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Offline Angelo222

Was the Madeleine book counterproductive ?
« on: January 08, 2015, 02:50:20 PM »
By their actions they have given Amaral and the public perception against them legs.  Far from damaging him they have raised him to a level which he could never previously have aspired to.  They themselves have helped spread the knowledge of the book and its contents worldwide and still they have the audicity to name and blame him.


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Offline Benice

Re: Was the Madeleine book counterproductive ?
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2015, 03:06:08 PM »
Quote from: Angelo222 on January 08, 2015, 02:50:20 PM
By their actions they have given Amaral and the public perception against them legs. Far from damaging him they have raised him to a level which he could never previously have aspired to. They themselves have helped spread the knowledge of the book and its contents worldwide and still they have the audicity to name and blame him.

They haven't had that effect on me  - nor anyone else I know.    In fact hardly any of the people I do know (and I know a lot)  follow the case and wouldn't have a clue who Amaral was if I asked them.

People who think half the country is up in arms one way or another over this case are deluding themselves IMO.

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Offline faithlilly

Re: Was the Madeleine book counterproductive ?
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2015, 03:15:36 PM »
Quote from: Benice on January 08, 2015, 03:06:08 PM
They haven't had that effect on me  - nor anyone else I know.    In fact hardly any of the people I do know (and I know a lot)  follow the case and wouldn't have a clue who Amaral was if I asked them.

People who think half the country is up in arms one way or another over this case are deluding themselves IMO.

That's two things we've agreed on in one day Benice  8)--))
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was the Madeleine book counterproductive ?
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2015, 06:15:53 PM »
Quote from: Angelo222 on January 08, 2015, 02:50:20 PM
By their actions they have given Amaral and the public perception against them legs.  Far from damaging him they have raised him to a level which he could never previously have aspired to.  They themselves have helped spread the knowledge of the book and its contents worldwide and still they have the audicity to name and blame him.

in reality only a few of the uk public have heard of the book......
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Was the Madeleine book counterproductive ?
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2015, 08:25:14 PM »
Quote from: Benice on January 08, 2015, 03:06:08 PM
They haven't had that effect on me  - nor anyone else I know.    In fact hardly any of the people I do know (and I know a lot)  follow the case and wouldn't have a clue who Amaral was if I asked them.

People who think half the country is up in arms one way or another over this case are deluding themselves IMO.

Most people in Portugal would never have known about Amaral if it hadn't been for the McCann's own litigations. In pursuing him they have not only elevated him in the eyes of the Portuguese public but they have also managed to damaged their own credibility both in Portugal and in the UK.  There must be times now when even they realise this and should the current litigation in Lisbon go against them then this can only get worse.
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Was the Madeleine book counterproductive ?
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2015, 08:42:45 PM »
Quote from: Angelo222 on January 08, 2015, 08:25:14 PM
Most people in Portugal would never have known about Amaral if it hadn't been for the McCann's own litigations. In pursuing him they have not only elevated him in the eyes of the Portuguese public but they have also managed to damaged their own credibility both in Portugal and in the UK.  There must be times now when even they realise this and should the current litigation in Lisbon go against them then this can only get worse.
I though Amaral was a best-selling author who frequently appeared on National TV to talk about the case and his book? 
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Was the Madeleine book counterproductive ?
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2015, 08:46:38 PM »
Quote from: Angelo222 on January 08, 2015, 08:25:14 PM
Most people in Portugal would never have known about Amaral if it hadn't been for the McCann's own litigations. In pursuing him they have not only elevated him in the eyes of the Portuguese public but they have also managed to damaged their own credibility both in Portugal and in the UK.  There must be times now when even they realise this and should the current litigation in Lisbon go against them then this can only get worse.

And boy will the need some reputation management then.

Pity CM seems to have jumped ship.
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Was the Madeleine book counterproductive ?
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2015, 08:51:24 PM »
The McCanns reputation in Portugal couldn't be worse (thanks to Amaral), the outcome of this case will make little difference to that.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Was the Madeleine book counterproductive ?
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2015, 10:22:08 PM »
Quote from: Alfred R Jones on January 08, 2015, 08:51:24 PM
The McCanns reputation in Portugal couldn't be worse (thanks to Amaral), the outcome of this case will make little difference to that.

As far as the libel case goes ... who can possibly predict what the outcome will be.

I feel that since the reopening of Madeleine's case under the imprimatur of the PJ and SY that there has been a subtle change in attitude and tone of foreign commentators ... I don't know if there has been a spin off to that in Portugal ... but that is the important case.
Should what happened to Madeleine be discovered by the current investigation ... reputations will be restored and reputations destroyed.
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Offline John

Re: Was the Madeleine book counterproductive ?
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2015, 02:43:12 PM »
I think both books served to keep the story in the public eye but for very different reasons.  I also think the Amaral book would not have been as widely read or disseminated had it not been for the attempt to ban it followed thereafter by the libel/damages trial.

I can appreciate the several reasons for publishing the Madeleine book but it was counterproductive to some extent as it also served to raise the profile of the McCann's antagonist, Gonçalo Amaral.
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A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Lyall

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Re: Was the Madeleine book counterproductive ?
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2015, 03:05:13 PM »
Quote from: John on February 05, 2015, 02:43:12 PM
I think both books served to keep the story in the public eye but for very different reasons.  I also think the Amaral book would not have been as widely read or disseminated had it not been for the attempt to ban it followed thereafter by the libel/damages trial.

I can appreciate the several reasons for publishing the Madeleine book but it was counterproductive to some extent as it also served to raise the profile of the McCann's antagonist, Gonçalo Amaral.

Which Madeleine book? The McCann one?
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ferryman

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Re: Was the Madeleine book counterproductive ?
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2015, 03:19:53 PM »
Quote from: Angelo222 on January 08, 2015, 08:25:14 PM
Most people in Portugal would never have known about Amaral if it hadn't been for the McCann's own litigations. In pursuing him they have not only elevated him in the eyes of the Portuguese public but they have also managed to damaged their own credibility both in Portugal and in the UK.  There must be times now when even they realise this and should the current litigation in Lisbon go against them then this can only get worse.

I suspect the publication in Portugal of Amaral's own book might tend to give the lie to that ...
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Offline John

Re: Was the Madeleine book counterproductive ?
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2015, 03:26:59 PM »
Quote from: Lyall on February 05, 2015, 03:05:13 PM
Which Madeleine book? The McCann one?

Yes, sorry, the one called 'Madeleine'.
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A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Lyall

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Re: Was the Madeleine book counterproductive ?
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2015, 03:47:42 PM »
Quote from: John on February 05, 2015, 03:26:59 PM
Yes, sorry, the one called 'Madeleine'.

Ok, I knew it was a daft question. I don't think it was counterproductive, but a book was three years late (though a 2008 book wouldn't have had the same approach/text as the 2011 one).
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stephen25000

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Re: Was the Madeleine book counterproductive ?
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2015, 03:49:11 PM »
Quote from: Alfred R Jones on January 08, 2015, 08:51:24 PM
The McCanns reputation in Portugal couldn't be worse (thanks to Amaral), the outcome of this case will make little difference to that.

The mccanns reputation in Portugal is due to their own stupidity, arrogance,  the pursuit of Amaral and the MONEY....
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