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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral breach Portuguese secrecy laws?
« Reply #60 on: February 08, 2015, 07:20:16 PM »
I wonder what happened to the almost €8,000 in his fund?

Seems Santos de Oliveira, got the same treatment as Cabrita did.
Spent some on slow horses and fast women then just wasted the rest I guess  8(>((
He's a real dodgy dude that one.
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Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral breach Portuguese secrecy laws?
« Reply #61 on: February 08, 2015, 07:36:18 PM »
Spent some on slow horses and fast women then just wasted the rest I guess  8(>((
He's a real dodgy dude that one.

Oh the dodgiest !!  @)(++(*
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Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral breach Portuguese secrecy laws?
« Reply #62 on: February 08, 2015, 07:43:30 PM »
Spent some on slow horses and fast women then just wasted the rest I guess  8(>((
He's a real dodgy dude that one.

Nah! €2,000 was paid to Cabrita for outstanding fees. I wonder why Cabrita wrote a letter to the courts saying that he renounced to all the powers of attorney from Amaral.
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Offline Anna

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral breach Portuguese secrecy laws?
« Reply #63 on: February 08, 2015, 08:10:41 PM »
There have been a few prosecutions in Portugal

- PJ inspector José Torrão (Setúbal) got an 8-month suspended sentence for leaking about the never-ending Freeport saga (but he was seemingly caught red-handed). I have no idea if the sentence was upheld on appeal or not.

Inspector da PJ condenado a 8 meses de pena suspensa
Data: 2007.07.18
Fonte: JN
Autor: Redacção

Jornalistas Inês Serra Lopes e Francisco Teixeira foram absolvidos. O ex-inspector da PJ José Torrão foi ontem condenado a oito meses de pena suspensa por violação de segredo de justiça, no âmbito do caso Freeport . A pena foi suspensa por 18 meses, mediante o compromisso de entregar cinco mil euros   Quercus. Os dois jornalistas envolvidos no processo, Inês Serra Lopes e Francisco Teixeira, foram absolvidos do mesmo crime, de acordo com a Lusa. A defesa do ex-inspector da PJ de Setúbal anunciou que vai decorrer da sentença para o Tribunal da Relação de Lisboa.

http://www.tretas.org/Freeport/Artigos

- There was another prosecution involving quite a few PJ officers in the Casa Pia affair, IIRC. I'll add a link when I find one.

- There also seem to be noises about cracking down on it more generally, but it might just be... noise.
http://pesquisa.rtp.pt/default.aspx?relid=19230&ind=rtpnoticias

- A general article by Henrique Monteiro (11 Jan 2014) on the subject, discussing various options ETA I modified my original wording to read: from the perspective of journalists. Unfortunately, I can only get the gist of it as his prose is somewhat above that of CdaM.

A general summary of what I think I understand (with apologies if I've got some of it wrong and the points don't necessarily follow the ones made in the article):

The gripe seems to be that judicial secrecy is in theory so all-encompassing that journalists have a hard time doing their job. Some end up as arguidos and are not even sure what they've done wrong. Others often completely ignore it, which ironically sometimes leads to cases of injustice. (He mentions the "British example" early on - by which I presume he means the Leveson inquiry.)

One proposal on the table appears to be recorded conversations between journalists and their sources... (I can't see that ever happening.)

His view seems to be that judicial secrecy should be the exception rather than the norm, and journalists should be given more access to information, with clearer guidelines as to the boundaries, as well as being given justified reasons why some cases may need to be off limits (I'm not sure if he means during the investigation phase or whether he means the entire judicial process). If journalists are told to shut up, then all journalists must respect it and clear sanctions should be imposed if it is broken.

http://expresso.sapo.pt/contra-o-segredo-de-justica-e-um-aplauso-a-pgr=f850074

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Offline Anna

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral breach Portuguese secrecy laws?
« Reply #64 on: February 08, 2015, 08:12:17 PM »
Can we now please try and stay close to topic....I know, I strayed too.
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Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral breach Portuguese secrecy laws?
« Reply #65 on: February 09, 2015, 10:44:17 AM »
Another of Amaral's pal up in court at last. The one that used to be stuck to his side when in court, till he was found to be another PJ crook. Two of them in this scam.

Pereira Cistovao comes to court bar

Antena 1
Feb 05, 2015 24:38

The trial of former leader of the Sporting Paulo Pereira Cristovao is scheduled for April 8, starting at 9:30 am.

The same will take place in the first section of the Lisbon criminal district.

The defendants in this case are Paulo Pereira Cristovao and Victor Viegas.

The first was vice president of the Alvalade club between March 26, 2011 and June 24, 2012.

Victor Viegas ex PJ -inspector in May 2011 set up a company at the request of Pereira Cristovao in order to provide services to the Sporting including advice on personal and social life of Leo players.

In the indictment it is stated that Paulo Pereira Cristovao had a list with tax identification number , NIB, income, real estate ownership and referees furniture, assistant referees, league observers and respective spouses.

Joseph Cardinal assistant referee that was not the Pereira Cristovao of satisfaction was named to the Sporting-Marítimo of Portugal Cup in 2011 and the old white green leader will have chalked a plan by which would deposit by a stranger in Funchal, in the referee's bank account a certain amount of money. Then would deliver the respective deposit slip to the police authorities thus creating suspicion and manufacturing practice material evidence of corruption crimes by the assistant referee Joseph Cardinal and someone Maritime.

two thousand euros were deposited at Cardinal and Paulo Pereira Cristovao account denounced the alleged corruption to the PJ.

According to what Antena 1 found Pereira Christopher is accused of a serious fraud crime, a crime of money laundering, two counts of embezzlement, an illegitimate access to computer crime through database and one wanton crime by slanderous denunciation.

In addition to the "Cardinal case," Paulo Pereira Cristovao is also accused of having improperly seized 57 thousand euros that used for personal purposes. In instructory decision is said that the abundance of existing evidence in the record supports the facts narrated in the indictment.


http://www.rtp.pt/noticias/index.php?article=802547&tm=45&layout=158&visual=49


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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral breach Portuguese secrecy laws?
« Reply #66 on: February 09, 2015, 10:56:42 AM »
Another of Amaral's pal up in court at last. The one that used to be stuck to his side when in court, till he was found to be another PJ crook. Two of them in this scam.

Pereira Cistovao comes to court bar

Antena 1
Feb 05, 2015 24:38

The trial of former leader of the Sporting Paulo Pereira Cristovao is scheduled for April 8, starting at 9:30 am.

The same will take place in the first section of the Lisbon criminal district.

The defendants in this case are Paulo Pereira Cristovao and Victor Viegas.

The first was vice president of the Alvalade club between March 26, 2011 and June 24, 2012.

Victor Viegas ex PJ -inspector in May 2011 set up a company at the request of Pereira Cristovao in order to provide services to the Sporting including advice on personal and social life of Leo players.

In the indictment it is stated that Paulo Pereira Cristovao had a list with tax identification number , NIB, income, real estate ownership and referees furniture, assistant referees, league observers and respective spouses.

Joseph Cardinal assistant referee that was not the Pereira Cristovao of satisfaction was named to the Sporting-Marítimo of Portugal Cup in 2011 and the old white green leader will have chalked a plan by which would deposit by a stranger in Funchal, in the referee's bank account a certain amount of money. Then would deliver the respective deposit slip to the police authorities thus creating suspicion and manufacturing practice material evidence of corruption crimes by the assistant referee Joseph Cardinal and someone Maritime.

two thousand euros were deposited at Cardinal and Paulo Pereira Cristovao account denounced the alleged corruption to the PJ.

According to what Antena 1 found Pereira Christopher is accused of a serious fraud crime, a crime of money laundering, two counts of embezzlement, an illegitimate access to computer crime through database and one wanton crime by slanderous denunciation.

In addition to the "Cardinal case," Paulo Pereira Cristovao is also accused of having improperly seized 57 thousand euros that used for personal purposes. In instructory decision is said that the abundance of existing evidence in the record supports the facts narrated in the indictment.


http://www.rtp.pt/noticias/index.php?article=802547&tm=45&layout=158&visual=49

Shades of the Brighton Police Force in the late 1950s.
Now why is Brighton ringing bells in my head?. Oh I remember now!
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral breach Portuguese secrecy laws?
« Reply #67 on: February 09, 2015, 11:06:40 AM »
Another of Amaral's pal up in court at last. The one that used to be stuck to his side when in court, till he was found to be another PJ crook. Two of them in this scam.

Pereira Cistovao comes to court bar

Antena 1
Feb 05, 2015 24:38

The trial of former leader of the Sporting Paulo Pereira Cristovao is scheduled for April 8, starting at 9:30 am.

The same will take place in the first section of the Lisbon criminal district.

The defendants in this case are Paulo Pereira Cristovao and Victor Viegas.

The first was vice president of the Alvalade club between March 26, 2011 and June 24, 2012.

Victor Viegas ex PJ -inspector in May 2011 set up a company at the request of Pereira Cristovao in order to provide services to the Sporting including advice on personal and social life of Leo players.

In the indictment it is stated that Paulo Pereira Cristovao had a list with tax identification number , NIB, income, real estate ownership and referees furniture, assistant referees, league observers and respective spouses.

Joseph Cardinal assistant referee that was not the Pereira Cristovao of satisfaction was named to the Sporting-Marítimo of Portugal Cup in 2011 and the old white green leader will have chalked a plan by which would deposit by a stranger in Funchal, in the referee's bank account a certain amount of money. Then would deliver the respective deposit slip to the police authorities thus creating suspicion and manufacturing practice material evidence of corruption crimes by the assistant referee Joseph Cardinal and someone Maritime.

two thousand euros were deposited at Cardinal and Paulo Pereira Cristovao account denounced the alleged corruption to the PJ.

According to what Antena 1 found Pereira Christopher is accused of a serious fraud crime, a crime of money laundering, two counts of embezzlement, an illegitimate access to computer crime through database and one wanton crime by slanderous denunciation.

In addition to the "Cardinal case," Paulo Pereira Cristovao is also accused of having improperly seized 57 thousand euros that used for personal purposes. In instructory decision is said that the abundance of existing evidence in the record supports the facts narrated in the indictment.


http://www.rtp.pt/noticias/index.php?article=802547&tm=45&layout=158&visual=49

Careful DCI you are beginning to look rather desperate. That Cristovao is on trial impacts on Amaral how ? Probably the same as Halligen doing time for fraud does on the McCanns.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Carana

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral breach Portuguese secrecy laws?
« Reply #68 on: February 09, 2015, 11:26:26 AM »
Interesting article (from Jan 2014), reporting that 83 criminal investigations into violations of judicial secrecy were opened into cases to which judicial secrecy applied in 2011-2012. (The totality of cases under judicial secrecy during that period was 6,696).

Most of the violations concerned cases of drug trafficking (475 cases), child sex abuse (189) and domestic violence (102). Out of those, 49 were archived, 9 led to charges and 25 were still ongoing (at the time of the article).

The types of violations at "critical moments" were related to searches (15), judicial interrogations (9), "comunicados de imprensa" (press releases doesn't sound right, information published by the press?) (6), and "escutas" (listening - phone tapping? Other illicit means of interception?) (5). Violations at unspecified "other moments" (40) are also on the list.

http://www.rtp.pt/noticias/index.php?article=708687&tm=8&layout=121&visual=49

The nature of the cases of violation under investigation at critical moments makes sense of the need for secrecy in certain circumstances. I expect that there will be lessons learned in terms of the live media coverage of the recent hostage cases in Sydney and France, for example, and the tense situation over elite forces zooming in on the nutjob in southern France, where seemingly the police had to rely on the voluntary cooperation of the media. (I wonder where Sargento's case over allegedly tipping off the media over the presumed serial rapist saga is at?)

Amaral clearly did breach judicial secrecy on at least two occasions: disclosing information to the publishing industry prior to the secrecy being lifted, and his rant to his wife's friend who also happened to be a journalist (which got him booted off the case).

It's not clear whether he was also directly leaking to the media on other occasions, but the constant drip of half-baked leaks, nearly all designed to smear the McCanns and Murat, happened under his watch. One, about the crying episode, leaked under Rebelo, but it's not clear when the information was leaked - it could have been leaked earlier and kept for a rainy day, e.g, when the McCanns were in Brussels. It's quite possible that those drip leaks are now timed-out for criminal inquiry purposes... or were quietly dealt with internally.

IMO, although, as it happens, they couldn't be described as being at "critical" moments of the investigation (as in forewarning of a potential dawn raid), they nonetheless constituted a violation of personal rights including irrelevant personal information (e.g., Kate's diary), and a potential obstruction of justice in terms of presumed innocence and influence on public opinion prior to any potential trial involving a jury.

I'm not convinced that all of the "leaks" flew out of PJ windows for free, either... which raises a different issue.





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Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral breach Portuguese secrecy laws?
« Reply #69 on: February 09, 2015, 11:39:33 AM »
Not me fruit cake.

Cristoavo was Amarals heavy, till he was caught on the fiddle.  He was also involved in the Cipriano case.

That's nearly all those PJ involved in Madeliene's case been had for fraud and other crimes. Amaral being the worst!
Of course they are all innocent, unless called McCann.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral breach Portuguese secrecy laws?
« Reply #70 on: February 09, 2015, 11:52:27 AM »
Not me fruit cake.

Cristoavo was Amarals heavy, till he was caught on the fiddle.  He was also involved in the Cipriano case.

That's nearly all those PJ involved in Madeliene's case been had for fraud and other crimes. Amaral being the worst!
Of course they are all innocent, unless called McCann.

On the other hand, almost all the PIs employed by the McCanns have been officially investigated or imprisoned at some point. So where does that get us ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Eleanor

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral breach Portuguese secrecy laws?
« Reply #71 on: February 09, 2015, 11:55:08 AM »
If The Portuguese Judiciary don't pursue Amaral for breaching The Secrecy Laws then the whole thing will be a mockery.  Who is likely to get prosecuted in future if they don't?  Portugal might just as well give it up.  And then any idiot who works on a case can write a book based on insider knowledge.

Try that one for size.

Offline jassi

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral breach Portuguese secrecy laws?
« Reply #72 on: February 09, 2015, 12:01:24 PM »
If The Portuguese Judiciary don't pursue Amaral for breaching The Secrecy Laws then the whole thing will be a mockery.  Who is likely to get prosecuted in future if they don't?  Portugal might just as well give it up.  And then any idiot who works on a case can write a book based on insider knowledge.

Try that one for size.


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Offline faithlilly

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral breach Portuguese secrecy laws?
« Reply #73 on: February 09, 2015, 12:07:20 PM »
If The Portuguese Judiciary don't pursue Amaral for breaching The Secrecy Laws then the whole thing will be a mockery.  Who is likely to get prosecuted in future if they don't?  Portugal might just as well give it up.  And then any idiot who works on a case can write a book based on insider knowledge.

Try that one for size.

It's getting more apparent Eleanor that you supporters don't care what Amaral is found guilty of, just as long as he is found guilty of SOMETHING.

The Portuguese Judiciary have had almost seven years to bring a case against Amaral for breaching the secrecy laws and seem in no way interested in doing so and, to be honest, up until it became apparent that it was unlikely the McCanns were going to come out of the damages trial greatly enriched it didn't seem the supporters had much interest in the alleged breach either.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Eleanor

Re: Did Gonçalo Amaral breach Portuguese secrecy laws?
« Reply #74 on: February 09, 2015, 12:18:38 PM »

Is there any reason why any of us should care, one way or the other?

I care.  The Law is The Law, and should most certainly apply to those who are employed to uphold The Law.