Author Topic: Documentaries & Articles for Discussion  (Read 249497 times)

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Offline Brietta

Re: Documentaries & Articles for Discussion
« Reply #495 on: November 10, 2015, 12:31:23 PM »
It seems to have escaped certain people's attention that the majority of files and leads in cases go nowhere.

Which is precisely what has happened in this case.

Some are discarded.

Some are used to build a case which follows the evidence.

Is your informant from the Policia Judiciaria or Scotland Yard ... since you seem to know so much negativity with such vehemence.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Documentaries & Articles for Discussion
« Reply #496 on: November 10, 2015, 12:32:42 PM »
... and that's it, is it?

I thought it would have made bigger and more widespread copy than that?  anything at all in the Portuguese press apart from this worthy? scoop.

There was something some time ago about a letter from an illustrious German detective who happened to be in Luz at the time in question ... that seemed to fizzle out a bit too ... or ... was it a dream??  LOL

Is that what?
I posted a link for interest.
It's up to you what you make of it or do with it.
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Offline jassi

Re: Documentaries & Articles for Discussion
« Reply #497 on: November 10, 2015, 12:46:34 PM »
Some are discarded.

Some are used to build a case which follows the evidence.

Is your informant from the Policia Judiciaria or Scotland Yard ... since you seem to know so much negativity with such vehemence.

Nothing is discarded, merely put aside in case it needs to be revisited.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Brietta

Re: Documentaries & Articles for Discussion
« Reply #498 on: November 10, 2015, 12:56:18 PM »
Is that what?
I posted a link for interest.
It's up to you what you make of it or do with it.

How useful it might have been to state that or whatever point you may have intended to highlight in your link which we have probably all read and made our own assessment of in any case.

That is what normally happens in discussion ... however as I have already said about this either on this thread or another ... what a pity the unattributable 'police spokesperson' or ' spokesperson close to the investigation' has yet again been allowed to raise his/her ugly head.

Ms Donn's journalistic skills or lack of led her to total misinterpretation of how gofundme works with her putting her name to prejudicial, untrue statements, serving only to display her appalling inability to research ... encourages me to wait for an official spokesperson to make a statement and competent journalists to report on it.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Documentaries & Articles for Discussion
« Reply #499 on: November 10, 2015, 01:06:59 PM »
Nothing is discarded, merely put aside in case it needs to be revisited.

Absolutely correct.

It is all evidence and would never be binned or put away in a file marked "not relevant to the inquiry" which happened formerly at a time it might very well have been entirely relevant.

There is so much information there, who is to say something has not been overlooked, or something discarded does not become relevant with the introduction and joining up of newer information making it relevant.

On the other hand there is information which is likely and information which is highly unlikely to be of use.  HOLMES and trained personnel will I am sure be capable of differentiating.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Documentaries & Articles for Discussion
« Reply #500 on: November 10, 2015, 01:08:01 PM »
How useful it might have been to state that or whatever point you may have intended to highlight in your link which we have probably all read and made our own assessment of in any case.

That is what normally happens in discussion ... however as I have already said about this either on this thread or another ... what a pity the unattributable 'police spokesperson' or ' spokesperson close to the investigation' has yet again been allowed to raise his/her ugly head.

Ms Donn's journalistic skills or lack of led her to total misinterpretation of how gofundme works with her putting her name to prejudicial, untrue statements, serving only to display her appalling inability to research ... encourages me to wait for an official spokesperson to make a statement and competent journalists to report on it.

Well you are part of of an "industry" that has kept going for 8 years in one unpleasantly aggressive format or another based on only one incontrovertible fact. Two if you stretch a point.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Documentaries & Articles for Discussion
« Reply #501 on: November 10, 2015, 01:17:33 PM »
Well you are part of of an "industry" that has kept going for 8 years in one unpleasantly aggressive format or another based on only one incontrovertible fact. Two if you stretch a point.

You really do appear to have a very one sided prejudicial view of posters who state the truth as is, do you not?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: Documentaries & Articles for Discussion
« Reply #502 on: November 10, 2015, 02:54:33 PM »
Your opinion only.  If a suspected perpetrator, known for breaking and entering and sex crimes against children was found who resembled Smithman, and the police believed he was in the right place at the right time, then do you not think a sighting of a man carrying a child that night, and an open window would be considered evidence that the police might use to try and build a case against him?

That would be a gift that exceeded their wildest dreams, wouldn't it? Anyway, let's imagine they find one. The first step is to make sure he hasn't got an innocent explanation or alibi. Then a line-up (or the modern equivalent) probably to see if the witnesses can pick him out. As there was no evidence on or around the window I would steer clear of it if I were them. It would simply allow an attack by the suspect's defense lawyer on the only witnesses to see the open window. As there's no evidence showing that anyone opened it or climbed in or out of it the window is not much use at all.

 
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« Reply #503 on: November 10, 2015, 04:33:20 PM »
That would be a gift that exceeded their wildest dreams, wouldn't it? Anyway, let's imagine they find one. The first step is to make sure he hasn't got an innocent explanation or alibi. Then a line-up (or the modern equivalent) probably to see if the witnesses can pick him out. As there was no evidence on or around the window I would steer clear of it if I were them. It would simply allow an attack by the suspect's defense lawyer on the only witnesses to see the open window. As there's no evidence showing that anyone opened it or climbed in or out of it the window is not much use at all.
All irrelevant to my point.  There is evidence that supports an abduction, whether you agree or not. 

stephen25000

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« Reply #504 on: November 10, 2015, 04:37:19 PM »
All irrelevant to my point.  There is evidence that supports an abduction, whether you agree or not.

Provide it.

Then we will see how other scenarios could use the same 'evidence'.

Offline faithlilly

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« Reply #505 on: November 10, 2015, 04:39:01 PM »
All irrelevant to my point.  There is evidence that supports an abduction, whether you agree or not.

What is it then ?

There was a window of opportunity- doesn't prove anything.

So what else ?
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Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #506 on: November 10, 2015, 04:39:57 PM »
Provide it.

Then we will see how other scenarios could use the same 'evidence'.

If the parents have been ruled out then what you are saying isn't true

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Documentaries & Articles for Discussion
« Reply #507 on: November 10, 2015, 04:41:55 PM »
lets keep this very simple
Maddie is missing
parents are not suspects
what are the possibilities

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Documentaries & Articles for Discussion
« Reply #508 on: November 10, 2015, 04:44:44 PM »
What is it then ?

There was a window of opportunity- doesn't prove anything.

So what else ?
I'm not repeating myself.  Check my posting history for the answer. 

stephen25000

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Re: Documentaries & Articles for Discussion
« Reply #509 on: November 10, 2015, 04:45:35 PM »
lets keep this very simple
Maddie is missing
parents are not suspects
what are the possibilities

Let's start with an unknown crime.

That is the starting point.