Have most people given up on finding Madeleine alive?

[stephen25000]

This was Davel's reply

''so you accept Maddie may still be alive...that is a fact as for speculation of where she may be I have no idea''

My reply  would be the same - as I have no idea either.

He didn't refer to those two questions.


So you would concede she could be on Mars for all the evidence available  ?


Personally, I don't believe in pipe dreams. Just hard facts.

[stephen25000]

If she was abducted by paedophiles, then tragically she is most likely dead. 

In my opinion, and in the absence of her body being found, there is an outside chance of Madeleine having been sold to a family.  It is a very slim chance, but you cannot rule out the possibility.

I can.

I don't believe in fantasies.

How about you ?

[Jean-Pierre]

I can.

I don't believe in fantasies.

How about you ?

No problem, Stephen.  You are certain she is dead,

I am not certain.

I suggest we agree to differ on this.   

[Eleanor]

It's obvious she's dead, fact.

No, it isn't obvious, or a fact.  Anymore statements like this will be removed.

[faithlilly]

No, it isn't obvious, or a fact.  Anymore statements like this will be removed.

It may not be a fact but it is the most realistic outcome.

[Benice]

He didn't refer to those two questions.


So you would concede she could be on Mars for all the evidence available  ?


Personally, I don't believe in pipe dreams. Just hard facts.

Davel did refer to those two questions.   Here is your post to him asking them. 

Quote
So where exactly could she be ?

1. In the hands of a paedophile(s) ?

or

2. With a loving Family who are completely unaware of  the worldwide publicity for nearly 8 years, as are the people around them?
Unquote


Davel's response to that question was that he had no idea where she is.
 
Stop telling fibs.

[stephen25000]

Davel did refer to those two questions.   Here is your post to him asking them. 

Quote
So where exactly could she be ?

1. In the hands of a paedophile(s) ?

or

2. With a loving Family who are completely unaware of  the worldwide publicity for nearly 8 years, as are the people around them?
Unquote


Davel's response to that question was that he had no idea where she is.
 
Stop telling fibs.

Stop diverting benice.

Those are the clear alternatives, if she is alive.

dave could have opted for one or  the other.

Both can't be true.

and why can't he answer for himself ?

[Eleanor]

It may not be a fact but it is the most realistic outcome.

It isn't to me.

[Lace]

Stop diverting benice.

Those are the clear alternatives, if she is alive.

dave could have opted for one or  the other.

Both can't be true.

and why can't he answer for himself ?











As you are being ridiculous Stephen here's one for you-

You say Madeleine is dead,   then help the police find her body where is she?

Buried?

In the sea?

Come on you can opt for one of them.

[Benice]

Stop diverting benice.

Those are the clear alternatives, if she is alive.

dave could have opted for one or  the other.

Both can't be true.

and why can't he answer for himself ?

LOL you don't do irony do you Stephen. 

Davel did give you an answer.  You claimed that he didn't.  You were wrong.  The fact that you cannot admit it and apologise to him says it all IMO.

The posts are all there for everyone to see.

[Brietta]

Well, I haven't given up. Too many abducted children have been found after years and years.

Those are the ones that we know about, Eleanor, and there must be so many more running into the thousands.

Fascist regimes have been particularly adept at 'redistributing' children ... in recent history the Nazis did it, Fascist regimes in South America did it, Spain did it.

Who is to say there wasn't a residue of that attitude around Madeleine justified by the thinking that it was OK because they did have another two to ease the blow.

There is not a shred of evidence pointing to Madeleine McCann's death ... therefore it is her right as a human being to be considered as living and capable of being found until confirmation either way.

I remain astounded at the eagerness of some that a British child missing abroad should not be looked for on the word of a convicted perjurer.

[carlymichelle]

you do realise that even  if maddie is alive she would have no memory of what really did happen in portugal that night the human mind can only recall  basic things from about  4  or 5  at the most

[stephen25000]

LOL you don't do irony do you Stephen. 

Davel did give you an answer.  You claimed that he didn't.  You were wrong.  The fact that you cannot admit it and apologise to him says it all IMO.

The posts are all there for everyone to see.

I asked with reference to specific and the only logical alternatives.

Your defence of him says everything about him and you.

He did not refer to those.

So like him, you clearly also believe in fantasies.

[Brietta]

If she was abducted by paedophiles, then tragically she is most likely dead. 

In my opinion, and in the absence of her body being found, there is an outside chance of Madeleine having been sold to a family.  It is a very slim chance, but you cannot rule out the possibility.

Until all possible investigative avenues have been exhausted ... and testimony to the fact the initial investigation failed in that is the fact that Operation Grange found so many which had not been followed through ... the possibility that Madeleine McCann is alive cannot be ruled out.

[Benice]

Those are the ones that we know about, Eleanor, and there must be so many more running into the thousands.

Fascist regimes have been particularly adept at 'redistributing' children ... in recent history the Nazis did it, Fascist regimes in South America did it, Spain did it.

Who is to say there wasn't a residue of that attitude around Madeleine justified by the thinking that it was OK because they did have another two to ease the blow.

There is not a shred of evidence pointing to Madeleine McCann's death ... therefore it is her right as a human being to be considered as living and capable of being found until confirmation either way.

I remain astounded at the eagerness of some that a British child missing abroad should not be looked for on the word of a convicted perjurer.

And that's it in a nutshell IMO Brietta.   As you say ..'astounding' - not to mention totally incomprehensible imo.