Was Kate McCanns "f.....g tosser" comment directed at Ricardo Paiva offensive?

[Lace]

And that's where it should have stayed but that isn't Kate McCanns style is it?

Sorry John,  you've lost me know,  where what should have stayed and what's Kate McCann's style?

[Lace]

Her reason

"Each time a dog gave a signal, Ricardo would pause the video and inform me that blood had been found in this site and that the DNA from the sample matched Madeleine’s. He would stare at me intently and ask me to explain this.These were the only times I didn’t respond with a ‘No comment.’
Instead I said I couldn’t explain it, but neither could he. I remember feeling such disdain for Ricardo at this point. What was he doing? I thought. Just following orders? Under my breath, I found myself whispering,‘F*****g t****r, f*****g t****r.’ This quiet chant somehow kept me strong, kept me in control. This man did not deserve my respect. ‘F*****g t****r . . .’".

Exactly DCI.

They don't seem to appreciate what Kate McCann was having to endure.   Telling her the DNA matched Madeleine's when they didn't,   letting her believe Madeleine was dead,   then accusing her of doing something to her daughter.

it must have been horrendous for her,   I think I would be shouting it out rather than saying it under my breath,  I'd want to scream at them.

[Brietta]

Exactly DCI.

They don't seem to appreciate what Kate McCann was having to endure.   Telling her the DNA matched Madeleine's when they didn't,   letting her believe Madeleine was dead,   then accusing her of doing something to her daughter.

it must have been horrendous for her,   I think I would be shouting it out rather than saying it under my breath,  I'd want to scream at them.

It was a form of mental torture designed to force a 'confession' ... not being a poor Portuguese National, and having a lawyer in attendance with her ... the plastic bag over the head technique was probably considered inappropriate.

[Alice Purjorick]

It was a form of mental torture designed to force a 'confession' ... not being a poor Portuguese National, and having a lawyer in attendance with her ... the plastic bag over the head technique was probably considered inappropriate.

Gosh we are becoming emotional.

[John]

Exactly DCI.

They don't seem to appreciate what Kate McCann was having to endure.   Telling her the DNA matched Madeleine's when they didn't,   letting her believe Madeleine was dead,   then accusing her of doing something to her daughter.

it must have been horrendous for her,   I think I would be shouting it out rather than saying it under my breath,  I'd want to scream at them.

Normal police procedure I'm afraid.  Always check out the parents and other family members and friends first.  Despite claims to the contrary, the McCanns weren't dealt with any more severely than any other parents of a child who disappeared under suspicious circumstances.  In fact, given Kate's refusal to cooperate and answer the simplest questions I am surprised they weren't detained.  I believe Amaral wanted to give them as much rope as possible and was secretly hoping they would flee...it nearly worked!

[Lace]

Normal police procedure I'm afraid.  Always check out the parents and other family members and friends first.  Despite claims to the contrary, the McCanns weren't dealt with any more severely than any other parents of a child who disappeared under suspicious circumstances.  In fact, given Kate's refusal to cooperate and answer the simplest questions I am surprised they weren't detained.  I believe Amaral wanted to give them as much rope as possible and was secretly hoping they would flee...it nearly worked!

Is it any wonder Kate refused to answer the questions [on her lawyers advice]   They were trying to frame them.

They couldn't detain them as they didn't have any evidence that they were guilty.

[Brietta]

Gosh we are becoming emotional.

I'm sorry ... yet again you have totally lost me ... you will have to explain your comment in greater detail.

[Alfred R Jones]

I asked you about Kate McCanns comment Alfie.  Why do you think she felt it necessary to make that comment, a comment which I am sure she was warned about.  Maybe it's Paiva who should be raising an action for defamation?

She was writing a book about how she felt at the time.  If she really DID mutter "f..king tosser" under her breath then her book is an accurate reflection of those feelings - and who can really blame her for the way she felt at the time.  Calling someone an effing tosser is not libellous, it is merely an insult so Paiva would not have had a leg to stand on with regard to any legal action.

[Mr Gray]

She was writing a book about how she felt at the time.  If she really DID mutter "f..king tosser" under her breath then her book is an accurate reflection of those feelings - and who can really blame her for the way she felt at the time.  Calling someone an effing tosser is not libellous, it is merely an insult so Paiva would not have had a leg to stand on with regard to any legal action.

as Pavia was telling lies..to a witness in order to force a confession...he certainly wouldn't have a leg to stand on....
would pavias action account to misconduct in the uk

[Anna]

as Pavia was telling lies..to a witness in order to force a confession...he certainly wouldn't have a leg to stand on....
would pavias action account to misconduct in the uk

I believe, Davel, that lying to witness/suspect to achieve a confession can count as coercion and any confession would be invalid…..In this country that is.

[faithlilly]

I believe, Davel, that lying to witness/suspect to achieve a confession can count as coercion and any confession would be invalid…..In this country that is.

I believe in Portugal a confession is not valid unless it is repeated in court Anna.

[Brietta]

I asked you about Kate McCanns comment Alfie.  Why do you think she felt it necessary to make that comment, a comment which I am sure she was warned about.  Maybe it's Paiva who should be raising an action for defamation?

LOL Angelo, if the allegation could be proven I doubt Ricardo Paiva would have a leg to stand on ... I've said it before and no doubt I'll say it again ... when Kate McCann said f****** t***** she was merely being prescient as a future internet encounter was to prove.

[John]

LOL Angelo, if the allegation could be proven I doubt Ricardo Paiva would have a leg to stand on ... I've said it before and no doubt I'll say it again ... when Kate McCann said f****** t***** she was merely being prescient as a future internet encounter was to prove.

I don't see it that way at all.  Ricardo was only doing his job and that job was to get to the truth of Madeleine's disappearance regardless of the consequences.  His job was to get close to the parents of the missing girl and report back any suspicions and any observations.  If Kate McCann thought he was socialising with them out of some sort of comradery then she was the naive one.

I have no doubt the publishers of Kate's book had a discussion with her regarding the inclusion of the offending comment just as I have no doubt she insisted it be included. 

[G-Unit]

Personally I don't use bad language, so for me it's unacceptable. Also, wasn't the book said to be for her children to read later in life? My children have never heard me use such language, I assume hers have. Was Ricardo the liaison officer? In England the job of the liaison officer is to inform the family but also to report back on what they say, how they behave, etc. They are part of the investigating team, not separate from it. Her lawyers should perhaps have made her aware of that fact.

[misty]

Exactly how offensive is Kate's comment compared to the ones hurled at football referees every weekend who are only "doing their job"?
Seriously.....some folk are being "oversensitive" out of sheer bloody-mindedness. I guess flogging page 129 must have been exhausted.