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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Were there too many leaks in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #30 on: January 30, 2015, 11:32:07 PM »
So point 1. You have not proved that Rebelo's early return to Portugal was anything to do with any leak.

Point 2. Have you any evidence that implicates the PJ in the leak ? There was a number of people who knew about the 'why didn't you come' comment, not least of them Fiona Payne, Jane Tanner and Rachel Oldfield, their partners and the Leicestershire police who would have seen the original statements and had just been reminded of the comment by the aforementioned ladies. Oh and of course the McCanns.
Why would any of these people leak information considered to be of a damaging nature to the McCanns?  Why not leak something a little less contentious?  Why do you struggle to believe the PJ would ever do such a thing?  It's not like it would have been the first time would it?  All rhetorical questions which I don't expect you to (be able to) answer.

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Re: Were there too many leaks in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #31 on: January 30, 2015, 11:46:53 PM »
Why would any of these people leak information considered to be of a damaging nature to the McCanns?  Why not leak something a little less contentious?  Why do you struggle to believe the PJ would ever do such a thing?  It's not like it would have been the first time would it?  All rhetorical questions which I don't expect you to (be able to) answer.

Well a Leicestershire police employee may have because  he was sickened to the stomach with the thought that even though Madeleine had told her mother and father that she and her siblings were crying while left alone and still her parents left her the next night.

One of their friends might have because of the havoc the circus the McCanns had created was having on their lives ( perhaps it was the same friend who released the 'F**k off ' mobile phone footage of Gerry to the media ).

Or even Mitchell himself to deflect from the spectacle of the Rogatories and to justify their and their friends reconstitution refusal. You said it yourself , why would something so damaging be released especially by the McCanns ? That is exactly what a clever PR man would want the public to think.
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Were there too many leaks in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #32 on: January 30, 2015, 11:57:14 PM »
Well a Leicestershire police employee may have because  he was sickened to the stomach with the thought that even though Madeleine had told her mother and father that she and her siblings were crying while left alone and still her parents left her the next night.

One of their friends might have because of the havoc the circus the McCanns had created was having on their lives ( perhaps it was the same friend who released the 'F**k off ' mobile phone footage of Gerry to the media ).

Or even Mitchell himself to deflect from the spectacle of the Rogatories and to justify their and their friends reconstitution refusal. You said it yourself , why would something so damaging be released especially by the McCanns ? That is exactly what a clever PR man would want the public to think.
And why do you discount the idea that the leak cam from the Portuguese police, seeing as the leak occurred in Portugal, to a Portuguese paper?  Why do you favour the far more improbable sources as listed above?

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Were there too many leaks in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #33 on: January 30, 2015, 11:59:04 PM »
PS: what was the spectacle of the Rogatories...?

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Re: Were there too many leaks in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #34 on: January 31, 2015, 12:01:49 AM »
And why do you discount the idea that the leak cam from the Portuguese police, seeing as the leak occurred in Portugal, to a Portuguese paper?  Why do you favour the far more improbable sources as listed above?

Thought it was a Spanish paper/TV station?

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Re: Were there too many leaks in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #35 on: January 31, 2015, 12:02:49 AM »
Why would any of these people leak information considered to be of a damaging nature to the McCanns?  Why not leak something a little less contentious?  Why do you struggle to believe the PJ would ever do such a thing?  It's not like it would have been the first time would it?  All rhetorical questions which I don't expect you to (be able to) answer.

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It was the first time the McCanns' friends had been named in public, but Sol's journalist Felicia Cabrita had their names and phone numbers and details from their witness statements.
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The information had been handed to Cabrita by the police - she says she acquired the material through good journalism, which in a sense it was - and her source is widely believed by her colleagues to have been the former head of the inquiry, Goncalo Amaral.


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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Were there too many leaks in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #36 on: January 31, 2015, 12:02:59 AM »
Do you think Clarence, the McCanns or their friends had in their possession transcripts of their police statements?  Do you think Clarence would choose the day the McCanns went to Portugal to launch the Amber Alert scheme as the best day to leak these transcripts which he didn't have in his possession?  Get real Faithlilly.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Were there too many leaks in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #37 on: January 31, 2015, 12:03:38 AM »
Thought it was a Spanish paper/TV station?
My mistake.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Were there too many leaks in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #38 on: January 31, 2015, 12:05:48 AM »
It added: "At the end of last week, the Spanish television station Telecinco broadcast a news piece saying it had exclusive access to alleged declarations by the McCann couple to 'investigators' looking into the disappearance of Madeleine.

So, straight from the police statements then.

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Re: Were there too many leaks in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #39 on: January 31, 2015, 12:07:10 AM »
And why do you discount the idea that the leak cam from the Portuguese police, seeing as the leak occurred in Portugal, to a Portuguese paper?  Why do you favour the far more improbable sources as listed above?

And why do you discount the leak was from another source other than the PJ ? The McCanns employed a Portuguese PR company. This is exactly the sort of thing they'd be employed to do.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Lyall

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Re: Were there too many leaks in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #40 on: January 31, 2015, 12:07:37 AM »
It added: "At the end of last week, the Spanish television station Telecinco broadcast a news piece saying it had exclusive access to alleged declarations by the McCann couple to 'investigators' looking into the disappearance of Madeleine.

So, straight from the police statements then.

Do you think all leaks came from one place, or a mixture of places?

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Were there too many leaks in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #41 on: January 31, 2015, 12:08:10 AM »
And why do you discount the leak was from another source other than the PJ ? The McCanns employed a Portuguese PR company. This is exactly the sort of thing they'd be employed to do.
And how did they come by copies of the police statements?

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Were there too many leaks in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #42 on: January 31, 2015, 12:09:44 AM »
Do you think all leaks came from one place, or a mixture of places?
Who knows? How many places had copies of transcripts of the McCanns statements? 

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Re: Were there too many leaks in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #43 on: January 31, 2015, 12:11:40 AM »
Thought it was a Spanish paper/TV station?

Madeleine Case - A Pact of Silence SOL

By Felicia Cabrita and Margarida Davim

30 June 2007

Thanks
Astro for translation

- Extract -

Only Jane saw the man carrying a child

But there is a witness whose deposition contradicts this theory. Jeremy Wilkins - a TV producer who had met Maddie's father during their holidays and used to play tennis with him - was walking his eight months old son at that time. He met Gerry, who went out through the apartment's back door after having checked on the children, and the two men exchanged a brief conversation. At that time, if one is to believe the first accounts, Jane would have left Tapas in the direction of the apartment's main entrance, and would have crossed paths with both of them. "It was a very narrow road and I think it would have been almost impossible to walk by without me taking notice", Jeremy says, pointing out the fact that he saw no man carrying a child, as Jane states.

But Jane continues to guarantee that, at the top of the street, she saw a man with a child in his arms.

Although the area is scarcely lit, and the situation did not make her suspicious at the time, she describes the beige trousers, the dark thick jacket and the black classic-style shoes in a detailed way. Once again, Jeremy disagrees: "If that happened, I would have likely seen it".


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Bridget O'Donnell / David James Smith

It was the first time the McCanns' friends had been named in public, but Sol's journalist Felicia Cabrita had their names and phone numbers and details from their witness statements.
...
The information had been handed to Cabrita by the police - she says she acquired the material through good journalism, which in a sense it was - and her source is widely believed by her colleagues to have been the former head of the inquiry, Goncalo Amaral.
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Were there too many leaks in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #44 on: January 31, 2015, 12:12:53 AM »
And why do you discount the leak was from another source other than the PJ ? The McCanns employed a Portuguese PR company. This is exactly the sort of thing they'd be employed to do.
BTW PR firms are usually employed to positively manage clients' reputations, not plant negative stories about them in the press, except in the topsy-turvy world of the 'sceptic".  Now, tell me why it just couldn't have been the PJ?