Was Kate McCanns "f.....g tosser" comment directed at Ricardo Paiva offensive?

[Angelo222]

Consider for a moment, would one consider the comment ,"f.....g tosser    f.....g tosser" published in Kate McCann's book and directed at a named Portuguese police officer Ricardo Paiva to be grossly abusive or offensive?

Why then is a similar comment directed at Kate McCann any different?   

Or is it a case of, one Law for them and another for the rest of us?   

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[Mr Gray]

Consider for a moment, would one consider the comment ,"f.....g tosser    f.....g tosser" published in Kate McCann's book and directed at a named Portuguese police officer Ricardo Paiva to be grossly abusive or offensive?

Why then is a similar comment directed at Kate McCann any different?   

Or is it a case of, one Law for them and another for the rest of us?   

Depends what you call grossly offensive as against being spot on, to the mark, accurate and truthful!

[Angelo222]

Depends what you call grossly offensive as against being spot on, to the mark, accurate and truthful!

We could have a vote on this very point.  Is Kate McCanns comment grossly abusive if not grossly insulting and offensive.  I most definitely know what my vote is. 

[Alfred R Jones]

Depends what you call grossly offensive as against being spot on, to the mark, accurate and truthful!

Consider for a moment, would one consider the comment ,"f.....g tosser    f.....g tosser" published in Kate McCann's book and directed at a named Portuguese police officer Ricardo Paiva to be grossly abusive or offensive?

Why then is a similar comment directed at Kate McCann any different?   

Or is it a case of, one Law for them and another for the rest of us?   

BL made thousands of unpleasant tweets, some of which were aimed at another twitter user who she repeatedly mocked as being fat, claimed falsely that she was a prostitute and rejoiced at the prospect of her losing her job - would you call any of that grossly offensive?

[Angelo222]

Depends what you call grossly offensive as against being spot on, to the mark, accurate and truthful!

Consider for a moment, would one consider the comment ,"f.....g tosser    f.....g tosser" published in Kate McCann's book and directed at a named Portuguese police officer Ricardo Paiva to be grossly abusive or offensive?

Why then is a similar comment directed at Kate McCann any different?   

Or is it a case of, one Law for them and another for the rest of us?   

I see none of the [ pr0s ] faithful have responded to my earlier post about Kate McCanns reference to a serving Portuguese police officer as a "f.....g tosser   f.....g tosser" in her book Madeleine?

Is this too not grossly offensive language??

[Alfred R Jones]

I see none of the [ pr0s ] faithful have responded to my earlier post about Kate McCanns reference to a serving Portuguese police officer as a "f.....g tosser   f.....g tosser" in her book Madeleine?

Is this too not grossly offensive language??

It is very rude yes, Angelo, nasty, horrible woman saying such offensive things about poor Ricardo, but does that make the campaign of BL et all thoroughly justified then, in your view?

[Angelo222]

It is very rude yes, Angelo, nasty, horrible woman saying such offensive things about poor Ricardo, but does that make the campaign of BL et al thoroughly justified then, in your view?

I asked you about Kate McCanns comment Alfie.  Why do you think she felt it necessary to make that comment, a comment which I am sure she was warned about.  Maybe it's Paiva who should be raising an action for defamation?

[ferryman]

I asked you about Kate McCanns comment Alfie.  Why do you think she felt it necessary to make that comment, a comment which I am sure she was warned about.  Maybe it's Paiva who should be raising an action for defamation?

I would argue that Kate was entitled to vent a little steam after the way Paivia turned on them.

Remember, in the very early days, he had invited the McCanns to dinner and their children played with Pavia's children .....

[DCI]

I asked you about Kate McCanns comment Alfie.  Why do you think she felt it necessary to make that comment, a comment which I am sure she was warned about.  Maybe it's Paiva who should be raising an action for defamation?

I see you don't give the reason Kate said he was a F T, who and why would anyone warn her when it was something she whispered under her breath?

Paiva proved himself to be a F T, flashing his truncheon at a woman over the net.

A COP who comforted Madeleine McCann’s parents is being probed for allegedly sending filthy photos to a woman

[Matthew Wyse]

I would argue that Kate was entitled to vent a little steam after the way Paivia turned on them.

Remember, in the very early days, he had invited the McCanns to dinner and their children played with Pavia's children .....

I would argue she had no right to use that language, what he does in his own time is his business.  If anyone is a f.....g tsser it is Kate McCann.  He was a detectve and did his job and called them out to which they reacted badly, their problem not his.

[Lace]

I would argue she had no right to use that language, what he does in his own time is his business.  If anyone is a f.....g tsser it is Kate McCann.  He was a detectve and did his job and called them out to which they reacted badly, their problem not his.

Kate McCann muttered it under her breath,  she did not say it to the detective.

So if you had been in Kate McCann's position and had been accused of hiding your child's body what would you have been thinking maybe -  'what a very nice detective',   I think not.

[Carana]

I would argue she had no right to use that language, what he does in his own time is his business.  If anyone is a f.....g tsser it is Kate McCann.  He was a detectve and did his job and called them out to which they reacted badly, their problem not his.

I suppose that she could have written that she was saying to herself "Ricardo, I'm really disappointed with you", as one does in an intimidating situation, when suddenly realising that someone you'd trusted was apparently trying to stitch you up for a crime that you hadn't committed and that no one had been looking for your missing child for ages and was unlikely to ever do so henceforth.

[John]

Kate McCann muttered it under her breath,  she did not say it to the detective.

So if you had been in Kate McCann's position and had been accused of hiding your child's body what would you have been thinking maybe -  'what a very nice detective',   I think not.

And that's where it should have stayed but that isn't Kate McCanns style is it?

[ferryman]

I suppose that she could have written that she was saying to herself "Ricardo, I'm really disappointed with you", as one does in an intimidating situation, when suddenly realising that someone you'd trusted was apparently trying to stitch you up for a crime that you hadn't committed and that no one had been looking for your missing child for ages and was unlikely to ever do so henceforth.

That's the nub ...

[DCI]

Kate McCann muttered it under her breath,  she did not say it to the detective.

So if you had been in Kate McCann's position and had been accused of hiding your child's body what would you have been thinking maybe -  'what a very nice detective',   I think not.

Her reason

"Each time a dog gave a signal, Ricardo would pause the video and inform me that blood had been found in this site and that the DNA from the sample matched Madeleine’s. He would stare at me intently and ask me to explain this.These were the only times I didn’t respond with a ‘No comment.’
Instead I said I couldn’t explain it, but neither could he. I remember feeling such disdain for Ricardo at this point. What was he doing? I thought. Just following orders? Under my breath, I found myself whispering,‘F*****g t****r, f*****g t****r.’ This quiet chant somehow kept me strong, kept me in control. This man did not deserve my respect. ‘F*****g t****r . . .’"