It wasn't the first time a burglar got in via a window at the resort!

[Benice]

So what is the point of this thread ?

The clue is in the thread title.

[stephen25000]

The clue is in the thread title.

Indeed, the inference being it happened in the mccanns apartment as well.

So who are you trying to kid.

How many times  have we heard recently , it was a burglary gone wrong.

[jassi]

Indeed, the inference being it happened in the mccanns apartment as well.

So who are you trying to kid.

How many times  have we heard recently , it was a burglary gone wrong.

Just the latest 'idea' of what might have happened. No more likely to be the truth than any of the previous  ideas.

[Benice]

Indeed, the inference being it happened in the mccanns apartment as well.

So who are you trying to kid.

How many times  have we heard recently , it was a burglary gone wrong.

Your post referred to GM confirming that no burglary had taken place as no valuables had been taken.    My reply was to point out that NO-ONE has ever claimed otherwise and so I didn't see the point of your post.    I still don't.

[stephen25000]

Your post referred to GM confirming that no burglary had taken place as no valuables had been taken.    My reply was to point out that NO-ONE has ever claimed otherwise and so I didn't see the point of your post.    I still don't.

Surely SY are investigating a burglary gone wrong ?

and what is the point of this thread ?

[Alice Purjorick]

I believe this is one of those 'fake' threads started not by the OP but by John when separating a discussion that originated on another thread so perhaps you should address your complaint regarding the 'dozy' title  to him...?

I was in fact addressing it to the forum at large 

[Alice Purjorick]

Everything is a bit dozy and probably will be until we get something new to discuss ... back to (dozy topic) ...

Burglaries seem to be a huge problem in the Algarve. 

It seems burglars have no compunction about entering premises whether occupied or unoccupied. 
They were happening long before Madeleine vanished from her bed and are still going on today.

I think that possibly the main problem with them, apart from the fact they seem to occur with impunity, is the climate of denial which has allowed them to flourish.

When at last something really valuable was taken the urgency to get the case done and dusted must have been palpable.  I think Madeleine McCann and her parents may well have been the victims of ensuring the tourist trade emerged from this hiccup unscathed.

I went to stay at the Villa Kings in...

Although the Villa was nice we were broken into on the 11th day of our stay while we were asleep in bed they took all our money, left us with nothing, Cosmos did not even apologise for this and the patio was damaged as they must of tried to get in through that way but they ended up coming through the window of which my mother in law was asleep at the time and the neighbours Villa the Estelle was also robbed as they were asleep.

https://www.holidaywatchdog.com/35050-Gale-Kings_Villa-Holiday-Review.html


Receptionist Dawn Turp was 17 when burglars struck at her family’s holiday home in Praia da Luz twice in five months.

She saw one man from the back and got a good look at his getaway car, a silver Ford Ka.

In the first burglary in 2001 she saw a man leaving with stolen items in a towel.

Dawn, 29, said: “He was foreign looking, possibly Portuguese, with short dark hair.

"I didn’t get a look at his face but I will never forget the Ford Ka bubble car he got into.

"As soon as he got in, it roared off, so I think there must have been a driver.”

Five months later Dawn and her friend awoke to find phones, cash and credit cards had been taken from their bedroom.

Dawn said: “It could well have been the same people who burgled us before, they seemed to know the layout.”

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/473937/British-tourist-s-burglary-clue-that-could-help-Madeleine-McCann-mystery

Burglaries are huge problem anywhere people with a bit of folding stuff, jewellery, cameras and i-pads etc drop their guard.
Many years ago when the Piccadilly Line opened all the way to Heathrow there was a joke doing the rounds about there being more thieves than tourists on the trains.
The problem is not restricted to the Algarve although there are some who like to portray that it is.

[Brietta]

Burglaries are huge problem anywhere people with a bit of folding stuff, jewellery, cameras and i-pads etc drop their guard.
Many years ago when the Piccadilly Line opened all the way to Heathrow there was a joke doing the rounds about there being more thieves than tourists on the trains.
The problem is not restricted to the Algarve although there are some who like to portray that it is.

May I remind you of the title of the thread ... we happen to be discussing the Algarve not the Piccadilly line ... possibly because a little girl went missing in the Algarve either as a result of a burglary gone wrong or as a targeted abduction.  Is there a parallel with a child being taken from the Piccadilly line?  If so I must have missed any mention of it.

The constant attempt to introduce an element of racism into this particular debate is risible to say the least. 

Some years ago every other house in my street was burgled ... as far as I know that had absolutely nothing to do with Madeleine McCann's case or burglaries in the Algarve, which happen to be a matter of grave concern at the moment to the indigenous population whether native to the area or incomers, and tourists alike ... check it out, but I am sure you do not need to.

There is nothing to support any of the theories put forward in support of parental involvement in Madeleine's disappearance. 

There is a myriad of evidence to support a home invasion much of which has been put forward by posters on this forum. 
Burglary was common practice prior to 2007 and remains a common occurrence up to the present day ... and one of the common devices to rubbish that fact remains statements of the obvious "The problem is not restricted to the Algarve although there are some who like to portray that it is." 

That is the equivalent of saying every evening the sun sets somewhere in the world and it displays that anyone using that redundant argument has nothing else going for them.

Take another look at Paul Luckman's interview with Sky where he is in complete denial ... and note how foolish he is made to look in the process.

From 1:34    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcIwprGp7Ew

[Alice Purjorick]

May I remind you of the title of the thread ... we happen to be discussing the Algarve not the Piccadilly line ... possibly because a little girl went missing in the Algarve either as a result of a burglary gone wrong or as a targeted abduction.  Is there a parallel with a child being taken from the Piccadilly line?  If so I must have missed any mention of it.

The constant attempt to introduce an element of racism into this particular debate is risible to say the least. 

Some years ago every other house in my street was burgled ... as far as I know that had absolutely nothing to do with Madeleine McCann's case or burglaries in the Algarve, which happen to be a matter of grave concern at the moment to the indigenous population whether native to the area or incomers, and tourists alike ... check it out, but I am sure you do not need to.

There is nothing to support any of the theories put forward in support of parental involvement in Madeleine's disappearance. 

There is a myriad of evidence to support a home invasion much of which has been put forward by posters on this forum. 
Burglary was common practice prior to 2007 and remains a common occurrence up to the present day ... and one of the common devices to rubbish that fact remains statements of the obvious "The problem is not restricted to the Algarve although there are some who like to portray that it is." 

That is the equivalent of saying every evening the sun sets somewhere in the world and it displays that anyone using that redundant argument has nothing else going for them.

Take another look at Paul Luckman's interview with Sky where he is in complete denial ... and note how foolish he is made to look in the process.

From 1:34    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcIwprGp7Ew

The Algarve is a tourist resort, in common with other tourist resorts it has a problem with burglaries.
Some of the burglars gain access to properties, they are going to burgle, through the windows.
If I may say this is hardly an earth shattering revelation and is unlikely to get you on the short list for a Nobel Prize.

[Alfred R Jones]

The Algarve is a tourist resort, in common with other tourist resorts it has a problem with burglaries.
Some of the burglars gain access to properties, they are going to burgle, through the windows.
If I may say this is hardly an earth shattering revelation and is unlikely to get you on the short list for a Nobel Prize.

If I may interject here I doubt Brietta was aiming for a Nobel prize, or if indeed such a prize is now given to internet punters discussing the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, however surely it is a potentially relevant point when discussing the mysterious disappearance?  If not, why not, in your view?

[Admin]

Inner sanctum or not, let's try and be nice to each other.

Admin

[Anna]

Off topic posts will be deleted, so please try and stay with the topic where possible

[Carana]

I don't think it has been established whether burglaries in the vicinity were the result of entry via windows or not.

The GNR would have had the reports and those aren't in the PJ files.

ETA: And whether GNR reports would have been anything more than a statement for insurance purposes isn't clear, either.

[Alice Purjorick]

If I may interject here I doubt Brietta was aiming for a Nobel prize, or if indeed such a prize is now given to internet punters discussing the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, however surely it is a potentially relevant point when discussing the mysterious disappearance?  If not, why not, in your view?

Mainly because two different sorts of cops said there was no evidence of a break in I suppose.

[Alfred R Jones]

Mainly because two different sorts of cops said there was no evidence of a break in I suppose.

and no evidence of a break in = no break in right?  And you reject the sort of cops that consider Madeleine may have been killed or taken as the result of a burglary gone wrong too I guess...?