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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Madeleine McCann - why are people so obsessed?
« Reply #60 on: February 22, 2015, 07:11:54 PM »
Yeah, it's only Facebook so not important is it?  Yet for some it so very clearly is, hence the need for 1700+ people to work together obsessively for justice in private, like some secret army, with only it's Pledge of Allegiance on display.   I wonder what gains they have made in their fight for justice since their inception?

Is your objection to secret societies (armies) in general, secret societies associated with this case or just this specific secret society?
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Madeleine McCann - why are people so obsessed?
« Reply #61 on: February 22, 2015, 07:38:53 PM »
Is your objection to secret societies (armies) in general, secret societies associated with this case or just this specific secret society?
I have no objection to secret societies in general (though depending on what the nature of the secret society is about - obviously some are likely to be somewhat unsavoury), this one however caught my eye owing to the fact that it has pledged an oath of allegiance to a missing / dead child and gives the impression of doing Important Works in order to fulfil its pledge to Expose The Guilty*.  I wonder what successes it has achieved over the years?

*That should read "watch the Guilty face the Laws of the Land".

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Madeleine McCann - why are people so obsessed?
« Reply #62 on: February 22, 2015, 07:41:29 PM »
Join up and have a look at what goes on if you're wondering?
I'm not interested in making pledges or oaths, and if any mingling of bloods is involved I might faint.

Lyall

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Re: Madeleine McCann - why are people so obsessed?
« Reply #63 on: February 22, 2015, 07:43:39 PM »
I'm not interested in making pledges or oaths, and if any mingling of bloods is involved I might faint.

Ah go on 8)-))) You might be missing something really interesting.

(... you could tell us all about it then)

Offline Anna

Re: Madeleine McCann - why are people so obsessed?
« Reply #64 on: February 22, 2015, 07:50:23 PM »
Sorry Anna, is that all a Clarence quote?

No problem, Slarti,    Its as told by the author.

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2009/mar/29/missing-child-ben-needham
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline Brietta

Re: Madeleine McCann - why are people so obsessed?
« Reply #65 on: February 22, 2015, 07:51:23 PM »

Didn't take them long to leak that did it? The McCanns weren't taken to Portimao till Mid morning on the 4th.


Mind you Amaral was probably in a rush that day, for his arguido court appearance.

Madeleine was less than twenty four hours missing and all the big guns were already being pointed in the direction of her parents and their friends.

The notion that her parents were eventually made arguidos only because of the dogs' 'findings' is knocked into a cocked hat by the headline of the 7th May in the Diario de Noticias “Police clues points to Madeleine’s death,” with an inside page headline “Port authority already looking for Madeleine’s body.”
Once more 'police sources' were claimed.

Other newspapers were already running with 'discrepancies' in what the witnesses were saying.

The press assault on Madeleine McCann's parents was as unrelenting as it was vicious and who can forget the others joining in from the sidelines such as de Costa.

One has to ask why was this being done, one might say immediately Madeleine went missing, to these parents of a missing child? ... why the propaganda assault on them using every means to hand? ... and the final insult being to insinuate they were "uncooperative".   
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Madeleine McCann - why are people so obsessed?
« Reply #66 on: February 22, 2015, 07:51:34 PM »
Ah go on 8)-))) You might be missing something really interesting.

(... you could tell us all about it then)
Don't worry there's bound to be an undercover agent or two whose infilrated already and feeding back to McI5 8(0(*

Lyall

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Re: Madeleine McCann - why are people so obsessed?
« Reply #67 on: February 22, 2015, 08:01:04 PM »
Don't worry there's bound to be an undercover agent or two whose infilrated already and feeding back to McI5 8(0(*

I'd be disappointed if that wasn't the case 8)--))

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Madeleine McCann - why are people so obsessed?
« Reply #68 on: February 22, 2015, 08:03:57 PM »
I have no objection to secret societies in general (though depending on what the nature of the secret society is about - obviously some are likely to be somewhat unsavoury), this one however caught my eye owing to the fact that it has pledged an oath of allegiance to a missing / dead child and gives the impression of doing Important Works in order to fulfil its pledge to Expose The Guilty*.  I wonder what successes it has achieved over the years?

*That should read "watch the Guilty face the Laws of the Land".

The emboldened bit is extremely abnormal. The ensuing is fairly normal of people who have an over inflated sense of their own importance. I would imagine it has had no success but reports it would have been successful but for circumstances beyond it's control.
I don't believe secret societies have a place in modern society.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline misty

Re: Madeleine McCann - why are people so obsessed?
« Reply #69 on: February 22, 2015, 08:36:17 PM »
There can't be many people more obsessed by the case than Stephen Birch, given the amount of time, effort, risk & personal money he has spent.
Is he another misguided fool or will his efforts lead to the culmination of the investigation?

Offline Angelo222

Re: Madeleine McCann - why are people so obsessed?
« Reply #70 on: February 22, 2015, 08:40:30 PM »
There can't be many people more obsessed by the case than Stephen Birch, given the amount of time, effort, risk & personal money he has spent.
Is he another misguided fool or will his efforts lead to the culmination of the investigation?

or are his efforts merely a smokescreen intended to divert attention just like the Metedo conmen?
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De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Carana

Re: Madeleine McCann - why are people so obsessed?
« Reply #71 on: February 22, 2015, 08:43:43 PM »
There can't be many people more obsessed by the case than Stephen Birch, given the amount of time, effort, risk & personal money he has spent.
Is he another misguided fool or will his efforts lead to the culmination of the investigation?

Birch is a rare bird: one of the few people that most people on both sides of the McCann debate seem to agree about...

Offline misty

Re: Madeleine McCann - why are people so obsessed?
« Reply #72 on: February 22, 2015, 09:09:20 PM »
or are his efforts merely a smokescreen intended to divert attention just like the Metedo conmen?

Only if you believe someone else is responsible for paying this particular piper.
I find much of his research quite interesting, even though my own conclusions differ somewhat to his.

Lyall

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Re: Madeleine McCann - why are people so obsessed?
« Reply #73 on: February 22, 2015, 09:43:50 PM »
Only if you believe someone else is responsible for paying this particular piper.
I find much of his research quite interesting, even though my own conclusions differ somewhat to his.

He might have done some now (or he has perhaps at least read a particular blog), but when he first appeared it was quite obvious to members of the largest forum discussing the case that he was avoiding answering questions. I haven't changed my mind about the fella.

Offline Benice

Re: Madeleine McCann - why are people so obsessed?
« Reply #74 on: February 23, 2015, 09:25:01 AM »
It seems to me there are a myriad of reasons why people become 'obsessed'.    IMO as time has gone by - some people now use the case to bolster their own egos -  and some have latched on to it simply because they get enjoyment from the misfortune of others.    They have no real genuine interest in Madeleine at all IMO.

There are some people who do have genuine doubts and are willing to discuss them.   However, it is the obsessional behaviour of those who spend all their time slagging off the McCanns, insulting their 'supporters' and trying to stifle any debate which does not include slagging off the McCanns which I find so bizarre.   They have little interest in discussing the case.     It's almost as if the McCanns have slighted them personally in some way -  and they are never going to forgive or forget it.   I just don't get that.

My personal interest in the McCanns is minimal.   It's the appalling behaviour of some members of the public towards an innocent family and a missing little girl which I object to and which keeps me posting.   I would feel the same no matter who the victims were.

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal