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Offline Brietta

Re: It wasn't the first time a burglar got in via a window at the resort!
« Reply #210 on: February 13, 2015, 02:28:25 PM »
Quote from: pathfinder73 on February 13, 2015, 02:13:50 PM
It would take 10 seconds to grab that child and get back out. It would take longer to open window and noisy shutters and risk leaving evidence. The raised shutters could be seen by anybody in the car park.

"It would take 10 seconds to grab that child and get back out." Absolutely correct and it seems to have worked out that way as far as the abductor was concerned.

However, he or she would be anxious not to be caught on the premises by an irate parent and the first thing that would have been arranged would have been an escape route.

That was why the window was opened and the shutter raised ... which adds very little time to the ten seconds it takes to grab a child ... watch Heri's video, and he was opening from outside and not using the conventional mechanism.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: It wasn't the first time a burglar got in via a window at the resort!
« Reply #211 on: February 13, 2015, 02:42:59 PM »

Kate May 4th.

At around 10pm, the interviewee went to check on the children. She went into the apartment by the side door, which was closed but not locked, as she said before. She noticed that the door to her children's bedroom was completely open, the window was also open, the shutters raised and the curtains open, while she was certain of having closed them all as she always did.

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Curtains open & not a breath of wind or a slamming door.

Kate was mistaken wasn't she.

Given her patchy recall it's quite possible then that she was also mistaken about the window & shutters, they weren't actually open.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: It wasn't the first time a burglar got in via a window at the resort!
« Reply #212 on: February 13, 2015, 02:43:49 PM »
Quote from: pathfinder73 on February 13, 2015, 02:13:50 PM
It would take 10 seconds to grab that child and get back out. It would take longer to open window and noisy shutters and risk leaving evidence. The raised shutters could be seen by anybody in the car park.

Not necessarily true about people seeing the window from the car park.  And no matter how short a time it would take there was always a danger of becoming trapped.
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: It wasn't the first time a burglar got in via a window at the resort!
« Reply #213 on: February 13, 2015, 02:52:19 PM »
Quote from: Eleanor on February 13, 2015, 02:43:49 PM
Not necessarily true about people seeing the window from the car park.  And no matter how short a time it would take there was always a danger of becoming trapped.

That wall is not high on the car park side. Easy to see the window from the car park. You couldn't miss it!

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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Eleanor

Re: It wasn't the first time a burglar got in via a window at the resort!
« Reply #214 on: February 13, 2015, 03:04:56 PM »
Quote from: pathfinder73 on February 13, 2015, 02:52:19 PM
That wall is not high on the car park side. Easy to see the window from the car park. You couldn't miss it!



In the dark when one is looking ahead to the right and away from a particularly dark corner?
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: It wasn't the first time a burglar got in via a window at the resort!
« Reply #215 on: February 13, 2015, 03:11:14 PM »
Quote from: Eleanor on February 13, 2015, 03:04:56 PM
In the dark when one is looking ahead to the right and away from a particularly dark corner?

Only a complete idiot would leave that window open for the world to see. Have they brought the village idiot in for questioning yet  *&*%£
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Offline Eleanor

Re: It wasn't the first time a burglar got in via a window at the resort!
« Reply #216 on: February 13, 2015, 03:15:33 PM »
Quote from: pathfinder73 on February 13, 2015, 03:11:14 PM
Only a complete idiot would leave that window open for the world to see. Have they brought the village idiot in for questioning yet  *&*%£

Is that the best you can do?
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: It wasn't the first time a burglar got in via a window at the resort!
« Reply #217 on: February 13, 2015, 03:18:53 PM »
Quote from: Eleanor on February 13, 2015, 03:15:33 PM
Is that the best you can do?

Nothing more needs to be said. That window could easily be seen from the car park.
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Offline Anna

Re: It wasn't the first time a burglar got in via a window at the resort!
« Reply #218 on: February 13, 2015, 03:25:12 PM »
Quote from: pathfinder73 on February 13, 2015, 03:18:53 PM
Nothing more needs to be said. That window could easily be seen from the car park.

Who do you think, would have been in that corner of the car park at that time of night? Was there witnesses who came forward, saying that they were there?
I think there was a grey car parked in front of that window too IIRC
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Offline Eleanor

Re: It wasn't the first time a burglar got in via a window at the resort!
« Reply #219 on: February 13, 2015, 03:25:34 PM »
Quote from: pathfinder73 on February 13, 2015, 03:18:53 PM
Nothing more needs to be said. That window could easily be seen from the car park.

Only if someone was making a conscious effort to look.  And why would they do that?
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: It wasn't the first time a burglar got in via a window at the resort!
« Reply #220 on: February 13, 2015, 04:54:44 PM »
Quote from: Eleanor on February 13, 2015, 03:25:34 PM
Only if someone was making a conscious effort to look.  And why would they do that?

Because they knew kids were left unattended in those apartments. What other reason do you need not to look when passing through the car park.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: It wasn't the first time a burglar got in via a window at the resort!
« Reply #221 on: February 13, 2015, 05:22:10 PM »
Quote from: pathfinder73 on February 13, 2015, 04:54:44 PM
Because they knew kids were left unattended in those apartments. What other reason do you need not to look when passing through the car park.

Oh, the temptation.  But never mind.  No one thought that a predator would be targeting small children.  Can you not see that?
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Offline Heriberto Janosch

Re: It wasn't the first time a burglar got in via a window at the resort!
« Reply #222 on: February 13, 2015, 06:35:33 PM »
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Offline Benice

Re: It wasn't the first time a burglar got in via a window at the resort!
« Reply #223 on: February 13, 2015, 06:47:06 PM »
Quote from: Heriberto Janosch on February 13, 2015, 06:35:33 PM
http://www.stopthemyths.info/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=5019&start=0

Thanks Heri - an excellent aerial picture there - showing how unlikely it was that anyone would notice the bedroom window - whilst crossing the car park to and from their apartments - especially in the dark.
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Offline Heriberto Janosch

Re: It wasn't the first time a burglar got in via a window at the resort!
« Reply #224 on: February 13, 2015, 06:49:54 PM »
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