Author Topic: Was Kate McCanns "f.....g tosser" comment directed at Ricardo Paiva offensive?  (Read 137563 times)

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Offline G-Unit

You posted...using bad language is acceptable. My position is clear - never.......that's  what sets you apart...your use of the word never......most people accept that whilst bad language should not be used there are instances when the provocation is so great that it is understandable.

I very rarely heard it as a child, and accepted the general opinion that it was unacceptable. I found other ways of making my feelings known. Easy.

From an American point of view, but I agree (don't think they're fundamentalists);

What's Wrong With Swearing?
    
Swearing Imposes a Personal Penalty
It gives a bad impression
It makes you unpleasant to be with
It endangers your relationships
It's a tool for whiners and complainers
It reduces respect people have for you
It shows you don't have control
It's a sign of a bad attitude
It discloses a lack of character
It's immature
It reflects ignorance
It sets a bad example

Swearing is Bad for Society
It contributes to the decline of civility
It represents the dumbing down of America
It offends more people than you think
It makes others uncomfortable
It is disrespectful of others
It turns discussions into arguments
It can be a sign of hostility
It can lead to violence

Swearing corrupts the English language
It's abrasive, lazy language
It doesn't communicate clearly
It neglects more meaningful words
It lacks imagination
It has lost its effectiveness
http://www.cusscontrol.com/swearing.html
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Offline faithlilly

so you agree it's all about context

The post was merely illustrating the hypocrisy of the supporter's position.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

The post was merely illustrating the hypocrisy of the supporter's position.
might have been but it showed the importance of context...

Offline faithlilly

might have been but it showed the importance of context...

So are you saying that if Amaral had ACTUALLY sworn when asked about the McCanns due to its context that it would have been acceptable ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Matthew Wyse

So are you saying that if Amaral had ACTUALLY sworn when asked about the McCanns due to its context that it would have been acceptable ?

He probably called them f.....g tossers under his breath  @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(*
Most people suspect the truth but few are able to admit it.

Offline faithlilly

I cant understand all the fuss about Kate calling Riccardo Paiva a f******g t****r, when from the photo he sent of himself on the internet to some poor woman clearly shows that he was one.

Why isn't there any fuss about him sending an unsolicited nude photo of himself ?"waving" his truncheon around on the internet ?
Why is everyone so happy about that but picking on Kate for telling the truth? 



DOUBLE STANDARDS!

Oh I don't think it was 'unsolicited' sadie but looking at the sting in context it does show who desperate certain factions were to discredit Pavia after his 'dream' evidence at the libel hearing.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

So are you saying that if Amaral had ACTUALLY sworn when asked about the McCanns due to its context that it would have been acceptable ?

From his perspective ..yes of course... His life is being destroyed...its his own fault  but that's the position he is in

Offline Mr Gray

I very rarely heard it as a child, and accepted the general opinion that it was unacceptable. I found other ways of making my feelings known. Easy.

From an American point of view, but I agree (don't think they're fundamentalists);

What's Wrong With Swearing?
    
Swearing Imposes a Personal Penalty
It gives a bad impression
It makes you unpleasant to be with
It endangers your relationships
It's a tool for whiners and complainers
It reduces respect people have for you
It shows you don't have control
It's a sign of a bad attitude
It discloses a lack of character
It's immature
It reflects ignorance
It sets a bad example

Swearing is Bad for Society
It contributes to the decline of civility
It represents the dumbing down of America
It offends more people than you think
It makes others uncomfortable
It is disrespectful of others
It turns discussions into arguments
It can be a sign of hostility
It can lead to violence

Swearing corrupts the English language
It's abrasive, lazy language
It doesn't communicate clearly
It neglects more meaningful words
It lacks imagination
It has lost its effectiveness
http://www.cusscontrol.com/swearing.html

America is full of fundamentalists...looks like I hit the nail on the head

Offline Brietta

I very rarely heard it as a child, and accepted the general opinion that it was unacceptable. I found other ways of making my feelings known. Easy.

From an American point of view, but I agree (don't think they're fundamentalists);

What's Wrong With Swearing?
    
Swearing Imposes a Personal Penalty
It gives a bad impression
It makes you unpleasant to be with
It endangers your relationships
It's a tool for whiners and complainers
It reduces respect people have for you
It shows you don't have control
It's a sign of a bad attitude
It discloses a lack of character
It's immature
It reflects ignorance
It sets a bad example

Swearing is Bad for Society
It contributes to the decline of civility
It represents the dumbing down of America
It offends more people than you think
It makes others uncomfortable
It is disrespectful of others
It turns discussions into arguments
It can be a sign of hostility
It can lead to violence

Swearing corrupts the English language
It's abrasive, lazy language
It doesn't communicate clearly
It neglects more meaningful words
It lacks imagination
It has lost its effectiveness
http://www.cusscontrol.com/swearing.html

A British take on the matter ... "Never say a word you don't want God to hear" ... I think that might encompass far more than the F word and I think the Drs McCann have suffered more than most.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Mr Gray

Could it be related to the title of the thread? I find the words offensive full stop. No-one seems to be saying they're not offensive full stop. The question is quite clear, but the answers are anything but.

I don't find what Kate said in any way offensive...not in the slightest

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It would seem the only occasion bad language is offensive is if it is, wrongly as it turned out, directed at the McCanns. I remember the supporters beong apoplectic when they thought Amaral had said 'f**k the McCanns' after a libel hearing. Of course he hadn't but I seem to remember that context wasn't considered in that instance. If my livelihood had been wrenched from me, my refutation pulled through the mud and my assists frozen I think I could be forgiven for directing the odd expletive in the direction of my detractors.
LOL.  but you struggle to understand how anyone could mutter a swear word under their breath at a man who they felt was falsely accusing them of hiding the body of their little daughter and trying to pressure a confession out of them?  That's totally reasonable of you.  Not. 

Offline Miss Taken Identity

To Fornicate Under the Command of the King.. You all know the abbreviated version. I never swore in my childrens presence, but sometimes in adult company to repeat a joke or someones conversations I do swear. But not directed at anyone. which is gross bad manners.

I admire G for her stance with regards to her beliefs. I am perpelxed at the usual crew baying at her for doing so.

Kate made a point in her book, like she was giving them the 'bird' as it were... IMO She was going tpo have the last laugh...ppft
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Offline G-Unit

It seems no-one except me finds the comment offensive in itself. Everyone else seems to be saying that such comments can be offensive or justified depending on who says it and who they say it to.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

To Fornicate Under the Command of the King.. You all know the abbreviated version. I never swore in my childrens presence, but sometimes in adult company to repeat a joke or someones conversations I do swear. But not directed at anyone. which is gross bad manners.

I admire G for her stance with regards to her beliefs. I am perpelxed at the usual crew baying at her for doing so.

Kate made a point in her book, like she was giving them the 'bird' as it were... IMO She was going tpo have the last laugh...ppft

First bit me too.
Second bit I am not. They respond involuntarily to certain stimuli. It is probably akin to OCD.
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Offline jassi

First bit me too.
Second bit I am not. They respond involuntarily to certain stimuli. It is probably akin to OCD.

A compulsion to argue and disagree - Yes, I like that  ?{)(**
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