Madeleine McCann - why are people so obsessed?

[Lyall]

I think it  is blatantly obvious the McCanns are not suspects. It doesn't matter what either police force say re the situation as the sceptics simply would not believe it.....an ostrich head in the sand mentality

aka democracy

[Mr Gray]

aka democracy

of course...but don't complain when the McCanns seek to use the laws of the said democracy to protect their reputations

[Angelo222]

if you want to believe that you are welcome to...but we saw last night how you have basic facts wrong...as far as I am concerned they are not suspects in maddie's disappearance..full stop

Possibly but they were up to their necks in what followed! 

Innocent is not a word I would use.

[Mr Gray]

Possibly but they were up to their necks in what followed! 

not sure what you mean by that

[Carana]

I don't know how this post was caught inside someone eles's but THIS is my section, apologies if this confused anyone.


Oh let me make this easier to those who wish to remove their heads from the sand.

The great believers tell us that The McCanns are not suspects...not suspects in what?  what is being investigated?  Well, as we are also told by the great believers SY and PJ are investigating the ABDUCTION THEORY. and it is only a theory!

So, let us deduce from this information that IN THE ABDUCTION THEORY, being investigated, the parents are not suspects.

The abduction Theory has yet to be verified and evidenced, in the absence of this..IT IS STILL A THEORY, like many others!


AND as a matter of fact DCI Redwood is not in charge of any 'investigation , in Portugal.

Now, what about other theories...has anyone in any Police force said they are not suspects?

For Dave:  to make it clearer...

So, they are NOT suspects in the abduction theory, but we don't know about how the Police feel about their involvement of other theories! 

Both the Met and the PT authorities have said that the McCanns are not suspects. I have already posted a PT statement to that effect.

[G-Unit]

I find it difficult to believe that anyone interested in this case has missed DCI Redwood's statement that neither the McCanns nor their friends are either suspects or persons of interest in this case!

What could be more clear? And who could be deemed a more reliable source than the police officer in charge of the investigation?

Personally I have only read press articles regarding the PJ stating they were not suspects - and also that the McCanns have met the Oporto team.    This is an extract from the Times article which also reported on the Efits - whether you regard it as 'reliable' or not is your prerogative.

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There was also an uncomfortable complication with Smith’s account. He had originally told the police that he had “recognised something” about the way Gerry McCann carried one of his children which reminded him of the man he had seen in Praia da Luz.

Smith has since stressed that he does not believe the man he saw was Gerry, and Scotland Yard do not consider this a possibility. Last week the McCanns were told officially by the Portuguese authorities that they are not suspects.
unquote

DCI Redwood did indeed say that the McCanns and their friends were not suspects or persons of interest. The remit of Operation Grange refers to a 'disappearance' and to an 'abduction', which were to be investigated 'as if they occurred in the UK'. In either case the first thing UK Police do is look at family and friends. Given DCI Redwood's  declaration can we assume that has been done? We haven't been told, so we don't know. I don't know the remit of The PJ enquiry, but it seems to differ from that of Operation Grange, and the PJ are the lead team. The McCanns were brought in at the end of a meeting - see below;
 
At the request of The Policia Judiciara, AC Mark Rowley and DCI Andy Redwood attended a meeting with senior officers on 17 October, in Lisbon, to discuss this significant development, and for a comprehensive briefing on the new lines of enquiry which, at this point, are separate to the lines of enquiry being followed by the MPS. At the conclusion of that meeting, the group were joined by Kate and Gerry McCann who were briefed on the plans to apply to reopen the investigation.
http://content.met.police.uk/News/Portuguese-authorities-reopen-investigation-into-Madeleine-McCann/1400020769305/1257246745756

As you don't provide a link to The Times article I can't comment on whether it's reliable or not, but given the track record of newspapers in this case I take all their stories with a large pinch of salt. I can't find any reports saying the PJ have declared that the McCann's are not suspects.

[Angelo222]

not sure what you mean by that

Remember Oakley and Metodo?  You will be telling us all next that the McCanns had such little control over their agents that they were not aware what they were up to and what they through the Madeleine Fund were paying handsomely for.

Have they ever made a public apology to the people intimidated and threatened by these criminal thugs?

[Brietta]

Both the Met and the PT authorities have said that the McCanns are not suspects. I have already posted a PT statement to that effect.

Don't know if this is the post to which you refer, Carana, I have another one but I thought the imprimatur on this one could be considered infallible by some.

"The Judiciary Police (PJ) reopened the investigation concerning the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and they guarantee that this time the parents of the girl who disappeared in Praia da Luz, Algarve, days before her fourth birthday, on May 3, 2007, are not suspects."
DN 25 October 2013
http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2013/10/pj-creates-new-team-to-investigate.html

[Benice]

DCI Redwood did indeed say that the McCanns and their friends were not suspects or persons of interest. The remit of Operation Grange refers to a 'disappearance' and to an 'abduction', which were to be investigated 'as if they occurred in the UK'. In either case the first thing UK Police do is look at family and friends. Given DCI Redwood's  declaration can we assume that has been done? We haven't been told, so we don't know. I don't know the remit of The PJ enquiry, but it seems to differ from that of Operation Grange, and the PJ are the lead team. The McCanns were brought in at the end of a meeting - see below;
 
At the request of The Policia Judiciara, AC Mark Rowley and DCI Andy Redwood attended a meeting with senior officers on 17 October, in Lisbon, to discuss this significant development, and for a comprehensive briefing on the new lines of enquiry which, at this point, are separate to the lines of enquiry being followed by the MPS. At the conclusion of that meeting, the group were joined by Kate and Gerry McCann who were briefed on the plans to apply to reopen the investigation.
http://content.met.police.uk/News/Portuguese-authorities-reopen-investigation-into-Madeleine-McCann/1400020769305/1257246745756

As you don't provide a link to The Times article I can't comment on whether it's reliable or not, but given the track record of newspapers in this case I take all their stories with a large pinch of salt. I can't find any reports saying the PJ have declared that the McCann's are not suspects.

IMO it's up to the individual to decide whether SY officers would simply take the McCanns' word for what they claimed had happened that night,  or whether as professional policemen they would follow the normal policing procedure of first and foremost investigating the family/friends  - in order to rule them in or out.

IMO common sense dictates that SY followed the normal procedure and as a result of their investigations they were able to rule the McCanns and their friends out of the enquiry.

I also believe SY credited the GBP with enough intelligence to work it out for themselves that the statement they made ruling the McCanns out of their enquiry could only have been made after SY had completely satisfied themselves that there was no reason for them to believe otherwise.

Anyone who actually believes SY simply took the McCanns word for what happened -  is being extremely unrealistic IMO.  That is not how professional police officers behave.

I agree that all newspaper reports should be taken with a large pinch of salt.

[pathfinder73]

Don't know if this is the post to which you refer, Carana, I have another one but I thought the imprimatur on this one could be considered infallible by some.

"The Judiciary Police (PJ) reopened the investigation concerning the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and they guarantee that this time the parents of the girl who disappeared in Praia da Luz, Algarve, days before her fourth birthday, on May 3, 2007, are not suspects."
DN 25 October 2013
http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2013/10/pj-creates-new-team-to-investigate.html

Don't make the same mistake twice. Innocent until proven guilty.

[Carana]

Don't know if this is the post to which you refer, Carana, I have another one but I thought the imprimatur on this one could be considered infallible by some.

"The Judiciary Police (PJ) reopened the investigation concerning the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and they guarantee that this time the parents of the girl who disappeared in Praia da Luz, Algarve, days before her fourth birthday, on May 3, 2007, are not suspects."
DN 25 October 2013
http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2013/10/pj-creates-new-team-to-investigate.html

Thanks, Brietta, that was one of them. There were others as well.

[Anna]

Thanks, Brietta, that was one of them. There were others as well.

Kate and Gerry McCann have been told for the first time by the Portuguese authorities that they are no longer suspects in their daughter Madeleine’s disappearance.


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccanns-parents-told-no-2592011

[faithlilly]

Kate and Gerry McCann have been told for the first time by the Portuguese authorities that they are no longer suspects in their daughter Madeleine’s disappearance.


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccanns-parents-told-no-2592011

I'm sorry Anna but that is a press release from a representative of the McCanns. Have you anything which has come directly from the PJ ?

[G-Unit]

Kate and Gerry McCann have been told for the first time by the Portuguese authorities that they are no longer suspects in their daughter Madeleine’s disappearance.


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccanns-parents-told-no-2592011

If it was in the Mirror it must be true.......................mustn't it? 

The same article says;
Mr Alves said yesterday: “I will be applying for the McCanns to become assistentes in this case but don’t know yet when.

Did that happen I wonder? It would have allowed the McCanns access to the information gathered by the Portugese investigation. If it didn't happen they know the same as we do - nothing. The Portugese told the Met that any leaks would result in the investigation being closed again;

They clearly stated that if the MPS provide any briefings or information on the work they are undertaking on our behalf, or if reporters cause any disruption to their work in Portugal activity will cease until that problem dissipates.
http://content.met.police.uk/News/Update-on-Madeleine-McCann-disappearance/1400024170613/1257246745756

[stephen25000]

If it was in the Mirror it must be true.......................mustn't it? 

The same article says;
Mr Alves said yesterday: “I will be applying for the McCanns to become assistentes in this case but don’t know yet when.

Did that happen I wonder? It would have allowed the McCanns access to the information gathered by the Portugese investigation. If it didn't happen they know the same as we do - nothing. The Portugese told the Met that any leaks would result in the investigation being closed again;

They clearly stated that if the MPS provide any briefings or information on the work they are undertaking on our behalf, or if reporters cause any disruption to their work in Portugal activity will cease until that problem dissipates.
http://content.met.police.uk/News/Update-on-Madeleine-McCann-disappearance/1400024170613/1257246745756

The old point arrives yet again.

Since it isn't known how Madeleine was removed from the apartment, how can potential suspects in a crime be declared as non-suspects ?

Let's hear a coherent reply to that.