Does publicly "doubting" the McCanns add to the distress of the McCann family?

[pathfinder73]

your words:

" They couldn't function they said but could delete phone calls and stop supermarket deliveries back home".  They couldn't function in the aftermath of Madeleine's disappearance, but you seem to be suggesting they were phoning the supermarket during this period.  So, what are you on about?

Kate cancelled the supermarket delivery back home on 4 May according to Mrs Kennedy. Phone log records were found to be deleted including phone calls on the night Maddy disappeared. I delete texts but never log records.

[Alfred R Jones]

Kate cancelled the supermarket delivery back home on 4 May according to Mrs Kennedy. Phone log records were found to be deleted including phone calls on the night Maddy disappeared. I delete texts but never log records.

Kate did not call the supermarket did she?  It was something she asked Mrs Kennedy to do for her, perhaps in response to her offer to help in any way she could.  As for the deleted phone calls, yawn - how many times is this going to be discussed?  Did these deleted calls make it into the Final Report as evidence of any wrong doing?

[Jean-Pierre]

Kate did not call the supermarket did she?  It was something she asked Mrs Kennedy to do for her, perhaps in response to her offer to help in any way she could.  As for the deleted phone calls, yawn - how many times is this going to be discussed?  Did these deleted calls make it into the Final Report as evidence of any wrong doing?

I think this is the usual "I would not have done it, so anyone who does must be dodgy"

I have had a mobile phone for 30 years and only ever delete messages when I run out of space.

Whilst 'er indoors' deletes everything as soon as she read it. 

Different strokes

[pathfinder73]

I think this is the usual "I would not have done it, so anyone who does must be dodgy"

I have had a mobile phone for 30 years and only ever delete messages when I run out of space.

Whilst 'er indoors' deletes everything as soon as she read it. 

Different strokes

We're not talking about text messages.

[Jean-Pierre]

We're not talking about text messages.

text messages, incoming and outgoing call records, email - what difference does it make.  Some people are meticulous about deleting, some are not.

And with telepcommunications, everything leaves a trace anyway. 

I also remeber a lotof discussion about the apparent lack of credit / debit cards, which fed another frenzy of suspicion - based on lack of ability to read a credit report.   

[faithlilly]

text messages, incoming and outgoing call records, email - what difference does it make.  Some people are meticulous about deleting, some are not.

And with telepcommunications, everything leaves a trace anyway. 

I also remeber a lotof discussion about the apparent lack of credit / debit cards, which fed another frenzy of suspicion - based on lack of ability to read a credit report.

Ill bet your wife wouldn't spend time deleting those things while the rest of your village looks for your first born.

[Lace]

Ill bet your wife wouldn't spend time deleting those things while the rest of your village looks for your first born.

Have you wondered that maybe they were clearing their phones ready for incoming related to Madeleine?

The way you say 'the rest of the village looks for your first born'   sounds as though you really don't understand what it is like for parents of a missing child.     

Most of the books I have read the parents are at home waiting for news,   they have initially looked for their child then reported the child missing.

The police really don't want parents in the search,  they don't know what they will find.

[pathfinder73]

text messages, incoming and outgoing call records, email - what difference does it make.  Some people are meticulous about deleting, some are not.

And with telepcommunications, everything leaves a trace anyway. 

I also remeber a lotof discussion about the apparent lack of credit / debit cards, which fed another frenzy of suspicion - based on lack of ability to read a credit report.

Many people would question why phone records were deleted after your child went missing because the police would want to investigate your phone records. Parents are first suspects in these cases. But they were tampering with the crime scene after the fact so it doesn't surprise many. They would definitely be investigating other mobiles they received after this discovery.

[Lace]

Many people would question why phone records were deleted after your child went missing because the police would want to investigate your phone records. Parents are first suspects in these cases. But they were tampering with the crime scene after the fact so it doesn't surprise many. They would definitely be investigating other mobiles they received after this discovery.

What do you mean when you say 'tampering with the crime scene' ?

[Benice]

Many people would question why phone records were deleted after your child went missing because the police would want to investigate your phone records. Parents are first suspects in these cases. But they were tampering with the crime scene after the fact so it doesn't surprise many. They would definitely be investigating other mobiles they received after this discovery.

You are using hindsight again PF.   It wasn't a crime scene until AFTER  it had been established that Madeleine was not in 5A. - and that could not be done without searching it first.    That's not 'tampering'- it's doing what any normal people would do in those circumstances.

[faithlilly]

Have you wondered that maybe they were clearing their phones ready for incoming related to Madeleine?

Hardly non-functioning then.

[faithlilly]

You are using hindsight again PF.   It wasn't a crime scene until AFTER  it had been established that Madeleine was not in 5A. - and that could not be done without searching it first.    That's not 'tampering'- it's doing what any normal people would do in those circumstances.

And Gerry tampering with the shutter ?

[Alfred R Jones]

Ill bet your wife wouldn't spend time deleting those things while the rest of your village looks for your first born.

Is this the Faithlilly who said only the other day it's not possible to know how anyone would act or react in any given set of circumstances?

[Brietta]

Many people would question why phone records were deleted after your child went missing because the police would want to investigate your phone records. Parents are first suspects in these cases. But they were tampering with the crime scene after the fact so it doesn't surprise many. They would definitely be investigating other mobiles they received after this discovery.

Yeah, absolutely ... the victims of the crime should have had the presence of mind to cordon off the area ... inform the border patrols, airport and port authorities to be on their guard ... then they should have contacted the local authorities with the instruction to delay refuse collection and leave all dumpsters in situ until they had been emptied and checked ... and while they were at it they should have delayed the infilling of all public works.

I see your point ... they could maybe even have conducted a door to door check, while phoning England to have Eddie and Keela sent over or maybe even have got efficient dogs from Germany if that had been quicker.

[Brietta]

You are using hindsight again PF.   It wasn't a crime scene until AFTER  it had been established that Madeleine was not in 5A. - and that could not be done without searching it first.    That's not 'tampering'- it's doing what any normal people would do in those circumstances.

It is exactly what the first responder GNR patrol did.