causes them? Not proved

Because of the statements made by defendant Gonçalo Amaral in the book, in the documentary and in the interview to Correio da Manhã, authors Kate McCann and Gerald McCann suffer permanent anguish, insomnia, lack of appetite, anxiety and irritability, preoccupation and indefinable fear? Proved, but the judge adds that this psychological state is pre-existent to the book, the documentary and the interview and was not caused by the book. Nonetheless, it cannot be reasonable to believe that the book, the documentary and the interview had no effect on the couple, i.e. It had an effect but that is perfectly normal.

Because of defendant Gonçalo Amaral’s statements in the book, in the documentary and in the interview to Correio da Manhã, author Kate McCann is immersed in a deep and serious depression, which has already made her state publicly “I wish I was in a coma, to relieve the pain”? Not proved

The attention of the media and of people in general diminished when defendant Gonçalo Amaral’s book was published? Not proved

For a full list of the proven facts, see the maddiecasefiles.com.

As Len Port explained in his initial report on the judge’s findings: “The McCanns now have time to seek and present authorisation from the British High Court to formally represent their daughter in this case. Madeleine was made a ward of court at the instigation of her parents in April 2008. This could have a bearing on the amount of any compensation eventually awarded”.

“No date has been set for a verdict but it is thought to be more than two months away. Even when it comes, the verdict will probably not be the end of the matter. An appeal is likely.”

The veteran journalist concluded: “Amaral has let it be known that he is considering instigating a counter defamation lawsuit against the McCanns to seek compensation for the enormous damages on different levels he claims they have caused him”.

http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic24321.html

Piece authored by Natasha Don ....

Bit like Len Port, only female ...

Offline Anna

Piece authored by Natasha Don ....

Bit like Len Port, only female ...

I believe, Len Port wrote the same piece.
It is only fair to show all versions in the press.
There are so many contradictions in the news.
Nobody is going to know for sure, what the outcome is until the Judge gives her verdict. So its wait and see really.
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline Montclair

The Daily Mail now reports on the trial:

Kate and Gerry McCann suffered 'anguish, rage and desperation' from
ex-police chief's book about missing Madeleine, judge finds


But Emilio Melo e Castro says pain they felt existed before publication
Goncalo Amaral claims they faked disappearance to cover up death
Finding emerges ahead of final judgement in long-running libel trial
McCanns accuse former detective of hampering the search for girl




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2925419/Kate-Gerry-McCann-hurt-former-police-chief-s-book-missing-Madeleine-judge-finds.html
« Last Edit: January 26, 2015, 02:45:59 AM by John »

Offline Mr Gray

The Daily Mail now reports on the trial:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2925419/Kate-Gerry-McCann-hurt-former-police-chief-s-book-missing-Madeleine-judge-finds.html

the mail states...
The rulings left Mr Amaral confident of court victory next month

This isn't what amaral said...so I don't give too much credence to the article. Just a rehash...and an inaccurate one...of amaral's statement

Offline jassi

I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Alice Purjorick

Is it my imagination or is the prospective member for Brighton Pavilion remarkably quiet?
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stephen25000

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Is it my imagination or is the prospective member for Brighton Pavilion remarkably quiet?

He may be closer than you think. 8)--))

Offline Brietta

After starting off a little on the back foot it didn't take the troops too long to rally and get the message out there ... for the rest of us, we will just have to wait a little longer for the truth to emerge in the Judge's final ruling when there will be no ambiguity.

However I find the statement from Dr Amaral that Robert Murat is an arguido again intriguing ... I think it was Misty who wondered if this was the reason he was accompanied to his interview with the PJ and SY by a lawyer.

If Dr Amaral has stated it as fact on National TV, we have no reason to believe that is not the case, so are we secure in saying " it seems Robert Murat is an arguido"? 

 

**snip
None of them did it, the couple because they didn’t want to, they didn’t want to do it, and the other person because he received compensation from the British courts, so he didn’t do it, he was very satisfied, and now it seems that he is an arguido again. This is what happens –
video: http://www.rtp.pt/play/p1629/e180119/agora-nos/405316 - interview starts at 22:43
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

ferryman

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After starting off a little on the back foot it didn't take the troops too long to rally and get the message out there ... for the rest of us, we will just have to wait a little longer for the truth to emerge in the Judge's final ruling when there will be no ambiguity.

However I find the statement from Dr Amaral that Robert Murat is an arguido again intriguing ... I think it was Misty who wondered if this was the reason he was accompanied to his interview with the PJ and SY by a lawyer.

If Dr Amaral has stated it as fact on National TV, we have no reason to believe that is not the case, so are we secure in saying " it seems Robert Murat is an arguido"? 

 

**snip
None of them did it, the couple because they didn’t want to, they didn’t want to do it, and the other person because he received compensation from the British courts, so he didn’t do it, he was very satisfied, and now it seems that he is an arguido again. This is what happens –
video: http://www.rtp.pt/play/p1629/e180119/agora-nos/405316 - interview starts at 22:43

It was me who wondered that, and Carana replied.

It seems there has been a change in the law that allows informal witnesses to be accompanied by their lawyers for police interviews.

I've no doubt Carana's facts are right.

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Offline Carana

A poll has been added at the start of this thread.

Punitive damages aren't allowed in PT, AFAIK, unless there's been a recent change in that respect (which I doubt).

stephen25000

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So did the mccanns put out through their 'source close to the mccanns' that they had won the trial, and then the Express in embarrassment, have to tell the truth ?

Offline jassi

So did the mccanns put out through their 'source close to the mccanns' that they had won the trial, and then the Express in embarrassment, have to tell the truth ?


Funnily enough I haven't seen anything of that nature. Surely he's not lost for words.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

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OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline DCI

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interesting point....I'm sure the judge will be most impressed with amaral pre empting her decision...whilst the McCanns maintain a dignified silence

Yes, and that reports were plastered all over the net. Obtained illegally???
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Offline jassi

Why should it be illegal - did the lawyers take a vow of silence?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future