Libel trial day 14 - Statement of facts proved/not proved issued to lawyers.

[slartibartfast]

I doubt it, but then if Gonc wants to counter-sue he would have to do so in the UK presumably - I wonder if he's got the stamina (and the funds) for another court case in a foreign country, as well as fighting any appeal that might take place in his own with regard the current trial....

I see no reason why he shouldn't sue in PT if he wanted to.

[Alfred R Jones]

I see no reason why he shouldn't sue in PT if he wanted to.

What prevented the McCanns from suing him in England then?

[slartibartfast]

What prevented the McCanns from suing him in England then?

The book wasn't published in England.

[Alfred R Jones]

The book wasn't published in England.

So what have the McCanns published in Portugal then that has libelled Amaral?

[stephen25000]

So what have the McCanns published in Portugal then that has libelled Amaral?

It won't be about libel.

[slartibartfast]

So what have the McCanns published in Portugal then that has libelled Amaral?

It is about damage not libel.

[stephen25000]

It is about damage not libel.

Precisely.

[Montclair]

what I am saying is that an award of costs against the mccanns would not be enforceable in the uk

As someone explained to me, in Portugal, the parties involved in any court case pay the costs in advance and the losing party just doesn't get reimbursed.

[Montclair]

And, on the topic of libel and arguidos, has any news outlet besides Amaral's latest interview confirmed that Murat is an arguido again? Or was that another mistake on his part?

Amaral said: "It seems Murat is an arguido", he did not state it as a fact.

[stephen25000]

As someone explained to me, in Portugal, the parties involved in any court case pay the costs in advance and the losing party just doesn't get reimbursed.

How can the costs be paid in advance if the length of the case is unknown, or is it a fixed charge ?

Or do the parties have to pay a deposit towards their costs ?

[Montclair]

How can the costs be paid in advance if the length of the case is unknown, or is it a fixed charge ?

Or do the parties have to pay a deposit towards their costs ?

They pay as they go along for every paper they ask for, every appeal, every document given to the court, etc. beforehand. They don't make one big payment at the beginning.

[stephen25000]

They pay as they go along for every paper they ask for, every appeal, every document given to the court, etc. beforehand. They don't make one big payment at the beginning.

Thanks for that information Montclair.

[jassi]

Perhaps that is one of the reasons that the fund appears deleted.

Would the lawyers require interim payments as well, particularly considering the length of time this has dragged on?

[Benice]

Amaral said: "It seems Murat is an arguido", he did not state it as a fact.

Oh that's OK then.   Obviously he had no intentions of deliberately  conveying that misinformation to his audience  - he just said it because.................................of what?

I wonder if Murat will take steps to demand a retraction.   He should do IMO.   A retraction/apology would be automatic in this country imo.   

[slartibartfast]

Oh that's OK then.   Obviously he had no intentions of deliberately  conveying that misinformation to his audience  - he just said it because.................................of what?

I wonder if Murat will take steps to demand a retraction.   He should do IMO.   A retraction/apology would be automatic in this country imo.

However as we are constantly told arguido does not mean suspect so it isn't really an issue.